2016 nfl draft re-grades by walterfootball

[SteelersPride]

regrades for all the first round picks, very intriguing, love his Ezekiel Elliot write up

Live 2016 NFL Draft Grades - WalterFootball.com

Dallas Cowboys: Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State D Grade
One-Year Grade: B Grade

This "B" grade is in no way a reflecton of Ezekiel Elliott's talent level. Elliott has emerged as one of the best running backs in the NFL, performing way better than anyone expected him to. Team sources we spoke to though Elliott would be very good; perhaps on the Fred Taylor level. Elliott proved his detractors wrong by leading the league in rushing as a rookie.

That said, taking a running back at No. 4 overall is still a dangerous strategy. Players at the position are very injury-prone and have a short shelf life, and it could be possible that we've seen Elliott at his best. Plus, running backs grow on trees, and many players at the position would've looked great behind Dallas' dominant offensive line.

Jalen Ramsey wasn't as great during his rookie campaign, but he played very well and will continue to improve. He'll also be in the league much longer than Elliott, barring inexplicable regression.
Read more at Live 2016 NFL Draft Grades - WalterFootball.com

 

[bksballer89]

New Orleans Saints: C+ Grade

Simply not good enough.

 

[GNG]

I guess the so called experts know less than many fans.

 

[jarntt]

regrades for all the first round picks, very intriguing, love his Ezekiel Elliot write up

Live 2016 NFL Draft Grades - WalterFootball.com

Dallas Cowboys: Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State D Grade
One-Year Grade: B Grade

This "B" grade is in no way a reflecton of Ezekiel Elliott's talent level. Elliott has emerged as one of the best running backs in the NFL, performing way better than anyone expected him to. Team sources we spoke to though Elliott would be very good; perhaps on the Fred Taylor level. Elliott proved his detractors wrong by leading the league in rushing as a rookie.

That said, taking a running back at No. 4 overall is still a dangerous strategy. Players at the position are very injury-prone and have a short shelf life, and it could be possible that we've seen Elliott at his best. Plus, running backs grow on trees, and many players at the position would've looked great behind Dallas' dominant offensive line.

Jalen Ramsey wasn't as great during his rookie campaign, but he played very well and will continue to improve. He'll also be in the league much longer than Elliott, barring inexplicable regression.
Read more at Live 2016 NFL Draft Grades - WalterFootball.com

I've given plenty of really bad redraft grades to the Cowboys over the years. Who could forget the 2009 debacle? But giving Elliott less than an A is just crazy and giving the whole draft less than an A is crazy. If Jaylon Smith never steps on an NFL field it's probably an A and if he ever becomes Jaylon Smith it could be the draft of the decade in the NFL. Yeah, 2 years from now Dak and Elliot could suck and change everything, but they were the ones who decided to do it today and not in 3 years, so we can only go by what we have seen so far.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I've given plenty of really bad redraft grades to the Cowboys over the years. Who could forget the 2009 debacle? But giving Elliott less than an A is just crazy and giving the whole draft less than an A is crazy. If Jaylon Smith never steps on an NFL field it's probably an A and if he ever becomes Jaylon Smith it could be the draft of the decade in the NFL. Yeah, 2 years from now Dak and Elliot could suck and change everything, but they were the ones who decided to do it today and not in 3 years, so we can only go by what we have seen so far.

Yeah For sure should be a A for the Cowboy draft, could end up a A + easily.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

With their original 1st, the Chiefs parlayed it into Chris Jones, Parker Ehinger, and Dadi Nicholas. Two starters and a project passrusher; with one impact starter. Not a bad use of a 1st round pick.

 

[PhoenixEagles1]

I've given plenty of really bad redraft grades to the Cowboys over the years. Who could forget the 2009 debacle? But giving Elliott less than an A is just crazy and giving the whole draft less than an A is crazy. If Jaylon Smith never steps on an NFL field it's probably an A and if he ever becomes Jaylon Smith it could be the draft of the decade in the NFL. Yeah, 2 years from now Dak and Elliot could suck and change everything, but they were the ones who decided to do it today and not in 3 years, so we can only go by what we have seen so far.

Totally agree. Picking up the best young RB in the entire NFL while adding an excellent young QB nets you a B? Huhhhh?

 

[Iggloo]

So getting a potential franchise RB and QB in the same draft is a B?

Cleveland must be getting F minus for the last few decades.

 

[SteelersPride]

think he means with that online a lot of players could have been very very successful suggesting it's more the line

 

[jarntt]

think he means with that online a lot of players could have been very very successful suggesting it's more the line

So he is clueless?

 

[jarntt]

My understanding is that the grade is just for the Elliott pick, not the entire draft. He gave him a "D" originally and now has upgraded it to a "B". The only explanation I can see is that if he gives the Elliott pick an "A" today it makes him look even dumber than he originally was with his "D" grade. But this was his original comment, so regardless he looks pretty dumb in retrospect:

"For the past several years, the Cowboys have drafted very well. They had gotten away from the Jerry Jones-style of selecting players. Leading up to the 2016 NFL Draft, it's been rumored that Jones wanted Elliott, while everyone else was in favor of Jalen Ramsey. I don't know why, but the Cowboys are stupid again.

If you draft a running back No. 4 in this day and age, you better make sure that he's the next Emmitt Smith or Barry Sanders. Elliott is not that. He's not even as good as Todd Gurley. You can find very good running backs anywhere. Hell, the Cowboys found DeMarco Murray after the first round. This would be a Millen grade if I didn't like Elliott as a prospect, but selecting him in the top five is borderline insane."


Looks like someone has some serious crow to eat...

 

[beardown07]

My understanding is that the grade is just for the Elliott pick, not the entire draft. He gave him a "D" originally and now has upgraded it to a "B". The only explanation I can see is that if he gives the Elliott pick an "A" today it makes him look even dumber than he originally was with his "D" grade. But this was his original comment, so regardless he looks pretty dumb in retrospect:

"For the past several years, the Cowboys have drafted very well. They had gotten away from the Jerry Jones-style of selecting players. Leading up to the 2016 NFL Draft, it's been rumored that Jones wanted Elliott, while everyone else was in favor of Jalen Ramsey. I don't know why, but the Cowboys are stupid again.

If you draft a running back No. 4 in this day and age, you better make sure that he's the next Emmitt Smith or Barry Sanders. Elliott is not that. He's not even as good as Todd Gurley. You can find very good running backs anywhere. Hell, the Cowboys found DeMarco Murray after the first round. This would be a Millen grade if I didn't like Elliott as a prospect, but selecting him in the top five is borderline insane."


Looks like someone has some serious crow to eat...

He has a point actually. Bears got Jordan Howard, the No. 2 rusher, in the 5th.


Don't get me wrong, Elliott is a stud, just pointing out that his opinion on taking RB's in the top 5 is not that absurd.

 

[jarntt]

He has a point actually. Bears got Jordan Howard, the No. 2 rusher, in the 5th.


Don't get me wrong, Elliott is a stud, just pointing out that his opinion on taking RB's in the top 5 is not that absurd.

So by that line of thinking no one should take a QB early because the one that played the best last year was at the bottom of the 4th round even though the top 2 picks in the draft were QBs?

I'm not a fan of lumping all players together. No two players are the same and every situation is different. When you make assumptions like that you end up making quotes like he did and look silly after the fact.

 

[beardown07]

So by that line of thinking no one should take a QB early because the one that played the best last year was at the bottom of the 4th round even though the top 2 picks in the draft were QBs?

I'm not a fan of lumping all players together. No two players are the same and every situation is different.

Well, the sentiment is more aimed at the way the league is oriented, with the running game taking a backseat to the passing game. The RB position is not as highly valued as it used to be, so I don't think comparing the QB position to the RB position is entirely intellectually honest.

I agree with what you're saying that every situation is different, I'm just saying as a general sentiment, teams don't value RBs that high.

 

[jarntt]

Well, the sentiment is more aimed at the way the league is oriented, with the running game taking a backseat to the passing game. The RB position is not as highly valued as it used to be, so I don't think comparing the QB position to the RB position is entirely intellectually honest.

I agree with what you're saying that every situation is different, I'm just saying as a general sentiment, teams don't value RBs that high.

I'm not comparing the two positions. I'm saying the reason he and you used for justifying it is false. For every Peyton Manning there is a Tom Brady argument. Your comment was

He has a point actually. Bears got Jordan Howard, the No. 2 rusher, in the 5th.

how does that prove you shouldn't take a RB unless this proves you shouldn't take a QB

So by that line of thinking no one should take a QB early because the one that played the best last year was at the bottom of the 4th round even though the top 2 picks in the draft were QBs?

No two players are alike and saying you shouldn't take ANY RB early shows a lack of understanding that each player is different. If you need both and have a QB (or CB) and RB ranked evenly or even close you absolutely take the QB or CB for sure. But if you have Elliott rated as a possible HOF type guy like Dallas did (regardless of if you agree with them) and Ramsey as a "guy you really like" you take Elliott. Heck I wanted Ramsey and was disappointed, but fine with Elliott. Now I thank God we took him.

 

[ehb5]

Yeah For sure should be a A for the Cowboy draft, could end up a A + easily.

Maybe they deserve an A but more so for Dak than for Zeke. I agree with what the author said about the Zeke pick.

 

[ehb5]

So he is clueless?

No hes just right

 

[ehb5]

Dallas got the best case scenario for a RB at #4 and still probably wouldve been better off with Ramsey or Bosa. Top 5 picks at RB are damn hard to justify.

 

[cowboys5xsbs]

Dallas got the best case scenario for a RB at #4 and still probably wouldve been better off with Ramsey or Bosa. Top 5 picks at RB are damn hard to justify.

Bosa was our first choice San Diego took him the pick before us

 

[beardown07]

I'm not comparing the two positions. I'm saying the reason he and you used for justifying it is false. For every Peyton Manning there is a Tom Brady argument. Your comment was

He has a point actually. Bears got Jordan Howard, the No. 2 rusher, in the 5th.

how does that prove you shouldn't take a RB unless this proves you shouldn't take a QB

So by that line of thinking no one should take a QB early because the one that played the best last year was at the bottom of the 4th round even though the top 2 picks in the draft were QBs?

No two players are alike and saying you shouldn't take ANY RB early shows a lack of understanding that each player is different. If you need both and have a QB (or CB) and RB ranked evenly or even close you absolutely take the QB or CB for sure. But if you have Elliott rated as a possible HOF type guy like Dallas did (regardless of if you agree with them) and Ramsey as a "guy you really like" you take Elliott. Heck I wanted Ramsey and was disappointed, but fine with Elliott. Now I thank God we took him.

I honestly don't know wtf you are talking about? You are talking in absolutes, where I merely said he had a point. There is no proving anything. I agreed with you, that every situation is different.

Nobody said you SHOULDN'T take any RB early. I just said most teams won't, unless they think he's the next HOF RB. Exactly what YOU just said, and exactly what the "crow-eater" said.

Jesus dude. You got your guy. He's a stud. Who gives a fuck what anyone else thinks?