Best Heisman Winner during the BCS Era Tournament - Quarterfinals - #1 Cam Newton vs #9 Tim Tebow

[4down20]

Most Outstanding Player.

Being the better player with a far inferior cast is most outstanding.

I'm not sure where you get the idea that Auburn doesn't recruit well from really. They had Cam and Nick Fairley on that team.

It's like the only thing that qualifies around here is NFL career. I just don't get that.

 

[The Q]

I'm not sure where you get the idea that Auburn doesn't recruit well from really. They had Cam and Nick Fairley on that team.

It's like the only thing that qualifies around here is NFL career. I just don't get that.

not even career, just guys who got drafted.

It's a decent enough measure of talent.

Not to mention the huge coaching edge that Florida had.

 

[4down20]

not even career, just guys who got drafted.

It's a decent enough measure of talent.

Not to mention the huge coaching edge that Florida had.

Less than 1% of college football players get drafted.

Even on Alabama it's only like 13% of the team.

Acting like the only players that are of note on a team are those who got drafted is exactly what I said - taking the easy way out and judging based on NFL career rather than what they did in college.

 

[iowajerms]

Do the defenses. Auburn's defense had guys like Nick Fairley on it.

Okay

2007 Florida

DE - Jermaine Cunningham - Round 2, 2010 NFL Draft
DT - Clint McMillan - undrafted
DT - Javier Estopiñan - undrafted - (Mike Pouncey, 1st round 2011 NFL Draft, was backup)
DE - Derrick Harvey - 1st Round, 2008 NFL Draft
MLB - Brandon Spikes - 2nd Round, 2010 NFL Draft
LB - Brandon Hicks - undrafted
CB - Joe Haden - 1st Round, 2010 NFL Draft
CB - Markihe Anderson - undrafted
FS - Major Wright - 3rd Round, 2010 NFL Draft
SS - Tony Joiner - undrafted

2010 Auburn

DE - Nosa Eguae - undrafted
DT - Zach Clayton - 7th Round, 2011 NFL Draft
DT - Nick Fairley - 1st Round, 2011 NFL Draft
DE - Antoine Carter - undrafted (Corey Lemonier and Dee Ford were backups)
MLB - Josh Bynes - undrafted
LB - Jessel Curry - undrafted
CB - Desmond Washington - undrafted
CB - Neiko Thorpe - undrafted
FS - Zac Etheridge - undrafted
SS - Mike McNeil - undrafted

 

[Sgt Brutus]

Being the best athlete does not mean best Heisman. Tebow is the embodiment of what you want in a player, especially your QB.

 

[The Q]

Okay

2007 Florida

DE - Jermaine Cunningham - Round 2, 2010 NFL Draft
DT - Clint McMillan - undrafted
DT - Javier Estopiñan - undrafted - (Mike Pouncey, 1st round 2011 NFL Draft, was backup)
DE - Derrick Harvey - 1st Round, 2008 NFL Draft
MLB - Brandon Spikes - 2nd Round, 2010 NFL Draft
LB - Brandon Hicks - undrafted
CB - Joe Haden - 1st Round, 2010 NFL Draft
CB - Markihe Anderson - undrafted
FS - Major Wright - 3rd Round, 2010 NFL Draft
SS - Tony Joiner - undrafted

2010 Auburn

DE - Nosa Eguae - undrafted
DT - Zach Clayton - 7th Round, 2011 NFL Draft
DT - Nick Fairley - 1st Round, 2011 NFL Draft
DE - Antoine Carter - undrafted (Corey Lemonier and Dee Ford were backups)
MLB - Josh Bynes - undrafted
LB - Jessel Curry - undrafted
CB - Desmond Washington - undrafted
CB - Neiko Thorpe - undrafted
FS - Zac Etheridge - undrafted
SS - Mike McNeil - undrafted

No surprise Florida had the big edge there too.

But Fairley was the best player of the bunch.

 

[The Q]

Being the best athlete does not mean best Heisman. Tebow is the embodiment of what you want in a player, especially your QB.

Being the Most Outstanding Player does.

no one was more outstanding than Newton.

And your last sentence has literally nothing to do with anything about this.

 

[4down20]

Okay

2007 Florida

DE - Jermaine Cunningham - Round 2, 2010 NFL Draft
DT - Clint McMillan - undrafted
DT - Javier Estopiñan - undrafted - (Mike Pouncey, 1st round 2011 NFL Draft, was backup)
DE - Derrick Harvey - 1st Round, 2008 NFL Draft
MLB - Brandon Spikes - 2nd Round, 2010 NFL Draft
LB - Brandon Hicks - undrafted
CB - Joe Haden - 1st Round, 2010 NFL Draft
CB - Markihe Anderson - undrafted
FS - Major Wright - 3rd Round, 2010 NFL Draft
SS - Tony Joiner - undrafted

2010 Auburn

DE - Nosa Eguae - undrafted
DT - Zach Clayton - 7th Round, 2011 NFL Draft
DT - Nick Fairley - 1st Round, 2011 NFL Draft
DE - Antoine Carter - undrafted (Corey Lemonier and Dee Ford were backups)
MLB - Josh Bynes - undrafted
LB - Jessel Curry - undrafted
CB - Desmond Washington - undrafted
CB - Neiko Thorpe - undrafted
FS - Zac Etheridge - undrafted
SS - Mike McNeil - undrafted

Florida looks like it has more talent, until you take into account almost all those players were very young. Auburns defense on the other hand was very experienced. Some of those guys didn't get drafted, but did sign as free agents - the same year as I recall.

 

[Sgt Brutus]

Being the Most Outstanding Player does.

no one was more outstanding than Newton.

And your last sentence has literally nothing to do with anything about this.

The Heisman Memorial Trophy, is awarded annually to the most outstanding player in college football in the United States whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity.

Winners epitomize great ability combined with diligence, perseverance, and hard work.[\QUOTE]

 

[The Q]

1) that wasn't what you said.

2) newton was cleared. so frankly bringing it up is just lame hating.

 

[4down20]

newton was cleared. so frankly bringing it up is just lame hating.

Not really true. The NCAA deemed it a loophole because it was claimed "Cam didn't know" what his dad was doing. They ended up writing a new rule over the whole thing.

There is no doubt his dad was shopping him around. And if you don't think someone at Auburn paid it, then I can only suggest doing research on Auburn, casino's, blank atm cards, track winnings and Bobby Lowder.

 

[iowajerms]

 

[iowajerms]

This still is a close one.

 

[iowajerms]

Any answer other than Cam is wrong.

As of right now, SportsHoopla disagrees. All Cam needs to do is tie to win the matchup..

 

[socaljim242]

Guy who goes to church vrs a guy whos dad got a church

 

[Wild Turkey]

As of right now, SportsHoopla disagrees. All Cam needs to do is tie to win the matchup..

Large number of butt hurt bammers voting....everyone knows.

 

[Deep Creek]

This one is actually tough for me. I think Newton was a more natural athlete and is harder to stop, but nobody put their heart into it like Tebow.

Yeah, but Newton is better at procuring laptops and funding for churches.

 

[iowajerms]

Tebow will face the winner of Palmer vs Winston matchup in the semifinals.
Newton will face the winner of White vs Leinart matchup in consolation round 2.