Cardinals being investigated by FBI for hacking into Astros network

[calsnowskier]

And here I had no idea baseballs could be deflated.

You learn something new every day.

 

[Clayton]

I'm fairly certain hacking is a federal offense, so it seems likely whoever was directly involved will see some jail time.

No doubt.

I wonder if we'll ever know what was actually taken from all of this, though. Are one GMs player evaluations that much better than others? Did they just get Astros trade speculation? You throw down a penalty to make sure it doesn't happen but it isnt the end of the world. But if this guy is GM God and everyone else data is garbage then there isnt a big enough penalty. So its hard to say how big of a deal this actually is

 

[Clayton]

Before that, maybe the Cards wouldn't mind sharing some of the information with the Red Sox. It would nice to have a prospect actually live up to the hype.

Whats funny is that Colby Rasmus was on the Cardinals and the Astros probably coveted that bum heavily

 

[element1286]

I think the fine has to start with 10 million, but that seems light. 50 million maybe.

 

[cerealboi]

I think the fine has to start with 10 million, but that seems light. 50 million maybe.

Send Wacha to the Red Sox as punishment. Better throw in Lance Lynn too for good measure.

 

[calsnowskier]

I am not sure what kind of penalties are even possible.

- Baseball does not have a cap, so you cant dock then cap space.
- Draft picks are not the same value as they are in other sports.
- A fine is just money. MLB teams are drowning in the shit.

I think the only options are MASSIVE draft pick penalties (like an entire year's class, or they loss their first 3 rounds for 5 years or something like that) AND a HUGE fine ($5M+). Not sure Houston deserves any competitive compensation, as it seems like a lot of this is due to their own incompetence.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

The Cardinals have been drafting better than any team in baseball and they already got hit with their best young player dying last year and their 2nd best getting traded to the Braves.

That is an unfortunate loss! Goddamn the Commissioner's Office for trading him to the Braves!

 

[Mondo Jay]

Brady refuses to cooperate in this investigation.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

Best Hackers in Baseball!

I do think "hacked" is a misnomer here.

When I think of hacking, I think of some computer geeks writing algorithems to break codes and infiltrate websites backdoors and shit.

*Hey, lets try to get into the Astro's system using that password that Jeff used to always use! HOLY SHIT, IT WORKED!!!*

That doesn't sound like "hacking" to me.

 

[SJ76]

Patriots fans seem to jump right in when they hear the word: Cheat.

Cracks me up

 

[SJ76]

10/18/2005
The Astros have now confirmed that this HR off Lidge was indeed because Pujols hacked into Lidge's brain and he never was the same.

 

[SJ76]

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There's a clown in your fanbase base that a mere mention of the 2002 superbowl and he starts crying about spygate (even though that relates to an entirely different incident). You're just going to have to put on your big boy pants and deal with it. This is how the sports message board rolls.

Pats got busted in 2007 opening day versus the Jets for Spygate. Turns out they had tapes galore dating back to 2000 actually.

In compliance with the May 8 deadline, Matt Walsh (fired by Pats later) sent eight separate videotapes to the league offices in advance of the meeting:

• One tape from the Miami Dolphins game on September 24, 2000
• Two tapes, one offensive signals and one defensive signals, from the Dolphins game on October 7, 2001
• One tape from the Buffalo Bills game on November 11, 2001
• One tape from the Cleveland Browns game on December 9, 2001
• Two tapes from the January 27, 2002, AFC Championship Game against the Pittsburgh Steelers
• One tape, from a "third camera", from the San Diego Chargers game on September 29, 2002

The bold above is the game before the Super Bowl with the Rams. And these tapes that were sent to the NFL??? All burned.

I know you have a hard time with this and denial is easy for a 12 year old, but it's all on the internet.

Fired video guys in 2002
Fired deflaters in 2015

 

[Nasty_Magician]

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Pats got busted in 2007 opening day versus the Jets for Spygate. Turns out they had tapes galore dating back to 2000 actually.

In compliance with the May 8 deadline, Matt Walsh (fired by Pats later) sent eight separate videotapes to the league offices in advance of the meeting:

• One tape from the Miami Dolphins game on September 24, 2000
• Two tapes, one offensive signals and one defensive signals, from the Dolphins game on October 7, 2001
• One tape from the Buffalo Bills game on November 11, 2001
• One tape from the Cleveland Browns game on December 9, 2001
• Two tapes from the January 27, 2002, AFC Championship Game against the Pittsburgh Steelers
• One tape, from a "third camera", from the San Diego Chargers game on September 29, 2002

The bold above is the game before the Super Bowl with the Rams. And these tapes that were sent to the NFL??? All burned.

I know you have a hard time with this and denial is easy for a 12 year old, but it's all on the internet.

Fired video guys in 2002
Fired deflaters in 2015

Seriously, dude, take it to another board.

 

[scoutyjones2]

Well MLB did kill one of their top prospects last fall and made it look like an accident. . . .

Wow...that is really a piece of shit thing to say...you do realize a young lady lost her life in that incident? She was the mother of a small boy too...

You're a piece of shit.

 

[SJ76]

Seriously, dude, take it to another board.

Just had to let the 12 year old about reality.

 

[Rock Strongo]

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Pats got busted in 2007 opening day versus the Jets for Spygate. Turns out they had tapes galore dating back to 2000 actually.

In compliance with the May 8 deadline, Matt Walsh (fired by Pats later) sent eight separate videotapes to the league offices in advance of the meeting:

• One tape from the Miami Dolphins game on September 24, 2000
• Two tapes, one offensive signals and one defensive signals, from the Dolphins game on October 7, 2001
• One tape from the Buffalo Bills game on November 11, 2001
• One tape from the Cleveland Browns game on December 9, 2001
• Two tapes from the January 27, 2002, AFC Championship Game against the Pittsburgh Steelers
• One tape, from a "third camera", from the San Diego Chargers game on September 29, 2002

The bold above is the game before the Super Bowl with the Rams. And these tapes that were sent to the NFL??? All burned.

I know you have a hard time with this and denial is easy for a 12 year old, but it's all on the internet.

Fired video guys in 2002
Fired deflaters in 2015

i think what destroys this is...well, remember matt walshs "evidence that would destroy the team?"

that never happened. you know what that was?

the tapes you mentioned. walsh quietly went away after the tape theory was debunked. he was never heard from again...

thats on the internet too.


he was a bitter ex-employee.

 

[SJ76]

i think what destroys this is...well, remember matt walshs "evidence that would destroy the team?"

that never happened. you know what that was?

the tapes you mentioned. walsh quietly went away after the tape theory was debunked. he was never heard from again...

thats on the internet too.


he was a bitter ex-employee.

besides the fact that Bellicheck got $250,000 fine and the Pats got $500,000. And lost a first round pick. Helluva fine for a debunked theory. It had been going on for years. Those are not my #s man, those are from the NFL.

I find it also weird that the NFL destroyed the tapes. If nothing bad was on them, why not come out and clear the air. But.. we will never know. Simple math and the fact that the Pats have history, make a lot of people skeptical.

 

[scoutyjones2]

See what happens?!

 

[Rock Strongo]

besides the fact that Bellicheck got $250,000 fine and the Pats got $500,000. And lost a first round pick. Helluva fine for a debunked theory. It had been going on for years. Those are not my #s man, those are from the NFL.

I find it also weird that the NFL destroyed the tapes. If nothing bad was on them, why not come out and clear the air. But.. we will never know. Simple math and the fact that the Pats have history, make a lot of people skeptical.

yeah, they werent fined for walsh. they were fined for taping from an illegal location.

again, bonjour...

as far as the burned tapes go...tighten your tin foil helmet mr stone. evidence has a shelf life in trial court and it also does in the private sector.

 

[SJ76]

yeah, they werent fined for walsh. they were fined for taping from an illegal location.

again, bonjour...

Yes fined $750,000 and loss of a 1st rounder for filming from an "illegal location"

Got it