fightinfunbags
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I just remember that when he played he was hands down the best LT in the NFL.Maybe Boselli's career was cut short due to injury? Don't really remember his career.
I just remember that when he played he was hands down the best LT in the NFL.Maybe Boselli's career was cut short due to injury? Don't really remember his career.
For half his 8 year career, Willis was considered the best ILB in football. 8yr career, 7x PB & 5x AP. For an 8year career, that's a lot more than just "very good." I don't think it's an issue of IF he gets in the HOF, I think it's WHEN.Willis is a Hall of Very Good for me. Only played like 7 years.
Willis didn't care enough about football to keep playing. How is that deserving of the hall?For half his 8 year career, Willis was considered the best ILB in football. 8yr career, 7x PB & 5x AP. For an 8year career, that's a lot more than just "very good." I don't think it's an issue of IF he gets in the HOF, I think it's WHEN.
I get the idea that he only played 8 seasons, but Boselli only played 7, not to mention that after Terrell Davis got in the HOF, I don't think that consideration weighs as much as it used to.
It's not the Hall of Those Who Love Football the Most. I'm sure some HOF voters could knock Willis for quitting when he could've continued to play at a high level. Then again, it hasn't hurt other players' HOF chances.Willis didn't care enough about football to keep playing. How is that deserving of the hall?
Boselli's career ended because of injury.
For me, he traded the hall to play with his kids.It's not the Hall of Those Who Love Football the Most. I'm sure some HOF voters could knock Willis for quitting when he could've continued to play at a high level. Then again, it hasn't hurt other players' HOF chances.
Willis said he quit b/c of his health and wanting to leave on his terms while he was still playing at a high level. The last few years, he had nagging toe injuries that started to effect him. "Honestly, I pay attention to guys when they're finished playing, walking around like they've got no hips and they can't play with their kids. They can barely walk," Willis said. "People see that and they feel sorry, but they don't realize it's because he played a few extra years. ...For me, there's more to my life than football. It has provided an amazing platform for me to build on, but it's my health first and everything else just kind of makes sense around it."
I think Willis gets in, maybe not this year, but he gets in.
Correct Sir....top 15 finalists eventually get in... which is why I'm glad Woodsen got this muchI think Willis gets in, maybe not this year, but he gets in.
How do you not put Joe Thomas in???now off the actual list.
Dwight Freeney
Reggie Wayne
Devin Hester
For me, he traded the hall to play with his kids.
His call, of course, but it's not a football hall of famer move. It's one of the lines that separates. He had more to give to the game, but didn't.
How do you not put Joe Thomas in???
For me, he traded the hall to play with his kids.
His call, of course, but it's not a football hall of famer move. It's one of the lines that separates. He had more to give to the game, but didn't.
Both played longer. Barry played a position with shorter careers. Both were also in a disaster of an organization. Would they have left if they weren't stuck in Detriot? Probably not.He belongs in the HOF. Had a damn good career before a nagging injury probably changed the way he had to play on the field.
Do you feel the same way about Barry Sanders & Calvin Johnson? They also retired early.
I agree, but he chose differently.If he played more years an auto HOF.
I agree, but he chose differently.
I was one of the first people on the Willis wagon his draft year. Not a Willis or Niner hater.
Longevity should be and typically is one of the most important criteria for the Hall. How many years of fans and seasons of football did you leave a mark?
Both played longer. Barry played a position with shorter careers. Both were also in a disaster of an organization. Would they have left if they weren't stuck in Detriot? Probably not.
In addition to the modern-era finalists will be senior finalist Cliff Branch, contributor finalist Art McNally and coach finalist Dick Vermeil.
- Jared Allen, DE – 2004-2007 Kansas City Chiefs, 2008-2013 Minnesota Vikings, 2014-2015 Chicago Bears, 2015 Carolina Panthers
- Willie Anderson, OT -- 1996-2007 Cincinnati Bengals, 2008 Baltimore Ravens
- Ronde Barber, DB – 1997-2012 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
- Tony Boselli, T -- 1995-2001 Jacksonville Jaguars, 2002 Houston Texans (injured reserve)
- LeRoy Butler, S -- 1990-2001 Green Bay Packers
- Devin Hester, PR/KR/WR -- 2006-2013 Chicago Bears, 2014-2015 Atlanta Falcons, 2016 Baltimore Ravens, 2016 Seattle Seahawks
- Torry Holt, WR -- 1999-2008 St. Louis Rams, 2009 Jacksonville Jaguars
- Andre Johnson, WR -- 2003-2014 Houston Texans, 2015 Indianapolis Colts, 2016 Tennessee Titans
- Sam Mills, LB -- 1986-1994 New Orleans Saints, 1995-97 Carolina Panthers
- Richard Seymour, DE/DT -- 2001-08 New England Patriots, 2009-2012 Oakland Raiders
- Zach Thomas, LB -- 1996-2007 Miami Dolphins, 2008 Dallas Cowboys
- DeMarcus Ware, LB -- 2005-2013 Dallas Cowboys, 2014-2016 Denver Broncos
- Reggie Wayne, WR -- 2001-2014 Indianapolis Colts
- Patrick Willis, LB -- 2007-2014 San Francisco 49ers
- Bryant Young, DE/DT -- 1994-2007 San Francisco 49ers
I can respect it from a family perspective or his wife's perspective, but it's not respectable from football's perspective. It's just an early end of something great and less great football.We look at things differently.
You Question the decision. I respect it
here's the actual list:
- Jared Allen, DE – 2004-2007 Kansas City Chiefs, 2008-2013 Minnesota Vikings, 2014-2015 Chicago Bears, 2015 Carolina Panthers
- Willie Anderson, OT -- 1996-2007 Cincinnati Bengals, 2008 Baltimore Ravens
- Ronde Barber, DB – 1997-2012 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
- Dwight Freeney, DE -- 2002-2012 Indianapolis Colts, 2013-14 San Diego Chargers, 2015 Arizona Cardinals, 2016 Atlanta Falcons, 2017 Detroit Lions, 2017 Seattle Seahawks
- Devin Hester, PR/KR/WR -- 2006-2013 Chicago Bears, 2014-2015 Atlanta Falcons, 2016 Baltimore Ravens, 2016 Seattle Seahawks
- Torry Holt, WR -- 1999-2008 St. Louis Rams, 2009 Jacksonville Jaguars
- Andre Johnson, WR -- 2003-2014 Houston Texans, 2015 Indianapolis Colts, 2016 Tennessee Titans
- Albert Lewis, CB -- 1983-1993 Kansas City Chiefs, 1994-1998 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders
- Darrelle Revis, CB -- 2007-2012/2015-16 New York Jets, 2013 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2014 New England Patriots, 2017 Kansas City Chiefs
- Joe Thomas, LT -- 2007-2017 Cleveland Browns
- Zach Thomas, LB -- 1996-2007 Miami Dolphins, 2008 Dallas Cowboys
- DeMarcus Ware, LB -- 2005-2013 Dallas Cowboys, 2014-2016 Denver Broncos
- Reggie Wayne, WR -- 2001-2014 Indianapolis Colts
- Patrick Willis, LB -- 2007-2014 San Francisco 49ers
- Darren Woodson, S -- 1992-2003 Dallas Cowboys