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This is not my official list (I will try to put that out sometime before ST, I think), but this is a semi-thought-out current list...
1) Christian Arroyo - SS, 1st round, 2013
He is coming off a big year in San Jose for his age 20 season. He slashed .304 / .344 / .459 / .803 with 9 HRs. While he is not a power hitter, it looks like he will have decent enough pop to keep pitchers honest moving forward. It is questionable whether he will be able to stay at SS, he clubhouse presence and overall athleticism might make the OF a worst-case-scenario option for him. More likely, his future is likely at 2B or 3B.
2) Tyler Beede - RHP, 1st round, 2014
He had a very nice run in San Jose in '14 but struggled after a promotion to Richmond. He maintained his moderate K/9 rate (6.4 -> 6.1) but he seemed to lose control (1.5 -> 4.4). However, while his WHIP rose post-promotion (1.146 -> 1.341), it did not rise as much as his walks did, so he was actually harder to hit in Richmond. I have not heard about any specif limitations the team has put on him regarding his arsenal, so I am not sure how much to place in any of his numbers.
3) Phil Bickford - RHP, 1st round, 2015
Bickford is the second consecutive former Blue Jays first rounder that the Giants have picked and successfully signed. Bickford was drafted #10 overall out of HS in 2013. Bickford only got 22.1 IP in Arizona in '15, but he dominated. He had a 0.851 WHIP with 32 K and only 6 BBs. I am actually more excited for Bickford than I am for Beede, but Beede is further along, so he gets the nod for the #2 slot. I expect Bickford to be a part of the San Jose rotation in '16, his age 20 season.
4) Mac Williamson - OF, 3rd round, 2012
Mac had TJ in 2014. Typically, that is not a big deal for position players. However, it did cost him a year of development, and his power pretty much disappeared in 2015 as he got back into the game. Outside of his actual HR power-stroke, he did put up very good numbers in Richmond before going to Sacramento and eventually San Fran. While his batting average went WAY down in Sacto, his OBP actually went up and he found his power-stroke (8 HR in 189 ABs; .809 OPS). When he got to SF, Parker pretty much stole all of his PT, so we really dont know for sure if he is actually ready for the Show or not yet. Personally, I am luke-warm on him. He showed a lot of promise when he joined the org, but has been a bit injury-plagued since and has not had a real breakout season yet.
5) Clayton Blackburn - RHP, 16th round, 2011
Blackburn was the hands-down best pitcher in the PCL in '15. He has nothing left to prove in the minors. At this point, he is almost not a prospect anymore, he just needs his chance to take a roster spot. He should start the 2016 season in Sacto as the Ace of their staff, and act as the #6 man in the SF rotation. More-so than anything else, though, I think he is a prime trade chip.
6) Adalberto Mejia - LHP, International free agent, 2010
I might actually have him rated too low. He got popped for PEDs starting the 2015 season, so his activity was very limited. But his numbers in Richmond were solid (1.091 WHIP, 2.45 ERA, 6.7 K/9, 3.2 BB/9), so he should be promoted to Sacto to start the '16 season (his age 23 season). Lefty starters are something special, and in particular, the Giants are rather thin in them at the moment.
7) Jarrett Parker - OF, 2nd round, 2010
Truthfully, I probably have him rated too high. But when a kid goes on that kind of tear in the majors to start him MLB career, you have to take notice. Multiple reports indicate that he really adjusted his approach to ABs after his prior MLB stint and everything just clicked for him. His defense appears to be his major issue right now. But at 6-4, I am not sure why the Giants have not gotten him a 1B glove (assuming they have not). He seems a natural to AT LEAST add depth there. But his bat SHOULD play at the MLB level. He has consistently shown power and .800+ OPSs.
8) Chris Stratton - RHP, 1st round, 2012
I am probably too bullish on Stratton, but I have just seen too many reports about the Giants putting hard restrictions on his repertoire. I dont really trust his numbers because of this. He has shown flashes brilliance that get my hopes up on him. I think that when/if the Giants let him loose, he will blow up and be a low-end 2 / very good 3.
9) Chris Shaw - 1B, 1st round (sup), 2015
He was scouted as the premier power hitter in the entire 2015 draft. How he fell to the Giants at #31 does not make a lot of sense. When he took the field, he pretty much confirmed that his bat is no joke. He knocked 12 HRs in 178 ABs with a .911 OPS. I have not heard anything about his glove yet. Granted, he is a fresh draftee and has only played in Arizona, I suspect he, combined with Posey, will prevent the Giants from locking up Belt to a long term deal.
10) Aramis Garcia - C, 2nd round, 2014
This is the guy who makes Susac so expendable. His defense, IIRC, is slightly suspect, though, but he has plenty of time to work on that. his bat, though, is no joke. In Augusta, he hit 15 HRs in 319 ABs for an .817 OPS clip. Combined with Susac and Brown, the Giants catching depth is set for next 5-6 years.
This is not my official list (I will try to put that out sometime before ST, I think), but this is a semi-thought-out current list...
5) Clayton Blackburn - RHP, 16th round, 2011
Blackburn was the hands-down best pitcher in the PCL in '15. He has nothing left to prove in the minors. At this point, he is almost not a prospect anymore, he just needs his chance to take a roster spot. He should start the 2016 season in Sacto as the Ace of their staff, and act as the #6 man in the SF rotation. More-so than anything else, though, I think he is a prime trade chip.
Clayton Blackburn a Giants rotation candidate
Blackburn progressed substantially, winning nearly half as many games this year as he did in his previous four professional seasons. The right-hander finished 10-4 with a Pacific Coast League-leading 2.85 ERA in 23 appearances (20 starts) for Triple-A Sacramento. From 2011-14, Blackburn went 23-17.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
"He has really turned a corner for us," Giants general manager Bobby Evans said of Blackburn, who's ranked 21st on MLB.com's list of the organization's top 30 prospects.
The source of Blackburn's improvement was evident. He stayed in better physical shape, as Bert Bradley, San Francisco's coordinator of Minor League pitching, emphasized.
"He always had some nagging injury," Bradley said Monday. In 2014, for example, a rib ailment and a cracked fingernail limited Blackburn to 20 starts, all but two of them with Double-A Richmond. Blackburn finished a combined 5-7 with a 3.31 ERA. His skill was obvious, but he couldn't stay healthy long enough to develop it.
This season was different. Listed at 260 pounds in the Giants' 2014 media guide, Blackburn trimmed his weight to 230 this year. That helped him broaden his pitching repertoire. His curveball, which was considered his best pitch, became even more formidable.
"He tightened it up and got to where he can throw it at different speeds now. He can throw it harder," Bradley said.
Nice list, cal. We appreciate all o' y'all's efforts.
Now maybe this article is just an offseason bandwidth stuffer, but it seems like Blackburn is ready for a test in Teh Show. With us looking for SP's, I'd like to see him get a shot.
He can even hit - he had a .789 OPS last year in Sacto. Always a plus.
Spring training is going to be very interesting.
What I like is that he is obviously taking this opportunity very seriously, with the weight loss and the pitch development. If the free agent market somehow passes us by, we could do a lot worse than give CB a shot.I saw Blackburn pitch twice in Sacramento this summer. In one game, he fast ball was hopping and the curveball was other-worldly. In the other game, the curveball was not sharp, and he got hit around some. All in all, he is an impressive looking kid. Not much else for him to learn in the Coast League. I hope he gets a shot at the rotation.
Cal, as usual, amazing shit here.
FWIW I have read somewhere that Beede was told by mgmt this past season to throw 2-3 specific pitches to sharpen them in an attempt to develop his secondary pitches and his fastball was not necessarily one of them. I believe it was change (or circle change, can't remember), sinker, and slider but I do remember his fastball being one of the only pitches they limited him on. This was also the reason the writer thought that Beede's K/BB ratio was so drastically different from the prior year as his walks went up.
In San Jose, Beede threw almost exclusively sinker/slider(really a cutter)/change. In college, he was a power 4-seam fastball/nasty curveball. That's why you saw the K's down last year, he was pitching to contact. They also tweaked his mechanics a bit.
The aggressive promotion to AA didn't look pretty, but the Giants loosened the leash a bit, and allowed him to throw his whole repertoire. For him, he lost the feel of his power fastball/curve and was facing tougher competition. The idea is that he'll come back next season with all the tools in the world to succeed.
Great stuff here Stokes, thanks for reporting. Dunning and Snodgrass, at this point, are both minor league fillers. I wouldn't be surprised if one or both don't make it out of spring training with the Giants' organization. There is a big lack of spots at AA and AAA for pitchers right now. I would be surprised if the Giants sign any more minor league free agent pitchers this off season. They currently have at least 26 guys at AA and AAA, not counting the guys from San Jose that deserve promotions. In fact, Lujan may be a victim to this congestion as he will probably repeat AA in 2016. Casilla or Gregorio may have to repeat AA as well. In fact, Mejia may repeat AA as well since he didn't pitch a full season there and is young. Rando Moreno, however, may benefit from the lack of position players to get the starting spot at AAA.Winter League Updates
Venezuela
* Jake Dunning: 0-1, 6.61 ERA, 16.1 IP, 4 BB, 10 SO
– Has made three starts and five relief appearances … Surrendered 26 hits over 16 1/3 innings … Spent the majority of the 2015 season pitching for Triple-A Sacramento (6.85 ERA in 46 innings).
* Matt Lujan: 2-1, 1.97 ERA, 32.0 IP, 14 BB, 15 SO
– Has been a standout starting pitcher for Aguilas del Zulia of the Venezuelan Winter League … Has allowed one or no earned runs in five out of his six starts … Pitched 13 scoreless innings with just four hits allowed over his last two starts … Owned a 3.18 ERA in 20 starts for Double-A Richmond during the 2015 season.
* Edwin Quirarte: 0-1, 3.27 ERA, 11.0 IP, 6 BB, 12 SO
– Limiting the opposition to a .194 batting average in 11 innings out of the bullpen … Over his last 10 appearances, has pitched nine innings with just one run and four hits allowed … Is a minor league free agent … 2015 marked his fifth straight season in Richmond.
* Jack Snodgrass: 0-1, 4.15 ERA, 8.2 IP, 8 BB, 6 SO
– Has made four starts in winter ball totaling just 8 2/3 innings … 2012 Cal League All-Star split time between Richmond and Sacramento this year (4.35 combined ERA).
The Venezuelan Winter League regular season concludes December 29.
Dominican Republic
* Jose Casilla: 0-0, 3.18 ERA, 5.2 IP, 1 BB, 2 SO
– Has seen action in six games out of the bullpen … Surrendered two runs over 5 2/3 innings … Is coming off a tremendous season with Richmond (1.44 ERA in 47 relief appearances).
* Joan Gregorio: 0-1, 2.03 ERA, 13.1 IP, 3 BB, 8 SO
– A member of San Francisco’s 40-man roster … Has made six appearances (one start) in winter ball … Allowed only six hits in 13 1/3 innings (.133 opponents batting average) … Has not surrendered a hit in his last two outings (five innings) … Finished the 2015 season pitching in the Richmond starting rotation (3.09 ERA).
* Adalberto Mejia: 1-0, 3.60 ERA, 5.0 IP, 1 BB, 5 SO
– Joined Gigantes del Cibao last week after a successful Arizona Fall League season … Has made one winter ball start thus far … Pitched five innings with two runs allowed, one walk and five strikeouts … Was added to San Francisco’s 40-man roster last month after pitching for Richmond during the 2015 season (2.45 ERA in nine starts).
* Rando Moreno: .103 AVG, 0 HR, 0 RBI
– Had a breakout 2015 season as the starting shortstop for Richmond earning Eastern League All-Star honors (.275 AVG in 121 games) … Is just 3-for-29 in 11 winter ball games.
The Dominican Winter League regular season concludes December 21.
Mexico
* Ryan Lollis: .316 AVG, 1 HR, 17 RBI
– Led the SF Giants farm system in batting average during the 2015 season (.340 AVG over three levels) and also received 12 at-bats in San Francisco … Has continued his excellent year in the Mexican Winter League … Owns a .316 batting average in 31 games with seven doubles, one triple and one home run … Has walked (10) more than he’s struck out (9) … Currently a minor league free agent.
The Mexican Winter League regular season ends on December 29.
I would assume he would start 2016 back in AA and get moved up to AAA quickly if he excels.In San Jose, Beede threw almost exclusively sinker/slider(really a cutter)/change. In college, he was a power 4-seam fastball/nasty curveball. That's why you saw the K's down last year, he was pitching to contact. They also tweaked his mechanics a bit.
The aggressive promotion to AA didn't look pretty, but the Giants loosened the leash a bit, and allowed him to throw his whole repertoire. For him, he lost the feel of his power fastball/curve and was facing tougher competition. The idea is that he'll come back next season with all the tools in the world to succeed.
Arroyo, Beede Headline Top Prospect List
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Arroyo, Beede Headline Top Prospect List
By Joe Ritzo
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Christian Arroyo has been named the #1 prospect in the San Francisco Giants organization by Baseball America
2015 San Jose Giants standouts Christian Arroyo and Tyler Beede were rated the #1 and #2 prospects respectively in the San Francisco organization today by Baseball America. Seven of the ten players on BA’s top 10 list are former San Jose Giants.
Baseball America’s Top 10 San Francisco Giants prospects:
1. Christian Arroyo, SS
2. Tyler Beede, RHP
3. Phil Bickford, RHP
4. Lucius Fox, SS
5. Chris Shaw, 1B
6. Sam Coonrod, RHP
7. Aramis Garcia, C
8. Clayton Blackburn, RHP
9. Jarrett Parker, OF
10. Adalberto Mejia, LHP
Arroyo is coming off an outstanding 2015 season in the California League. As San Jose’s everyday shortstop this year, Arroyo finished seventh in the league with a .304 batting average. Over 90 games, Arroyo produced 28 doubles, two triples, nine home runs and 42 RBI’s. A consistent presence out of the #2 spot in the batting order, Arroyo hit .300 in the first half before batting at a .307 clip after the All-Star break. For his efforts, Arroyo was named to the postseason California League All-Star team while also garnering the San Jose Giants team MVP award.
The 20-year old former first round pick then followed up his fantastic campaign in San Jose with a stellar effort in the Arizona Fall League. Facing some of the top pitching prospects in baseball, Arroyo hit .308 with three home runs over 19 AFL games.
Arroyo was rated the #10 prospect in the system by Baseball America after the 2014 season. He’s the first position player to be named the #1 prospect in the organization by BA since Gary Brown after the 2012 season. Buster Posey (2010) and Brandon Belt (2011) have also garnered the #1 prospect distinction as position players this decade.
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2015 Cal League All-Star Tyler Beede is the Giants’ #2 prospect according to Baseball America
This year marked Beede’s first full professional season after his selection in the first round of the 2014 draft. The Vanderbilt product excelled in the San Jose starting rotation during the first half of this season. In nine starts, Beede fashioned a 2.24 ERA with 37 strikeouts and just nine walks over 52 1/3 innings. In his final start before a promotion to Double-A, Beede struck out 11 batters over seven scoreless innings.
Beede then made 13 starts with Richmond and posted a 5.23 ERA with 49 strikeouts in 72 1/3 innings. Despite the high ERA, Beede still limited the opposition to a .234 batting average in Double-A and allowed two runs or fewer in seven out of his 13 starts.
The players from this top 10 list most likely to open the 2016 season in San Jose are the trio of Chris Shaw, Sam Coonrod and Aramis Garcia. Shaw, rated the #5 overall prospect in the system by Baseball America, was a supplemental first round draft pick last June out of Boston College. A left-handed hitter with plus-power, Shaw was sent to Salem-Keizer after signing where he led the Short-Season Northwest League in home runs with 12 (in 46 games). Shaw added 11 doubles and finished with a .287 batting average.
Coonrod, the #6 prospect, had a terrific regular season with the Class-A Augusta GreenJackets before earning a call-up to San Jose for the California League playoffs. In Augusta, Coonrod had a 3.14 ERA in 22 starts and was fourth in the South Atlantic League with 114 strikeouts (in 111 innings). He then made his mark in San Jose last September with two excellent outings during the Giants’ run to the North Division title. In the decisive third game of the Mini Series in Stockton, Coonrod fired four perfect innings of long relief before a solid start in Game 5 of the Division Series at Visalia (5 2/3 innings, 3 runs, 7 strikeouts).
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Top prospect Aramis Garcia delivered several key hits for San Jose during the playoffs last September
Garcia had a breakout first full professional season in 2015, most notably with Augusta before supplying several key hits for San Jose during the Cal League playoffs. The slugging catcher, drafted in the second round by the Giants out of Florida International University, blasted a team-leading 15 home runs for Augusta and hit .336 after the All-Star break. He was then promoted to San Jose in early-August and batted .227 with no homers in 20 regular season games for the Giants. However in the playoffs, Garcia slugged a pair of key home runs, delivered the game-winning hit in the 15th inning of the clinching Mini Series win at Stockton and finished with an overall postseason batting average of .333.
If the powerful duo of Shaw and Garcia anchor the middle of the order and Coonrod headlines the starting rotation, the 2016 San Jose Giants would feature some of the top prospects in the organization.
Pitcher Phil Bickford (#3) and shortstop Lucius Fox (#4) round out the top 5 on the prospect list. Bickford could potentially see time in San Jose at some point during the 2016 season as well. Drafted in the first round last June out of the College of Southern Nevada, the 20-year old right-hander owned a 2.01 ERA in 22 innings (32 strikeouts) for the Arizona Rookie League Giants during the 2015 season. Meanwhile, the Giants made a splash last July when they gave the 18-year old Fox a $6 million signing bonus. Fox, who is from the Bahamas, will make his professional debut in 2016.
The remainder of the top 10 list are all former San Jose Giants. Clayton Blackburn (#8) won the Pacific Coast League ERA title last season while pitching for the Sacramento River Cats. Blackburn was added to the 40-man roster last month and will look to make his major league debut next season. Jarrett Parker (#9) still qualifies for inclusion on top prospect lists despite playing in 21 games with San Francisco last season. Parker, who hit 23 home runs in Triple-A last year, made an impact last September in the big leagues when he clubbed five homers over a three-game span. Finally, Adalberto Mejia (#10), the only left-handed pitcher on the top 10 list, logged a 2.45 ERA in 51 innings for Richmond last season before a successful stint in the Arizona Fall League. Blackburn and Mejia were key members of the 2013 San Jose starting rotation while Parker played in the California League during the 2011 and 2012 seasons.
Beede (#2 – same), Blackburn (#5 – dropped three spots), Mejia (#6 – dropped four spots) and Arroyo (#10 – climbed to #1) were all included on last year’s top 10 list as well. #1 Andrew Susac (graduated to big leagues), #3 Kyle Crick (dropped out), #4 Keury Mella (traded), #7 Ty Blach (dropped out), #8 Hunter Strickland (graduated to big leagues) and #9 Matt Duffy (graduated to big leagues) from last year’s list are no longer considered top 10 prospects by Baseball America.
1. Christian Arroyo, ss
2. Tyler Beede, rhp
3. Phil Bickford, rhp
4. Lucius Fox, ss
5. Chris Shaw, 1b
6. Sam Coonrod, rhp
7. Aramis Garcia, c
8. Clayton Blackburn, rhp
9. Jarrett Parker, of
10. Adalberto Mejia, lhp
1. SS Christian Arroyo
2. SS Lucius Fox
3. RHP Tyler Beede
4. SS Jalen Miller
5. RHP Phil Bickford
6. RHP Samuel Coonrod
7. 1B Christopher Shaw
8. RHP Kyle Crick
9. C Aramis Garcia
10. LHP Adalberto Mejia
1. RHP Tyler Beede
2. SS Christian Arroyo
3. RHP Phil Bickford
4. SS Lucius Fox
5. RHP Samuel Coonrod
6. RHP Kyle Crick
7. SS Jalen Miller
8. 1B Chris Shaw
9. LHP Steve Okert
10. LHP Josh Osich
I assume BP also said we were bare last year (thanks Duffy, Susac, Heston, Parker, Osich, Kontos, etc) and the year before (thanks Panik and Strickland).Baseball Prospectus is quite critical of the Giants farm system, saying this is "the weakest San Francisco system is years". Meanwhile, Baseball America is more bullish on the Giants farm system, saying it's at least middle of the pack.
I agree more with BA than BP on this one. Sure, the Giants don't have a top 10 overall prospect (Arroyo should be a top 70 guy, maybe 50), but they have a very deep system that is full of potential ML contributors in 2016. And that is the most important part, right? Mejia, Blackburn, Okert, Black, Parker, Williamson could all contribute to the big club next year, Beede Arroyo, Shaw, Chase and Jordan Johnson by 2017.
BP putting Crick at 8 is a huge oversight to me as well, he does not belong on any top lists after last season. Meanwhile they talk about the lack of high-ceiling players in the system, but fail to mention Jordan and Chase Johnson, 2 guys with arguably the highest end rotation stuff in the system, particularly Jordan.
I think the Giants system belongs in the 17-14 range, elevated by the fact that the Giants have tons of ML ready contributors, dinged by the fact they lack "sexy" prospects.
I assume BP also said we were bare last year (thanks Duffy, Susac, Heston, Parker, Osich, Kontos, etc) and the year before (thanks Panik and Strickland).
The "experts" completely disregard the DEPTH of this system. The Twins may have 3 $5 lottery tickets, but we have 30 $2 tickets. Who is more likely to find gems?