and so it begins

[SoCalWizFan]

I disagree.There's enough blame to go around. Gruden/McVay, Jones, but KC shares in the blame as well. I'd give him the majority of personally.

All that said. I'm in favor of retaining KC despite whatever concerns I hold at this present time. The caveat being, I wanna see continued improvement in the red zone from KC and a win a minimum of 5 games.

Are you talking about winning 5 of the last 8 games? That could be tough & a lot of it has nothing to do w/ Cousins. Their starting LT just put them in a position where winning the next 4 games will be very difficult especially since most of them are against teams with a good pass rush. If Cousins doesn't have time to throw the ball in these situations it may be very tough. I prefer to focus on Cousins overall performance since again the QB is not the sole factor in determining wins and losses.

 

[cowboycolors]

but the organization should not be making decisions out of fear.

Scott has a number in his head ... a line in the sand that he is not going to cross.

completely agree at some point you just cant afford to pay because it does not make fiscal sense anymore going forward.

Hope SM has a solid plan in place with alternatives

Regards to you guys except when you play my Cowboys

 

[ehb5]

well what qb do we draft ? what FA do we go for ? what trade do we make ? there is Romo and cutler

No idea. Im not worrying about that at all right now. Last year people lost their shit if anybody insinuated we should go in a different direction. Right now Cousins is our QB and I hope he stays our QB for 10 years. To pull a play from a coaches playbook - Im just focused on Minnesota.

 

[Sportster 72]

I actually did point that out in a prior post. Its not that we dont have talented receivers, but for the most part, they are not RZ threats. Doctson may be, but he has got to get on the field. I also believe that play calling the does have a huge role in our red zone struggles. As some one pointed out above, there is no one person or group that is blame free for our issues here.

Exactly my point. The red zone issues are not based solely on one person. Coaching, QB and receivers can all be better.

 

[ehb5]

What timing an article on Cousins extension

The Kirk Cousins clock is ticking

I havent read it yet so dont get mad at me for whatever it says! (though I do like Bill Barnwell)

 

[ehb5]

Im not sure our WRs are bad in the Red Zone. You may be right but I think size is a very overrated skill in a WR and isnt necessary to win in the RZ. We know Reed is a monster there. And I dont think Crowder or DJax would be bad but maybe they have who knows. The weird thing is that we were good in the red zone last year with the same WRs, QB, and playcallers - so what changed?

 

[Sportster 72]

What changed is JReed isn't on pace to have 11 TDs again. The league catches up.

We have struggled against zone D this year and we have really struggled against zone in the red zone. Receivers are often covered, Cousins has forced the ball a couple of times. I don't want to put it all on the coaching staff but we either need different plays against the zone, receivers that find holes or a QB who sees the holes in the zone better. I know they have shown a lot of replays of our guys covered in the end zone. It just isn't one thing.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

What changed is JReed isn't on pace to have 11 TDs again. The league catches up.

We have struggled against zone D this year and we have really struggled against zone in the red zone. Receivers are often covered, Cousins has forced the ball a couple of times. I don't want to put it all on the coaching staff but we either need different plays against the zone, receivers that find holes or a QB who sees the holes in the zone better. I know they have shown a lot of replays of our guys covered in the end zone. It just isn't one thing.

Jordan Reed

Tough call in terms of Reed since he missed several games. His problems w/ scoring were mainly at the beginning of the season when the Redskins were having issues (& if Cousins hits his his WRs for TDS against Boys it doesn't matter in that game). More recently - when playing - Reed is rt there scoring wise.

We will see moving forward & it will be tough against good teams & w/o Williams.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Im not sure our WRs are bad in the Red Zone. You may be right but I think size is a very overrated skill in a WR and isnt necessary to win in the RZ. We know Reed is a monster there. And I dont think Crowder or DJax would be bad but maybe they have who knows. The weird thing is that we were good in the red zone last year with the same WRs, QB, and playcallers - so what changed?

I believe that the current receivers are fine. IMO the issue is not calling enough or the rt run plays in the red zone & perhaps calling the wrong type of pass plays at times (e.g. the fade). I believe that coaching more than personnel is the reason for these issues. Still time to fix all of this.

 

[gkekoa]

I don't think we use KC's mobility enough. We don't have the huge red zone threat so I would love to see more spread to it. Crosses and slants galore with a QB option if he sees a hole.

 

[Sportster 72]

Jordan Reed

Tough call in terms of Reed since he missed several games. His problems w/ scoring were mainly at the beginning of the season when the Redskins were having issues (& if Cousins hits his his WRs for TDS against Boys it doesn't matter in that game). More recently - when playing - Reed is rt there scoring wise.

We will see moving forward & it will be tough against good teams & w/o Williams.

Reed also missed two games last year so he now has 8 games and needs to average 1 TD pass per game to equal last years total. I believe the majority of his TD passes were in the 2nd half of the year which also coincided with Cousins most productive part of last year. As I stated earlier opposing teams scout and they attempt to take away your strong points. Most teams play zone inside the red zone because there is so much less field to cover. Clearly Cousins has been looking for Reed in the red zone and a couple of picks have come when he tried to force it into Reed. As I said in my earlier post there are things that all three elements can do, coaches, receivers and QB to improve their success rate there.

 

[skinsdad62]

What timing an article on Cousins extension

The Kirk Cousins clock is ticking

I havent read it yet so dont get mad at me for whatever it says! (though I do like Bill Barnwell)

in the end the author doesnt know as he stated he didnt

 

[Stymietee]

Exactly my point. The red zone issues are not based solely on one person. Coaching, QB and receivers can all be better.

Let me ask this very serious question man. Why do you believe that this team with it's HC and OC sending in plays have little or no issues moving the ball between the 20 yard lines then apparently lose the ability to reach that same level of competency? I have a theory, but before giving it, I'd rather hear from someone else. Thanks!

 

[ehb5]

in the end the author doesnt know as he stated he didnt

That's how I feel too. We've got 8 games (and hopefully more) left before we have to decide so I'm not worrying about it.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Reed also missed two games last year so he now has 8 games and needs to average 1 TD pass per game to equal last years total. I believe the majority of his TD passes were in the 2nd half of the year which also coincided with Cousins most productive part of last year. As I stated earlier opposing teams scout and they attempt to take away your strong points. Most teams play zone inside the red zone because there is so much less field to cover. Clearly Cousins has been looking for Reed in the red zone and a couple of picks have come when he tried to force it into Reed. As I said in my earlier post there are things that all three elements can do, coaches, receivers and QB to improve their success rate there.

Yep. The next month will really test what the Redskins are made of & how they respond to adversity. It is quite possible that either Reed continues to score or Cousins uses his other weapons (including RBs) to get the ball into the end zone. If the opposition focuses on Reed - great - get the ball to someone else - very doable.

 

[skinsdad62]

That's how I feel too. We've got 8 games (and hopefully more) left before we have to decide so I'm not worrying about it.

I don't think much will change

 

[Burnsie]

Let me ask this very serious question man. Why do you believe that this team with it's HC and OC sending in plays have little or no issues moving the ball between the 20 yard lines then apparently lose the ability to reach that same level of competency? I have a theory, but before giving it, I'd rather hear from someone else. Thanks!

I think this is the main problem the front office and coaches have with KC. They see a QB who is good at releasing the ball quickly to short and medium routes and specific receivers (Reed, Thompson, Crowder). But not very effective with the longer passes or going through all of his receivers. So certain personnel and their skillset, salary, etc are wasted. Plus they may view his numbers as purely based upon the wealth of targets he has to through to and the system he plays in. If they view it this way, why not pay someone else much cheaper to do the same job.

Top five QBs are supposed to produce even when they have a bunch of receivers down. KC has not shown he can carry this team or do well in these situations. Plus at times he makes poor decisions or inaccurate throws when receivers are wide open.

 

[gkekoa]

People talk about progressions all the time; however, decisions are frequently made on presnap reads...KC does this well. Progressions are a rare thing in the NFL because you don't have that long to sit there. KC has done well without his weapons. I think a lot of you are unrealistic.

 

[ehb5]

I don't think much will change

Maybe not but I don't feel like arguing over what we should do all year lol. I'm just gonna watch and enjoy the season.

 

[skinsdad62]

Maybe not but I don't feel like arguing over what we should do all year lol. I'm just gonna watch and enjoy the season.

KC is what he is , the question is , is there better

we can draft a guy in round 2 or 3 and see if he is better in time