Game Thread: 9/27 South Eliminated @ North Eliminated

[Stokes1931]

So far, Giants have as many hits (and more runs) through two innings than they did last night for the whole game.

 

[Stokes1931]

The collapse that led to the Yankees’ most miserable season in 30 years

As one player put it, “What could go wrong, went wrong.”

theathletic.com

Not sure where this goes, but this article could have been written about the Giants, who spent $92 million less than the Yankees on payroll this season.

Injuries. Check.

Too old. Check.

Not athletic. Check.

Poor Defense. Check.

Major players severely underperform. Check Check Check

 

[Stokes1931]

Manaea pitching like he wants to opt out and wants to get PAID.

Where was THIS all season? Is he now motivated? Was he mismanaged?

 

[Stokes1931]

Manaea is at 96 pitches through 6 innings. And he's going out for the 7th?

Edit: and sure enough, Manaea gives up a leadoff homer in the 7th.

There was no reason to send him out to start the 7th. The bully is rested.

Ah, 'tis a wasted season anyway. Have him throw a 140 pitch CG. Why not?

 

[calsnowskier]

The collapse that led to the Yankees’ most miserable season in 30 years

As one player put it, “What could go wrong, went wrong.”

theathletic.com

Not sure where this goes, but this article could have been written about the Giants, who spent $92 million less than the Yankees on payroll this season.

Injuries. Check.

Too old. Check.

Not athletic. Check.

Poor Defense. Check.

Major players severely underperform. Check Check Check

Padres, Cards, Yanks, Sox, Giants…

All teams that have had incredibly bad seasons that have really angered their fan bases. I have no idea if there is any connection or if there any kind of “story” there, but I have noticed a lot of similar beat stories written about all 5 teams.

 

[Stokes1931]

Padres, Cards, Yanks, Sox, Giants…

All teams that have had incredibly bad seasons that have really angered their fan bases. I have no idea if there is any connection or if there any kind of “story” there, but I have noticed a lot of similar beat stories written about all 5 teams.

I haven't read much about the Cards in this vein. When we were in St. Louis, I talked to several of their fans. They just shrugged and said this crappy season was just an aberration and that the team would be good next season. Not much drama, though it was the midwest. There's a full blown rebellion happening in San Diego, New York, and Boston. All is calm in Baghdad by the Bay....

 

[Stokes1931]

The Giants have three steals tonight. Who ARE those guys?!?

Oh, that's right, the guys who absolutely cannot hit with RISP. Now I remember! They DO look familiar.

 

[sf1giantfan]

The odds of the Giants losing tonight has just increased this inning

 

[sf1giantfan]

Bailey has now broken his own record of throwing errors this season.

 

[calsnowskier]

The Pads about to get their FIRST extra inning win of the season on September 27...

Gawd Dayum, this team sucks.

 

[calsnowskier]

No pride.

 

[Stokes1931]

This may be the most Giantsy loss of the season.

Good pitching (until Brebbia)

Awful hitting

Three errors leading to 4 of the 5 SD runs.

I'm OK with it. Let the kids play. Let Bailey learn the hard way, so that he'll be better next year.

As for Brebbia.........

 

[tzill]

This may be the most Giantsy loss of the season.

Good pitching (until Brebbia)

Awful hitting

Three errors leading to 4 of the 5 SD runs.

I'm OK with it. Let the kids play. Let Bailey learn the hard way, so that he'll be better next year.

As for Brebbia.........

exactly.

Phuking ginger. He's gotta go.

 

[LHG]

exactly.

Phuking ginger. He's gotta go.

I would guess that you'll get your wish. Might mean one of Alexander or Junis are brought back (personally, I'd be okay with Junis but am fine with Alexander walking).

 

[tzill]

I would guess that you'll get your wish. Might mean one of Alexander or Junis are brought back (personally, I'd be okay with Junis but am fine with Alexander walking).

I think JJ will go FA along with Manaea.

Alex I'd expect back.

My guess for 2024

Pederson -- gone
Forto -- opts out
Craw -- retires
Manea -- opts out
Strip -- opts in at $12.5M
Wood -- gone
Cobb -- option picked up at $10M
JJ -- gone
Brebbia -- gone
Alexander -- Resigned to $2M

Total savings from 2023 payroll: $82.75M

Total player contracts left for 2024: $87.5 (8 players)
Arb guess: $33M (6 players)
Min contracts $16M (23 players)

TOTAL BUDGET AS OF NOW: $136.5M

Assuming $200M budget, which I think they're going to have to spend to field a team people want to see, that's 2-3 big difference makers they should be getting. Bring me Ohtani, Snell, and Bellinger

 

[tzill]

2024 roster in my world

C - Bailey, Bart, Sabol
IF - Wade, Tyro, Lucy, Schmitt, Wilmer, Fitz, JDD,
OF - Yaz, Meech, Slates, Belli, Sabol, Matos, Ramos
D - Ohtani
SP - Webb, Snell, Cobb, Harry, Winn, Beck, Strip, Hjelle, Teng
BP - Doval, Taylor, Tyler, Alex, Walker, Jax

 

[calsnowskier]

I can’t imagine Ohtani signing with us without making promises to him that just wouldn’t make sense for a team to make.

When he first came out here, he said (I think it was from him, it was reported at least) that he didn’t want to go to the M’s because he didn’t want to follow in Suzuki’s footsteps. He wanted to blaze his own trail and make his own legend. This was also why he went with one of the tier B organization instead of the Spanks.

So why would he want to sign with a team that has 3 championships in the last 15 years? A team that is linked to the 2 (arguably) greatest players in the history of the game? A team that has more HOFers than ANY other org? A team that, arguably, has the second highest profile of all MLB teams (and inarguably top 5)?

And a team that has a very questionable ownership group/FO at the moment.

When he can just move down the road to a ready-made team that, while has won a lot recently, has only claimed the brass ring once (in a bastardized season) in the last 30+ years? A team that has a high profile, but has a higher profile for bringing in different faces to the game.

Granted, MAYBE aligning himself with Robinson may be akin to his feelings about getting aligned with Suzuki in Seattle. That is a legit argument for why he may not be interested in staying in LA. But being the piece that almost guarantees a championship for a storied franchise that has been rather championship-free for so long could be a legacy builder he just can’t resist.

Or, if he doesn’t have a strong tie to staying on the West coast, maybe going to Cleveland and building a legacy there would have draw for him. I would see them having AT LEAST as much pull for his services as the Giants. Probably more.

Ohtani ain’t coming here.

 

[Stokes1931]

I can’t imagine Ohtani signing with us without making promises to him that just wouldn’t make sense for a team to make.

When he first came out here, he said (I think it was from him, it was reported at least) that he didn’t want to go to the M’s because he didn’t want to follow in Suzuki’s footsteps. He wanted to blaze his own trail and make his own legend. This was also why he went with one of the tier B organization instead of the Spanks.

So why would he want to sign with a team that has 3 championships in the last 15 years? A team that is linked to the 2 (arguably) greatest players in the history of the game? A team that has more HOFers than ANY other org? A team that, arguably, has the second highest profile of all MLB teams (and inarguably top 5)?

And a team that has a very questionable ownership group/FO at the moment.

When he can just move down the road to a ready-made team that, while has won a lot recently, has only claimed the brass ring once (in a bastardized season) in the last 30+ years? A team that has a high profile, but has a higher profile for bringing in different faces to the game.

Granted, MAYBE aligning himself with Robinson may be akin to his feelings about getting aligned with Suzuki in Seattle. That is a legit argument for why he may not be interested in staying in LA. But being the piece that almost guarantees a championship for a storied franchise that has been rather championship-free for so long could be a legacy builder he just can’t resist.

Or, if he doesn’t have a strong tie to staying on the West coast, maybe going to Cleveland and building a legacy there would have draw for him. I would see them having AT LEAST as much pull for his services as the Giants. Probably more.

Ohtani ain’t coming here.

What if we FZ reminds him of the message board on the Hoop? That's a sure selling point!

 

[calsnowskier]

What if we FZ reminds him of the message board on the Hoop? That's a sure selling point!

I was assuming his membership here would be one of the promises made to him to entice him to sign…

 

[filosofy29]

I was assuming his membership here would be one of the promises made to him to entice him to sign…

Some of your dues will actually go to him. He’ll get paid $600,000,100 from the giants FO and this board.