Can a one loss Big 12 team get a shot at title?

[MarkOU]

Well if its any consolation 3 BIG XII teams have made the title game with 1 loss.

Nebraska in 2001
OU in 2003
OU in 2008

The stars have to align but its possible.

 

[WVUDAD]

Okie St? They were not undefeated...

Can you read the title of the thread, first off. Next, OSU had a stronger schedule strength than Alabama, but was viewed to have a worse loss. BB, you are dreaming if you do not think that a one loss SEC team trumps Baylor, undefeated or not. The BSC is based first and foremost on the name of the team, the level of their play and their SOS is secondary.

 

[WVUDAD]

Well if its any consolation 3 BIG XII teams have made the title game with 1 loss.

Nebraska in 2001
OU in 2003
OU in 2008

The stars have to align but its possible.

Notice the names of those teams????

 

[WVUDAD]

No shit, Baylor has the #90 ranked SOS at this point. If they go undefeated, they will leapfrog every one loss team in America.

Baylor has the 96th strongest SOS so far this year, and has yet to play a top 30 team.

 

[bbwvfan]

Baylor has the 96th strongest SOS so far this year, and has yet to play a top 30 team.

Exactly. Add to that fact Baylor started the season unranked.

Most of the experts are now questioning Stanford's current ranking. If Baylor wins out, corrections will be made. Just like last year when both ND and KSU jumped ahead of one lost teams as they kept winning…

Anyone who follows college football understands how it works.

 

[WVUDAD]

Exactly. Add to that fact Baylor started the season unranked.

Most of the experts are now questioning Stanford's current ranking. If Baylor wins out, corrections will be made. Just like last year when both ND and KSU jumped ahead of one lost teams as they kept winning…

Anyone who follows college football understands how it works.

BB, Look at the history of the BSC, they have twisted the polls the last week to get the big name team in year after year. Mark it down, unless every other top team has TWO losses, Baylor does NOT go to the "title" game, PERIOD.

 

[DCWV4life]

Can you read the title of the thread, first off. Next, OSU had a stronger schedule strength than Alabama, but was viewed to have a worse loss. BB, you are dreaming if you do not think that a one loss SEC team trumps Baylor, undefeated or not. The BSC is based first and foremost on the name of the team, the level of their play and their SOS is secondary.

Hey jackass your talking two different things one Baylor being jumped undefeated and two Okie St missing out as a one loss team.

 

[DCWV4life]

WVU has basically played Baylors last half schedule so far and is ranked 8th in SOS....if Baylor runs the table which will be hard to do they will play for the NC....If there are two undefeated teams from the power conf those two teams will play for NC regardless of the name of the school.

Where is will get interesting is sorting out the one loss teams and when they lose plus SOS.

 

[WVUDAD]

Hey jackass your talking two different things one Baylor being jumped undefeated and two Okie St missing out as a one loss team.

Name calling doesn't work, sorry your argument holds no water, but the third grade crap has no place here. First off, read the title of this thread. Next, give thought to what you are saying, rather than just going against what I say.

BCS controversies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

undefeated, but left out

It is all about getting the name teams in, DC, and Baylor is NOT a name team.

 

[WVUDAD]

Hey jackass your talking two different things one Baylor being jumped undefeated and two Okie St missing out as a one loss team.

Name calling doesn't work, sorry your argument holds no water, but the third grade crap has no place here. First off, read the title of this thread. Next, give thought to what you are saying, rather than just going against what I say.

BCS controversies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

undefeated, but left out

It is all about getting the name teams in, DC, and Baylor is NOT a name team.

 

[GoldRusher]

Just heard Bruce Feldman on Brando radio lil while ago, he agrees with Dad. When asked if Baylor could be left out even being undefeated his response "they will need a ton of help". I admit I was surprised at his answer, I figured they beat OU(ranked) OSU(ranked), Texas(will be ranked) Texas Tech ( should still be ranked) and it would be a no brainer but... Maybe not? Still not sure (other than Dads explanation which I believe DOES have SOME merit) what the arguement will be if it happens and they get screwed? How many ranked teams will tOSU beat this year? IMO they could get screwed as well, horrible.

 

[DCWV4life]

Name calling doesn't work, sorry your argument holds no water, but the third grade crap has no place here. First off, read the title of this thread. Next, give thought to what you are saying, rather than just going against what I say.

BCS controversies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

undefeated, but left out

It is all about getting the name teams in, DC, and Baylor is NOT a name team.

oh jackass its ok....you really haven't proven anything with you links....the title of the thread is a big 12 team so it does not have to be Baylor you have already said oklahoma could do it....then you turned it into Baylor would not get the bid if they were undefeated...the controversies link has nothing to support your claim that they wouldn't....go cry next to your bill stew pic and get over yourself.

 

[DCWV4life]

Just heard Bruce Feldman on Brando radio lil while ago, he agrees with Dad. When asked if Baylor could be left out even being undefeated his response "they will need a ton of help". I admit I was surprised at his answer, I figured they beat OU(ranked) OSU(ranked), Texas(will be ranked) Texas Tech ( should still be ranked) and it would be a no brainer but... Maybe not? Still not sure (other than Dads explanation which I believe DOES have SOME merit) what the arguement will be if it happens and they get screwed? How many ranked teams will tOSU beat this year? IMO they could get screwed as well, horrible.

If they are among 4 undefeated teams then yes there is a chance they could be left out, if they are the only or among the only two teams to be undefeted then they will not be left out....Dad says a one loss team will jump a undefeated Baylor team which would not happen with the computers.

 

[DCWV4life]

On your "teams undefeated" link only one of those teams was from a major conf.....The mighty SEC was left out for a Big 12 and Pac 10 team....wonder why they did not tweak it that year.

 

[7NationalChampionships]

To answer your question in a realistic fashion...No.

The Big 12 is a weaker conference this year, I'm not saying they are, but that's how the pollsters and the computers will look at it. The only shot we have is for Baylor to go undefeated and run the table. Besides, I think they're going to be more than 2 undefeated teams at the end of the season.

 

[DCWV4life]

To answer your question in a realistic fashion...No.

The Big 12 is a weaker conference this year, I'm not saying they are, but that's how the pollsters and the computers will look at it. The only shot we have is for Baylor to go undefeated and run the table. Besides, I think they're going to be more than 2 undefeated teams at the end of the season.

Bama and FSU?

 

[WVUDAD]

If they are among 4 undefeated teams then yes there is a chance they could be left out, if they are the only or among the only two teams to be undefeted then they will not be left out....Dad says a one loss team will jump a undefeated Baylor team which would not happen with the computers.

DC, there are FIVE one loss teams ahead of Baylor in the CPU polls now, they have already been jumped........... why do you keep saying the computers will not put a one loss team above an undefeated team when they already have......... If you think there is not name bias in the BSC, you are very much mistaken, the entire reason that the BSC, bowl alliance, etc was implemented was to ensure that 1984 never happened again.

 

[DCWV4life]

DC, there are FIVE one loss teams ahead of Baylor in the CPU polls now, they have already been jumped........... why do you keep saying the computers will not put a one loss team above an undefeated team when they already have......... If you think there is not name bias in the BSC, you are very much mistaken, the entire reason that the BSC, bowl alliance, etc was implemented was to ensure that 1984 never happened again.

Well because they can simulate the system and there has never been a one loss team jump any undefeated teams from the major confs at seasons end, those things change weekly...like you just said they jumped Baylor so last week Baylor was ahead of them....Baylors SOS will only improve, Stanford for example, they have a tough SOS now but theirs will get weaker as they play more games.

Wasn't 97 the last Co Champion? Michigan and someone?

 

[DCWV4life]

You keep talking about the CPU standings, why? The BCS standings are the only one that matters and there is only one 1-loss team ahead of Baylor in that...why because of their SOS

 

[WVUDAD]

You keep talking about the CPU standings, why? The BCS standings are the only one that matters and there is only one 1-loss team ahead of Baylor in that...why because of their SOS

read back through the thread, DC, YOU keep saying the CPUs will not put a one loss team above undefeated team, and Stanford did NOT jump Baylor, they were ahead of them all along.