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Art Monk the latest player to sue the NFL and Riddell

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So... remember this?

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Why aren't all players wearing these?
 

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How do you post on the Niner board and not have a Steve Wallace concussion helmet picture?

On a related note, this is such bullshit that players from the 80s are suing the NFL for CTE. You can't retroactively sue for something that was harmful when no one knew it was harmful?

If 40 years from now we find out the stuff in car airbags causes cancer, can we all sue GM, Ford, Chrysler etc?
 

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How do you post on the Niner board and not have a Steve Wallace concussion helmet picture?

On a related note, this is such bullshit that players from the 80s are suing the NFL for CTE. You can't retroactively sue for something that was harmful when no one knew it was harmful?

If 40 years from now we find out the stuff in car airbags causes cancer, can we all sue GM, Ford, Chrysler etc?

Was gonna say the same exact thing.

Rep for being quicker.
 

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Man people these days are getting really good at this:

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WAAAAAAA!!! Gimme some money!
 

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By the way isn't one of the biggest reasons NFL players make truck loads of money because they're KNOWINGLY risking their health in playing this game?
 

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How much did the NFL know? That is the question. THINK: Cigarette company - They knew the poisonous chemicals they were putting in their cigs could be harmful. An abundant amount of research later proved it to be true and a lot of people piggy banked in on their affects.
 

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People have known that being pummelled in the head is bad for your health for Millenia. Just because there's a new name for it doesn't mean it's some great great finding.

Concussions are bad for you. Wow! I would've never guessed!

Also, what would could the NFL have done about it? It's not like they can prevent head injuries when people are playing football.
 

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People have known that being pummelled in the head is bad for your health for Millenia. Just because there's a new name for it doesn't mean it's some great great finding.

Concussions are bad for you. Wow! I would've never guessed!

Also, what would could the NFL have done about it? It's not like they can prevent head injuries when people are playing football.

I'm just playing devil's advocate. Don't know why the NFL is the only sport who has to defend their violent game. Could you imagine if Boxing had to do the same? Or do fighting permits save them from such frivolous lawsuits?
 

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How do you post on the Niner board and not have a Steve Wallace concussion helmet picture?

On a related note, this is such bullshit that players from the 80s are suing the NFL for CTE. You can't retroactively sue for something that was harmful when no one knew it was harmful?

If 40 years from now we find out the stuff in car airbags causes cancer, can we all sue GM, Ford, Chrysler etc?


Yes you can. Asbestos comes to mind. Also cars that had defects resulting in accidents that caused deaths and trama. (Firestone tires) No one knew about the issues before hand, but they sued and won because the companies "Should have known and tested for ..."


The lawyers will state that a football helmet company should have known and tested about concussions and problems with them because that is what the helmet is supposed to stop. And the Lawyers will state that football is a collision sport. Why did the NFL not use the best equipment and try to protect the players more to stop injuries that should have been prevent with better gear.


I fall more in line with the NFL in thinking you knew what you were getting into, but there are ways to sue.
 

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Well you CAN sue for anything. The question is whether or not the lawsuit has any merit to it, and Monk's doesn't. He just saw a way to try to get more money out of the NFL without actually having to do anything.

I used to like Art Monk a lot. Not any more.
 

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Man people these days are getting really good at this:

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WAAAAAAA!!! Gimme some money!

Ahh, so is that the president of Citigroup? Morgan Stanley, perhaps? Maybe it's the president of BofA or Bear Sterns. It is so hard to tell, they all look the same when their hands are out begging for money... ;-)
 

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Yes you can. Asbestos comes to mind. Also cars that had defects resulting in accidents that caused deaths and trama. (Firestone tires) No one knew about the issues before hand, but they sued and won because the companies "Should have known and tested for ..."


The lawyers will state that a football helmet company should have known and tested about concussions and problems with them because that is what the helmet is supposed to stop. And the Lawyers will state that football is a collision sport. Why did the NFL not use the best equipment and try to protect the players more to stop injuries that should have been prevent with better gear.


I fall more in line with the NFL in thinking you knew what you were getting into, but there are ways to sue.

This is not the same as people suing Ford because their Explorer would roll over and explode. There was a way to test for that at the time.

Suing today because modern technology has allowed us to learn about things from years ago is ridiculous. The technology didn't exist 30 years ago.

My grandfather died of cancer 10 years ago. Can I sue if there is a cure in 20 years?
 

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This is not the same as people suing Ford because their Explorer would roll over and explode. There was a way to test for that at the time.

Suing today because modern technology has allowed us to learn about things from years ago is ridiculous. The technology didn't exist 30 years ago.

My grandfather died of cancer 10 years ago. Can I sue if there is a cure in 20 years?

Wrong situation.
The helmet company is more like a car company who didn't test the seat belts and when the seat belts are actually used do very little to prevent injury. The reason they use the seat belts instead of others that actually work is due to negligence is a reason to sue.

Helmet companies have had better technology for years and don't use it. The NFL doesn't use it as well. Why not? Is it the cost? So they not care about the players? I got head injuries was it because the preventable by the use of better Helmets that were being held back? These are what the law suits are about.
 

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Wrong situation.
The helmet company is more like a car company who didn't test the seat belts and when the seat belts are actually used do very little to prevent injury. The reason they use the seat belts instead of others that actually work is due to negligence is a reason to sue.

Helmet companies have had better technology for years and don't use it. The NFL doesn't use it as well. Why not? Is it the cost? So they not care about the players? I got head injuries was it because the preventable by the use of better Helmets that were being held back? These are what the law suits are about.

Where is the evidence of the better technology not being used? Where is the PA in this? Shouldn't they be speaking up?

What did the medical world know about concussions 30 and 40 years ago that the NFL was ignoring?

Would the allegedly improved helmets prevent concussions?

Was the NFL actively hiding how dangerous concussions could be?

From what I've read the lawsuits aren't about the preventive measures that could have been taken as much as the information about the dangers of concussions being held back from the players.
 
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