7 1/2 wins

[huskers1217]

Is the over/under win total for Bengals in Vegas this year

Seems really low since A.J could even be better

Thoughts?

 

[cincygrad]

Based on our track-record (inconsistent from one season to the next), the betting public probably doesn't trust us to have a good year. I'll let BengalDoug figure it out though -- I think he might live in Vegas.

 

[DanBengalfan]

odds are a few key injuries will sink us, the Bengals don't handle injuries as well as many perennial playoff teams. one can only hope that doesn't happen.

So basically if your betting we win 8 games you are betting that:

1. Dalton stays healthy
2. A J Green stays healthy
3. Our CB core doesn't get depleted again
4. Our Safeties play well
5. Our running game remains efficient with the players we have.

There's a lot of optimism to be had from a fans perspective, the Bengals have a good upside;
but Its a wonder Vegas didn't put it any lower. and this bet is not a good investment.

 

[cincygrad]

odds are a few key injuries will sink us, the Bengals don't handle injuries as well as many perennial playoff teams. one can only hope that doesn't happen.

So basically if your betting we win 8 games you are betting that:

1. Dalton stays healthy
2. A J Green stays healthy
3. Our CB core doesn't get depleted again
4. Our Safeties play well
5. Our running game becomes efficient with the players we have.

There's a lot of optimism to be had from a fans perspective, the Bengals have a good upside;
but Its a wonder Vegas didn't put it any lower. and this bet is not a good investment.

FIFY

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Based on our track-record (inconsistent from one season to the next), the betting public probably doesn't trust us to have a good year. I'll let BengalDoug figure it out though -- I think he might live in Vegas.

Pretty sure Bengal Doug lives somewhere near Dayton unless he moved, because him and I were goign to go catch the Broncos game at a sports bar in Indiana once when the home opener against the Broncos wasn't sold out....where Stokely made that miracle grab in the closing seconds to beat us.

7.5 seems reasonable, even if we stay healthy from a Vegas standpoint.

1) As you guys have mentioned, we haven't had back to back winning seasons in forever.

2) Our team has gotten even younger this year, fortunately our QB is a year older and wiser hopefully.

3) Our schedule is much more difficult than last year and we didn't beat a team with a winning record all last year.

I think there is reason to have high hopes for this team as a fan, but as a Vegas bookie, I think that is a fair guess, because you don't want the over or under to far exceed the other unless it is fixed. lol

 

[cincygrad]

Pretty sure Bengal Doug lives somewhere near Dayton unless he moved, because him and I were goign to go catch the Broncos game at a sports bar in Indiana once when the home opener against the Broncos wasn't sold out....where Stokely made that miracle grab in the closing seconds to beat us.

I was just poking fun at Doug's gambling habit.

Thanks for reminding me of that Stokely game..... What an awful game.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

I was just poking fun at Doug's gambling habit.

Thanks for reminding me of that Stokely game..... What an awful game.

I think the team had bought so many tickets or something to get the game on tv eventually, because I remember watching it at home. However, that game left me numb. I wasn't sure if I wanted to hit something or get all emotional...pretty bad for a grown ass man.

 

[Cincyfan78]

I think 7 1/2 is about right.

I think a full off-season with Gruden will really go a long way to opening up the offense this year. Upgrades at both Guard positions, and at RB will really help as well.

Defense should be good enough. Not sure they'll be as good as last years squad, but they have a lot of young guys. They just need to step up.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

I think 7 1/2 is about right.

I think a full off-season with Gruden will really go a long way to opening up the offense this year. Upgrades at both Guard positions, and at RB will really help as well.

Defense should be good enough. Not sure they'll be as good as last years squad, but they have a lot of young guys. They just need to step up.

I fully expect the defense to be even better this year even if they are not ranked as high. Lot of high powered offenses we are going to go against so that will hurt the rankings, but I expect this defense to be much better. Great DL depth and rotation, hopefully Rey takes things seriously and improves, with Lawson and Howard returning and Muckelroy for that matter. A lot more CB, and safety depth as I see Allen being a swing man, and with Iloka and Nelson back, Newman and a re-energized Pacman..I can see this defense being a lot stronger.

 

[Cincyfan78]

I fully expect the defense to be even better this year even if they are not ranked as high. Lot of high powered offenses we are going to go against so that will hurt the rankings, but I expect this defense to be much better. Great DL depth and rotation, hopefully Rey takes things seriously and improves, with Lawson and Howard returning and Muckelroy for that matter. A lot more CB, and safety depth as I see Allen being a swing man, and with Iloka and Nelson back, Newman and a re-energized Pacman..I can see this defense being a lot stronger.

I'm looking at it more like...you don't know what you will get from the defense.

Will hall be healthy? They say it takes a full year to recover and then some to get back to normal after his type of injury.

Depth a CB is a plus, but they are all pretty old and busted up. We'll see.

Safety is unchanged. Removed Crocker, but Mays or Iloka...no one knows what they can bring to the table yet.

DL depth is also questioned after losing Fenene and Rucker (who finally had a health year). They got some great guys in the draft and the F/A guys will add depth (if they can hang around), but can they match last year's production? I have my doubts.

I expect the offense to take a step forward this year. However, I have some reservations about the defense due to a lot of changes.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

I'm looking at it more like...you don't know what you will get from the defense.

Will hall be healthy? They say it takes a full year to recover and then some to get back to normal after his type of injury.

Depth a CB is a plus, but they are all pretty old and busted up. We'll see.

Safety is unchanged. Removed Crocker, but Mays or Iloka...no one knows what they can bring to the table yet.

DL depth is also questioned after losing Fenene and Rucker (who finally had a health year). They got some great guys in the draft and the F/A guys will add depth (if they can hang around), but can they match last year's production? I have my doubts.

I expect the offense to take a step forward this year. However, I have some reservations about the defense due to a lot of changes.

I expect the defense from my point of view to be better than last year, even if they will not rank as high in the defensive rankings due to the offenses we face.

I also expect the offense to be better as well, even with the debate of #2 WR, because Shipley is back to be the safety valve, Hawkins really showed somethign last year..Gresham is coming off a pro-bowl year, and along with Charles and Cochart and the better RB core in my opinion, we should open more positions up to be part of the WCO we are putting together. TE and RB should be targeted more this year than in years past IMO.

#2 WR is important, but I think it will not be as much as an issue as a lot of people make it out to be, because I think the RB and TE will be much more involved in the passing game this year, and Shipley and Hawkins will be there to assist Dalton in tough 3rd downs.

I think we have a lot better record against teams with winning records this year and finish around 9-7 again, which is not a step up from last year record wise, but considering the schedule, it is still moving in the right direction epsecially with some big wins this year against winning teams, and a couple on the road even I bet.

 

[futballiscool]

What a brutal final 10 games

 

[bengaldoug]

Just because they made the playoffs last year, my default position would be under, since this team under Lewis has never put together back to back winning seasons, but there's way too many variables right now to make an educated call.......

 

[kramer1]

Just because they made the playoffs last year, my default position would be under, since this team under Lewis has never put together back to back winning seasons, but there's way too many variables right now to make an educated call.......

No, there isn't. The schedule is brutal. They have the worst head coach and gm in the league. Take the under and laugh your way to the bank. There's no way this team wins 8 games.

 

[bengaldoug]

Double killjoy.......