9/26 GDT Slytherin @ NL West Champs

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91 pitches through 7, and a five run lead...... I'd pull him.

A good day's work

Hand it to the pen

 

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The Anti-Timmy.

Well that's what's confusing about his recent struggles.

I remember when Timmy first came up on those horrible Giants teams. He was basically the only spark on that team, while Cain was routinely getting Cained.

Didn't matter that the team was out of contention..Timmy then competed with stuff and heart. That's why I personally give him a lot of rope. He showed he was a team-win guy even when the team was bad. A perfect transition from the Bonds years.

 

[gp956]

Well that's what's confusing about his recent struggles.

I remember when Timmy first came up on those horrible Giants teams. He was basically the only spark on that team, while Cain was routinely getting Cained.

Didn't matter that the team was out of contention..Timmy then competed with stuff and heart. That's why I personally give him a lot of rope. He showed he was a team-win guy even when the team was bad. A perfect transition from the Bonds years.

Oh, he gets slack from me too. For this year only, though. Hopefully this year will "humble" Timmy a bit, i.e. he'll learn he can't just do anything he wants with his off-season and expect to be able turn it on and dominate when the season starts. These off-season drastic weight changes have got to stop.

 

[TheSaboteur]

Has Kuiper been mixing up players' names a lot tonight? I feel like I've heard him do it a few times, or maybe I'm just hearing things.

 

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Oh, he gets slack from me too. For this year only, though. Hopefully this year will "humble" Timmy a bit, i.e. he'll learn he can't just do anything he wants with his off-season and expect to be able turn it on and dominate when the season starts. These off-season drastic weight changes have got to stop.

The rise and fall of the rock star

Its funny, the same thing you just said could easily be applied to Pablo 2010. He was the struggling star then

I attribute a lot of the Giants successes now to what Timmy brought back then, a total attitude change.

 

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So close..Posey gave it a ride

 

[gp956]

So close..Posey gave it a ride

The wild pitch cost Posey a RBI and a hitless AB.

 

[gp956]

The rise and fall of the rock star

Its funny, the same thing you just said could easily be applied to Pablo 2010. He was the struggling star then

I attribute a lot of the Giants successes now to what Timmy brought back then, a total attitude change.

Maybe. I'd put it more emphasis on the commitment made to the farm system. Timmy's part of that.

 

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Giants Win!

 

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Maybe. I'd put it more emphasis on the commitment made to the farm system. Timmy's part of that.

Oh of course, I never really paid attention to the underpinnings of the transformation. That's why hang out here to get my minor league fix

He was the first one to really break through and be the new face of the franchise and put the steroid years behind us (well, what we thought was behind us)


Back to topic: Cain getting his 16th win! He is finally getting his due

 

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Matt Cain 16-5 2.77 ERA - should get some Cy Young votes.

 

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Ok defense..you have a few games to get those errors out of your system

 

[iHATEdodgers]

Anyone think Cain has a shot at the CY Young? I guess maybe you go with Dickey or Lohse, but Cain should at least get some votes. Might come down to everyone's last start...

 

[gp956]

Oh of course, I never really paid attention to the underpinnings of the transformation. That's why hang out here to get my minor league fix

He was the first one to really break through and be the new face of the franchise and put the steroid years behind us (well, what we thought was behind us)


Back to topic: Cain getting his 16th win! He is finally getting his due

Yeah, I can see that.

 

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Anyone think Cain has a shot at the CY Young? I guess maybe you go with Dickey or Lohse, but Cain should at least get some votes. Might come down to everyone's last start...

I think out of respect he deserves a nod.

It's Dickey or Gio for me

 

[iHATEdodgers]

I think out of respect he deserves a nod.

It's Dickey or Gio for me

Gio walks too many guys for my taste so his whip is a little higher and averages barely 6 IP per start...

Dickey averages 7 IP and really has great numbers to go along with the 19 wins. He's probably the front runner... But if he bombs his last start and Cain has another excellent one, they flip flop for the era "title" and I think that gives Cain the edge.

Course Cain might not get another start... And Dicky probably doesnt bomb and then that's that I guess.

 

[gp956]

Knuckleballers should not be allowed to win Cy Youngs. They're not beating anyone, they're fooling them. They're no Bro.

 

[Heathbar012]

Knuckleballers should not be allowed to win Cy Youngs. They're not beating anyone, they're fooling them. They're no Bro.

"Like."

 

[SF11704]

As a two time CY winner he gets some 'allowances' as we move through the season. The real issue is the playoffs. As we moved through 30 of his starts it was always about 'turning the corner' and finding himself. The time has now run out. He'll get one more start to turn the corner and find himself. I always thought of Timmy as 4-5 hits through 7IP and a max of 2ER. He was always 'money in the bank'. This year has has trouble getting through 5IP and less than 5ER. I really wanted to see him do what Cain did yesterday. Would have been a great feeling knowing he looked good heading into the playoffs. Didn't happen. I think that Cain and MadBum can onll carry us so far. Hoping that Timmy can step to the plate for us. If we wind up splitting at home I see Timmy opening in either WAS or CINN for game 3. That game becomes super critical for us. Do we pitch Cain on 3 days rest if he falters?

 

[gp956]

As a two time CY winner he gets some 'allowances' as we move through the season. The real issue is the playoffs. As we moved through 30 of his starts it was always about 'turning the corner' and finding himself. The time has now run out. He'll get one more start to turn the corner and find himself. I always thought of Timmy as 4-5 hits through 7IP and a max of 2ER. He was always 'money in the bank'. This year has has trouble getting through 5IP and less than 5ER. I really wanted to see him do what Cain did yesterday. Would have been a great feeling knowing he looked good heading into the playoffs. Didn't happen. I think that Cain and MadBum can onll carry us so far. Hoping that Timmy can step to the plate for us. If we wind up splitting at home I see Timmy opening in either WAS or CINN for game 3. That game becomes super critical for us. Do we pitch Cain on 3 days rest if he falters?

Az owns timmy, so I'm not sure we can take too much away from his poor performance against them - had he dominated as Matt "MF" Cain did, different story, of course.

I think timmy takes his regular turn in the playoffs regardless of the outcome of the first two. What I'd like to see is for him to come into the game completely warmed up, firing in the 93mph range, geared for going through the lineup twice. Five competitive innings - that's all I expect.