MLB Daily Thread: 07-21-17: Yanks win & Red Sox lose. All is right in the world

[bksballer89]

Source: Twins close in on trade for lefty Garcia

 

[soxfan1468927]

Cashman strongly implies Ellsbury is the odd man out when Hicks returns

"Judge and Frazier have obviously earned the right to be everyday players, and Brett is a rock for us"


Im really starting to feel like a Sandoval could happen

I think a lot of teams would take Ellsbury on the league minimum. I think you can get him to clear waivers after July 31st and get something for him after eating his contract.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

All three of them will ultimately need TJ. Enjoy it while you can.

Betances 100% getting traded this offseason, the hidden secret behind this most recent trade

 

[navamind]

Cashman strongly implies Ellsbury is the odd man out when Hicks returns

"Judge and Frazier have obviously earned the right to be everyday players, and Brett is a rock for us"


Im really starting to feel like a Sandoval could happen

http://nypost.com/2017/07/21/cashman-yankees-will-send-frazier-out-when-hicks-returns/

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They should also specify which Frazier.

 

[navamind]

I knew Ellsbury hasn't been great in NY, but I thought his offensive numbers were a bit better than they were (.258/.324/.361, 84 OPS+ over last 2.5 seasons). He's pretty much Juan Pierre with fewer steals. Sucks he hasn't been able to come close to his 2011 success, that was a great season.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

http://nypost.com/2017/07/21/cashman-yankees-will-send-frazier-out-when-hicks-returns/

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They should also specify which Frazier.

“He has been great and earned everyday playing time,’’ Cashman said of Frazier, who wasn’t in the lineup Thursday night against Felix Hernandez


This is the point on the radio they kept pounding, they never mentioned "Send Frazier out" part.....They did a whole segment speculating on what they do with Ellsbury

Well, Hicks not expected back until mid August, I have a feeling things will change, cant be many worse everyday players in baseball that offer less than Ellsbury

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

I knew Ellsbury hasn't been great in NY, but I thought his offensive numbers were a bit better than they were (.258/.324/.361, 84 OPS+ over last 2.5 seasons). He's pretty much Juan Pierre with fewer steals. Sucks he hasn't been able to come close to his 2011 success, that was a great season.

Stop Acting upset

 

[navamind]

Stop Acting upset

I think everyone knew he was going to be a free agent and the Yankees were going to sign him. It wasn't the same as Damon saying he'd "never play for the Yankees" (I'm over that), I had no real reason to root against Ellsbury. I had no problem rooting for him so long as the Yankees still lost every game.

 

[PolarVortex]

Betances 100% getting traded this offseason, the hidden secret behind this most recent trade

Have you thought that through? Robertson is only controllable through next season. And, although still nasty, Chapman is already in career decline. When his fastball tops out at 94 instead of 102, he won't be as effective. And those days are coming sooner rather than later. Betances is controllable through 2019.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

I think everyone knew he was going to be a free agent and the Yankees were going to sign him. It wasn't the same as Damon saying he'd "never play for the Yankees" (I'm over that), I had no real reason to root against Ellsbury. I had no problem rooting for him so long as the Yankees still lost every game.

Ellsbury being swapped for Robbie will probably go down as Cashmans' worst moment as GM

They were definitely scared to give Cano a 10 year deal because of his propensity to be a bit of a dog

They were wrong

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Have you thought that through? Robertson is only controllable through next season. And, although still nasty, Chapman is already in career decline. When his fastball tops out at 94 instead of 102, he won't be as effective. And those days are coming sooner rather than later. Betances is controllable through 2019.

I know they like this guy they got from the White Sox, who was projected as their future closer...I agree completely on Chapman, but either way, he's locked in for 5 years.......They are never paying Betances closer money, something he will seek, and something he wants to do, while Chapman is still on the roster, and still in need of a young controllable starter this winter, Betances being the centerpiece of any type of deal like that, makes too much sense....And a few other random factors, like he has worn down in August and Sept the past 2 seasons, has shows signs of a lotta inconsistency this season, and a little bit of bad blood during his arbitration situation this past winter........Id be really surprised if he isnt moved

 

[navamind]

Ellsbury being swapped for Robbie will probably go down as Cashmans' worst moment as GM

They were definitely scared to give Cano a 10 year deal because of his propensity to be a bit of a dog

They were wrong

That contract could still go down the shitter, but it has worked out pretty well so far. He is having his worst offensive season since 2008 right now (a 115 OPS+ is still quite good for a 2B)

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

That contract could still go down the shitter, but it has worked out pretty well so far. He is having his worst offensive season since 2008 right now (a 115 OPS+ is still quite good for a 2B)

It will go down the shitter, any 10 year deal for a 30 year old always will...........But inserting him between Judge and Sanchez for the next 2-3 seasons, could have paid dividends that would have made it worth it

My original thinking at the time (and I said the entire summer of 2013 they werent signing him), was that Cano was the victim of the Yankees having too many ugly looking long term deals on the books, and they wouldnt do another one....Than out of the blue, the senseless Ellsbury deal

 

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Ellsbury being swapped for Robbie will probably go down as Cashmans' worst moment as GM

Wrong

 

[PolarVortex]

It will go down the shitter, any 10 year deal for a 30 year old always will...........But inserting him between Judge and Sanchez for the next 2-3 seasons, could have paid dividends that would have made it worth it

My original thinking at the time (and I said the entire summer of 2013 they werent signing him), was that Cano was the victim of the Yankees having too many ugly looking long term deals on the books, and they wouldnt do another one....Than out of the blue, the senseless Ellsbury deal

Proto changed his team name in honor of your Innings Pitched fiasco.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Proto changed his team name in honor of your Innings Pitched fiasco.

LMAO

What is it?

 

[packerzrule]

How can you hate this man?

easily - he is wearing a Yankees uniform