a possible 20 or 24-team FBS Premiership conference

[BigDGarciaFan]

suppose a FBS Super Conference were to be created. will it work? could it replace the AP Top 25, replace most of the big Bowl games, etc?

here are the teams i think could be part of that new conference

USC
UCLA
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Nebraska
Notre Dame
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Miami
Florida State
Penn State
Clemson
LSU
Michigan
Ohio State
Oklahoma State
Arkansas
Oregon
Washington
BYU
Iowa

 

[Fitbud]

suppose a FBS Super Conference were to be created. will it work? could it replace the AP Top 25, replace most of the big Bowl games, etc?

here are the teams i think could be part of that new conference

USC
UCLA
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Nebraska
Notre Dame
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Miami
Florida State
Penn State
Clemson
LSU
Michigan
Ohio State
Oklahoma State
Arkansas
Oregon
Washington
BYU
Iowa

I wouldn't be against something like this. Have the pre season top 25 or thirty play in a division of their own and crown a champion that way. Everyone else can play in a lesser division for all the other bowls.

 

[foster4prez]

suppose a FBS Super Conference were to be created. will it work? could it replace the AP Top 25, replace most of the big Bowl games, etc?

here are the teams i think could be part of that new conference

USC
UCLA
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Nebraska
Notre Dame
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Miami
Florida State
Penn State
Clemson
LSU
Michigan
Ohio State
Oklahoma State
Arkansas
Oregon
Washington
BYU
Iowa

Five or six of these teams have absolutely zero shot at making the cut in a "super conference"
Five or six more are borderline at best.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

suppose a FBS Super Conference were to be created. will it work? could it replace the AP Top 25, replace most of the big Bowl games, etc?

here are the teams i think could be part of that new conference

USC
UCLA
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Nebraska
Notre Dame
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Miami
Florida State
Penn State
Clemson
LSU
Michigan
Ohio State
Oklahoma State
Arkansas
Oregon
Washington
BYU
Iowa

No, this won't work. SEC just added the 2 best teams from the Big 12, so you are only including 1 future Big 12 team, and 9 SEC teams? ACC only getting 3? Yeah, they won't go for that, lol. And how do you include Nebraska and leave out Wisconsin? You been living under a rock for awhile or something? And BYU? Why? And no Arizona schools? No Mich St? I think Indiana's doing well lately would have them not liking this. No Stanford? No Utah? But you include Iowa and Arkansas? Arkansas? Seriously? Not to mention, just as an individual school, Minnesota has invested a ton into a new outdoor Stadium, a new coach, new practice facilities, their most recent non-covid season had them go 11-2, no way UMn would be ok with being left out. Now the thing is, UMn is not an independent like ND, they are a part of the B1G, and as a whole the B1G is raking in more money than any other conference via research dollars and ranks well with football revenue and tv contracts and such. No way they leave their conference mates out to hang like that, same with the SEC and probably the Pac and the ACC as well, and obviously the Big 12 that is basically being totally written off by this.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

suppose a FBS Super Conference were to be created. will it work? could it replace the AP Top 25, replace most of the big Bowl games, etc?

here are the teams i think could be part of that new conference

USC
UCLA
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Nebraska
Notre Dame
Alabama
Auburn
Georgia
Florida
Miami
Florida State
Penn State
Clemson
LSU
Michigan
Ohio State
Oklahoma State
Arkansas
Oregon
Washington
BYU
Iowa

What has BYU done to warrant a slot above Utah?

 

[BigDGarciaFan]

No, this won't work. SEC just added the 2 best teams from the Big 12, so you are only including 1 future Big 12 team, and 9 SEC teams? ACC only getting 3? Yeah, they won't go for that, lol. And how do you include Nebraska and leave out Wisconsin? You been living under a rock for awhile or something? And BYU? Why? And no Arizona schools? No Mich St? I think Indiana's doing well lately would have them not liking this. No Stanford? No Utah? But you include Iowa and Arkansas? Arkansas? Seriously? Not to mention, just as an individual school, Minnesota has invested a ton into a new outdoor Stadium, a new coach, new practice facilities, their most recent non-covid season had them go 11-2, no way UMn would be ok with being left out. Now the thing is, UMn is not an independent like ND, they are a part of the B1G, and as a whole the B1G is raking in more money than any other conference via research dollars and ranks well with football revenue and tv contracts and such. No way they leave their conference mates out to hang like that, same with the SEC and probably the Pac and the ACC as well, and obviously the Big 12 that is basically being totally written off by this.

BYU won a national title(1984), and Indiana have a very little college football history(very few bowl appearences) since basketball there is bigger. i wanted to add Michigan St and Wisconsin, but it is what it is. Nebraska and Arkansas have successful football histories despite their poor success as of late.

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

BYU won a national title(1984), and Indiana have a very little college football history(very few bowl appearences) since basketball there is bigger. i wanted to add Michigan St and Wisconsin, but it is what it is. Nebraska and Arkansas have successful football histories despite their poor success as of late.

BYU isn't a horrible pick as Mormonism is one of the fastest growing religions out there, but otherwise, it's been over 30 years since they won their Natl Title and have only had 2 Top Ten finishes since then, and zero Top 25 finishes since 2011. Arkansas has never finished higher than #3 in the polls and has only 2 Top Ten finishes in the last 40 years, and only 1 Top 25 ranking since 2009. Nebraska's only a little better with 6 Top Tens since their last Title, but only once did they finish better than 19th since 2002, and it was only 14th, with ZERO Top 25 finishes since 2012.

Compare this to Wisconsin who has had 8 Top Ten finishes and 13 Top 20 finishes since the early 80s with 3 Top 11 finishes in just the last 5 years, and Mich St who has 6 Top 15's since 2010. And even Minnesota, sure they only have 3 Top 20s since 1999, but the first 2 got the Admin to pony up the cash first for a new outdoor stadium, then for a Practice Facility, and then they ponied up for the hottest coach available at the time, if not for awhile?


So it's about trajectory. Where are programs headed? Nebraska has been on the decline, and even the hiring of their new coach hasn't helped. Arkansas has also been on the decline and the addition of Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC will only further push Arkansas down into the SEC cellar.

Of those 3, BYU is the only one who seems to have hope to do well in the future.

I haven't mentioned Indiana, but they've been trying to improve their football, just that being in the very competitive B1G conf makes it very tough, but it seems they've found the right coach for the job. And combined with what I said about the Gophers, MSU's and Wisconsin's trajectories, you have to remember that they are B1G programs, no way the B1G will abandon any of it's schools. Just won't happen.

So all this discussion of who would get into this 24 team thing is a waste, because it's never happening.

And why 24? How does that work out at the end of the year? Six 4 team pods where the winners and 2 at larges play off? Or 3 pods of 8 teams with 3 winners and 1 at large playoff? More likely IF something like this happened, and that's a huge IF, it would be 32 teams which would allow you to add Wisc, MSN, Mn & IU as well as Iowa St & Cincy, two programs who seem to have good trajectory, along with 2 of the other Texas teams in the Big 12, but my not being able to name who those 2 teams would be just goes to show the main problem with this idea. No way you could narrow down to 32 teams. It would be hard enough to narrow it down to 64. Because once a school is in the top level/group, they are going to fight hard to stay there.

 

[bocomo007]

could have it like professional soccer leagues in england with the bottom two relegated to the lower division and the top two of the lower division promoted each year

could have several leagues of around 30 teams, playing only in-league opponents except for maybe two games

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

could have it like professional soccer leagues in england with the bottom two relegated to the lower division and the top two of the lower division promoted each year

could have several leagues of around 30 teams, playing only in-league opponents except for maybe two games

Never going to happen. Too much money involved. Too many schools already in would get left out.

 

[bocomo007]

from the wiki article on it:​

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Promotion and relegation rules for the top eight levels[edit]​

Approximate areas for the current four-division level 7 (Step 3), from 2018 to 2019 onwards.[5]

1. Premier League (level 1, 20 teams): The bottom three teams are relegated.
2. English Football League Championship (level 2, 24 teams): Top two automatically promoted; next four compete in the play-offs, with the winner gaining the third promotion spot. The bottom three are relegated.
3. English Football League One (level 3, 24 teams): Top two are automatically promoted; next four compete in play-offs, with the winner gaining the third promotion spot. The bottom four are relegated.
4. English Football League Two (level 4, 24 teams): Top three teams are automatically promoted; next four compete in play-offs, with the winner gaining the fourth promotion spot. The bottom two are relegated.
5. National League (level 5, 24 teams): The champions are promoted; next six compete in play-offs, with the winner gaining the second promotion spot. The bottom four are relegated to either North or South division as appropriate.

 

[bocomo007]

Never going to happen. Too much money involved. Too many schools already in would get left out.

just thinking out loud about some cool ideas

 

[fredsdeadfriend]

just thinking out loud about some cool ideas

Understandable. I've tried to figure out who the best 32 teams would be to start it out as well, despite the fact it's never going to happen.

Better chance of something with 64 teams. Although that would only work if the Big 12 fails to recover from losing Texas and Oklahoma.


Most likely to happen is an expansion to 8 teams, 5 P5 Conf Champs and 3 more, with each of the P5 conferences expanding to 16 teams eventually as schools realize being a part of a big conf is the only way to get in on the cfp action and money.