All-Time Best Players vs. All-Time Second Best Players at their Position Teams

[Omar 382]

Defense is at a premium for catchers, Piazza was below average defensively. He was a great stick, but at C, like SS, defense must be factored at least equally, if not more

No it shouldn't. Would you rather have Ray Schalk or Mike Piazza?

 

[Omar 382]

Defense is at a premium for catchers, Piazza was below average defensively. He was a great stick, but at C, like SS, defense must be factored at least equally, if not more

So would you put Fisk, Carter, Berra, Joe Torre, and Pudge ahead of Piazza?

Player Slash line wOBA wRC+ WAR7
Mike Piazza .308/.377/.545 .390 140 43.1
Carlton Fisk .269/.341/.457 .354 117 37.5
Gary Carter .262/.345/.439 .342 116 48.2
Yogi Berra .285/.348/.482 .370 124 37.0
Joe Torre .297/.365/.452 .364 129 37.2

Let's not forget that wOBA is context-neutral, so Piazza was given no benefit for hitting in LA. If you really value defense at the catcher position because your alcoholic Little League coach told you so, hey, power to you. But I'll gladly take Piazza

 

[UK Cowboy]

So would you put Fisk, Carter, Berra, Joe Torre, and Pudge ahead of Piazza?

Player Slash line wOBA wRC+ WAR7
Mike Piazza .308/.377/.545 .390 140 43.1
Carlton Fisk .269/.341/.457 .354 117 37.5
Gary Carter .262/.345/.439 .342 116 48.2
Yogi Berra .285/.348/.482 .370 124 37.0
Joe Torre .297/.365/.452 .364 129 37.2

Let's not forget that wOBA is context-neutral, so Piazza was given no benefit for hitting in LA. If you really value defense at the catcher position because your alcoholic Little League coach told you so, hey, power to you. But I'll gladly take Piazza

Not Torre, but the rest, yeah, along with Pudge. Campy and Munson would round out top 10 IMO

 

[Omar 382]

Not Torre, but the rest, yeah, along with Pudge. Campy and Munson would round out top 10 IMO

your call