2015 ACC Tournament

[purguy12]

I asked a question that you refuse to answer. Did not say a word about them being undefeated.

I asked a simple question. How many ranked teams did they beat over the same time period? My guess without looking at their schedule is 1 which was probably Arkansas

I did answer u. I said they haven't lost. Meaning that is way more impressive.

 

[bksballer89]

Nova has done better. Has won the last 15 games.

19-1 in the last 20

Only 3 of those wins came against ranked teams and those teams were barely ranked. Duke were beating teams solidly in the top 15 for the most part. Butler, Georgetown, St. Johns, & Providence obviously are not on the same level as UNC, Virginia, Notre Dame, or even Ville.

I think Nova is a really good team but I don't think they're better than Duke, Virginia, or Notre Dame. They played in a conference where they were the only really good team

 

[purguy12]

I asked a question that you refuse to answer. Did not say a word about them being undefeated.

I asked a simple question. How many ranked teams did they beat over the same time period? My guess without looking at their schedule is 1 which was probably Arkansas

I agree SEC isn't great but to be undefeated is way more impressive then Dukes 14 game run.

 

[douggie]

Not saying that Villanova doesn't deserve a #1 seed. But their BEST win to date is #22 Butler.

 

[bksballer89]

The Big 10 is another conference that isn't loaded at the top as the ACC is.

It is Wisconsin & Maryland....The rest of the teams are solid teams basically on the same level as NC State for the most part.

 

[douggie]

Whisky 15-1 in the last 16 games.

So I just mention 3 teams, Kentucky, Nova and Whisky.

And again, Duke beat them in Madison, Wisconsin.

 

[purguy12]

Only 3 of those wins came against ranked teams and those teams were barely ranked. Duke were beating teams solidly in the top 15 for the most part. Butler, Georgetown, St. Johns, & Providence obviously are not on the same level as UNC, Virginia, Notre Dame, or even Ville.

I think Nova is a really good team but I don't think they're better than Duke, Virginia, or Notre Dame. They played in a conference where they were the only really good team

U are making my argument about UV being a #1 one duke because ACC is the best conference and u are making my point about ND being a #2 seed. What these 2 teams have done is more impressive then what others do in a weak conference. I also give Duke credit thats why I have them as the #1 or #2 2 Seed.
UV and ND should get rewarded for what they did. These are the 2 champs int he hardest conference.

 

[purguy12]

The Big 10 is another conference that isn't loaded at the top as the ACC is.

It is Wisconsin & Maryland....The rest of the teams are solid teams basically on the same level as NC State for the most part.

I agree, u are making my point. We are starting to agree on things wow.

 

[bksballer89]

Not saying that Villanova doesn't deserve a #1 seed. But their BEST win to date is #22 Butler.

Exactly. The ACC at the top is ridiculous. The only other conference close to being as good as the ACC at the top is the Big 12 with Kansas, Iowa State, Baylor, & Oklahoma

 

[purguy12]

And again, Duke beat them in Madison, Wisconsin.

ok and ND beat Duke twice. we can go back and forth here.

 

[bksballer89]

U are making my argument about UV being a #1 one duke because ACC is the best conference and u are making my point about ND being a #2 seed. What these 2 teams have done is more impressive then what others do in a weak conference. I also give Duke credit thats why I have them as the #1 or #2 2 Seed.
UV and ND should get rewarded for what they did. These are the 2 champs int he hardest conference.

I really don't care who gets the #1 seed. I think both gets a 1 seed if Wisconsin loses to MSU and I think the committee probably goes with Virginia as the 1 seed over Duke if Wisconsin wins their conference tournament. My point was if you look at overall body of work ( road wins, SOS, H2H, & etc) Duke probably has a better overall resume than Virginia. Nobody will be crying about Duke not getting a #1 seed unless Wisconsin lose to MSU and still get a #1 seed.

 

[douggie]

ok and ND beat Duke twice. we can go back and forth here.

And I'm not saying Notre Dame doesn't deserve a #2 seed. The argument is whether Duke deserves a #1 seed or not. I've said from the beginning, that I believe they deserve a #2, but if they get a #1 seed, I can definitely see why. It's their resume, which you've yet to dispel.

 

[purguy12]

I give those teams credit though. They are Conference champs and Tournament champs(whisky playing today. Duke is neither.

 

[bksballer89]

ok and ND beat Duke twice. we can go back and forth here.

Here is the difference with those 2 situations. The committee does not only look at H2H. They also consider SOS, best wins, road wins, & etc. Duke has the advantage over ND in everything except the H2H

 

[mr.hockey4242]

I don't care about Resume they didn't win anything. UV was the ACC regular season Champ and ND was the ACC tournament champ. So you are saying winning the regular season in the toughest conference means crap and winning the ACC tournament after beating Duke and UNC to win it means nothing.

Why even have a Tournament or a Regular season. U need to reward these teams.

Im not saying Duke isn't good. They are very good I just think its crap how they do these brackets. They favor other teams. If Duke was in UV position 100% they would be a #1 seed but because UV is UV they don't get the credit and move to a #2 seed. It makes no sense. Its bad for College basketball.

So what you're saying is. I don't care about facts. My ill informed OPINION is all that matters.

Good god you are like talking to a wall

 

[douggie]

I give those teams credit though. They are Conference champs and Tournament champs(whisky playing today. Duke is neither.

Nope, Duke is no Wisconsin. That's why they beat them on their home court.

 

[purguy12]

And I'm not saying Notre Dame doesn't deserve a #2 seed. The argument is whether Duke deserves a #1 seed or not. I've said from the beginning, that I believe they deserve a #2, but if they get a #1 seed, I can definitely see why. It's their resume, which you've yet to dispel.

Thats what my argument is that ND deserves a #2 seed and UV deserves a #1 seed over Duke. Duke should be High 2 Seed.

 

[bksballer89]

All you need to know about the ACC compare to the other conferences it that according to Joey Brackets, the ACC will have 5 teams seeded as a 4 seed or higher. The only other conference that comes close to that is the big 12 who will have 4 teams seeded as a 4 or higher. The Big East highest seed after Nova is a 6 seed while the Big 10 is the same after Maryland/Wisconsin

 

[douggie]

Thats what my argument is that ND deserves a #2 seed and UV deserves a #1 seed over Duke. Duke should be High 2 Seed.

No, your argument is that Duke doesn't deserve a #1 seed regardless.

 

[purguy12]

So what you're saying is. I don't care about facts. My ill informed OPINION is all that matters.

Good god you are like talking to a wall

That is what u are saying. Facts are Duke didn't win the ACC or the tournament. Thanks for admitting u don't care about facts. At least I know whats wrong now.