My Take On Penn State

[redseat]

2002 USC comes to mind.

Forgot about them

 

[TheRobotDevil]

You do realize PSU also had a FG blocked and a fumbled punt? OSU also got the ball back after the block6 with over 4 minutes left to score...and didn't.

Games are 60 minutes long. When a blocked Field goal is a referred to as a fluke play

 

[Robotech]

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS SO HARD FOR SOME OF YOU.

If you don't win your division, YOU AREN'T THE BEST TEAM IN YOUR CONFERENCE. PERIOD.

OSU and Michigan on paper look great. They both BLEW THEIR CHANCES. That's THEIR FAULT.

The B1G got it right.....there is NOTHING wrong with the system. The issue is morons out here that want to reward their favorite programs that DID NOT EARN title shots on the field.

Yeah, I totally agree. I understand that Ohio State and Michigan would win a beauty contest against Penn State any day of the week, but when it came to making it to the conference championship game under the B1G's rules, it was Penn State who made it and won it. The results on the field should've been given more weight than rankings and statistics because all three of those teams had an equal opportunity to win the B1G.

If the committee would've put both PSU and OSU, I could agree with that because there is logic to saying that 2 of the best, most deserving teams could come from the same conference and that both of them are better than the conference champions of two or more conferences. I just don't see the logic in putting in a team over their own conference champion who also beat them head to head. The committee's decision was the expected one, but I still feel that it is illogical.

 

[Robotech]

There shouldn't be a system that rewards blue bloods and the eye test. Taking the two best teams for a conference championship would completely take away from on field results mattering. Penn State would've been left out of the conference championship despite beating Ohio State and having one loss in conference, to Michigan.

Rematches won't settle anything.

I know Virginia Tech and Colorado earned a chance to compete in their title game, however we would've had two rematches if we let the conference just pick two teams. Teams need to be able able to compete for something.

Spot on. We're better off if rankings mattered less, not more. Every team should have an equal opportunity to win their conference. Each team controls their destiny with regard to conference championships, and that's the way it should be. If we bring rankings into it, then each team would have to campaign to make it into their conference championship game the way teams campaign to make the CFP and campaigned to make the BCS title game.

 

[mannyz]

You're right. A guy that hadn't missed a FG all season gets one blocked and returned for a TD isn't a fluke play. Just the game deciding points, nothing big.

And the possession before, the punt being blocked from a guy that hadn't had a punt blocked his entire career at Ohio State prior. Nah, nothing fluky about that.

You OSU fans do not want to recognize that Special Teams are part of the game. OSU lost. They should not be playing for a National Championship.

 

[fishinabarrel]

Yeah, I totally agree. I understand that Ohio State and Michigan would win a beauty contest against Penn State any day of the week, but when it came to making it to the conference championship game under the B1G's rules, it was Penn State who made it and won it. The results on the field should've been given more weight than rankings and statistics because all three of those teams had an equal opportunity to win the B1G.

If the committee would've put both PSU and OSU, I could agree with that because there is logic to saying that 2 of the best, most deserving teams could come from the same conference and that both of them are better than the conference champions of two or more conferences. I just don't see the logic in putting in a team over their own conference champion who also beat them head to head. The committee's decision was the expected one, but I still feel that it is illogical.

The only way you can say everyone has an equal opportunity to win a conference is if they are played twice at each team's house, which obviously can't be done in college footballs setup.

There were 3 other teams ranked in the top ten of the Big 10. Ohio State played two of them away after they had bye weeks. Penn State didn't play one and got killed by the other when they played then away. Things aren't always as cut and dry as they seem

 

[Tharvot]

You OSU fans do not want to recognize that Special Teams are part of the game. OSU lost. They should not be playing for a National Championship.

Well, good thing your opinion counts for dick.

 

[PIBuckeye]

You OSU fans do not want to recognize that Special Teams are part of the game. OSU lost. They should not be playing for a National Championship.

BS.

no team with 2 losses, one to an unranked opponent, and the other being a 40 pt. loss should be.

 

[Across The Field]

LOL at anyone who is so ignorant to think this is about "blue bloods". It's about one team being better over the course of an ENTIRE SEASON:

Team A:
SOS: 7
Losses - 1 (by 3 points)
Top 10 wins - 3 (2 on the road)
Scoring offense - 9th nationally
Scoring defense - 3rd nationally

Team B:
SOS: 16
Losses - 2 (one by 39 points)
Top 10 wins - 2 (0 on the road)
Scoring offense - 26th nationally
Scoring defense - 35th nationally

But please, keep crying.

 

[8085sooner]

I think most people would agree, if tOSU and PSU lined up 10 times, tOSU would win 8.

 

[mannyz]

I think most people would agree, if tOSU and PSU lined up 10 times, tOSU would win 8.

That is all well and good, but, PSU won when it counted.

 

[Craig24]

I think most people would agree, if tOSU and PSU lined up 10 times, tOSU would win 8.

 

[fishinabarrel]

That is all well and good, but, PSU won when it counted.

They did and props to them for that. Many Ohio State fans have stated that it would have been ok had Penn State gone. However, it is also ok for the committee to decide one loss doesn't ruin a teams season cause that loss happened to be to another good team that was also competing for the division and not some unranked team with multiple losses

 

[fishinabarrel]

The only way you can say everyone has an equal opportunity to win a conference is if they are played twice at each team's house, which obviously can't be done in college footballs setup.

There were 3 other teams ranked in the top ten of the Big 10. Ohio State played two of them away after they had bye weeks. Penn State didn't play one and got killed by the other when they played then away. Things aren't always as cut and dry as they seem

Edit: Penn State missed Wisky during the regular season

 

[PIBuckeye]

That is all well and good, but, PSU won when it counted.

BS.

Thank God the committee had the intelligence to realize that OSU played 1 bad QUARTER of 1 game that lost them the game on a fluke play.

while, PSU had 4 bad quarters against Michigan, and 3 bad quarters against Pitt.

Yea, they should be in over OSU.

 

[mannyz]

BS.

Thank God the committee had the intelligence to realize that OSU played 1 bad QUARTER of 1 game that lost them the game on a fluke play.

while, PSU had 4 bad quarters against Michigan, and 3 bad quarters against Pitt.

Yea, they should be in over OSU.

You can justify it all you want, but why do they even bother with a Conference Championship, besides the money it generates?

 

[PIBuckeye]

You can justify it all you want, but why do they even bother with a Conference Championship, besides the money it generates?

I'm not trying to justify anything, just trying to open up some skulls full of mush and let some reality and facts get in.......

The funny thing is, PSU (and those defending them) should have more of a gripe with Washington than it does with OSU. that's where the real debate lies.

 

[Robotech]

The only way you can say everyone has an equal opportunity to win a conference is if they are played twice at each team's house, which obviously can't be done in college footballs setup.

There were 3 other teams ranked in the top ten of the Big 10. Ohio State played two of them away after they had bye weeks. Penn State didn't play one and got killed by the other when they played then away. Things aren't always as cut and dry as they seem

Okay, I'll agree that it's not equal chance and obviously most teams have the odds against them due to the top teams recruiting the best talent, but the great thing about conference championships is that everyone starts with a clean slate and have full control of their destiny to win their conference, not having to worry about rankings and popularity contests to get in and win their conference championship.

 

[bonham]

BS.

no team with 2 losses, one to an unranked opponent, and the other being a 40 pt. loss should be.

Pitt is ranked. But I do agree the two losses are enough to keep Penn State out over a one loss team

 

[fishinabarrel]

Pitt is ranked. But I do agree the two losses are enough to keep Penn State out over a one loss team

I find it funny how most of the Penn State and Ohio State fans seem to agree that both teams were deserving and there was not a wrong choice. It's fans of unrelated teams that seem the most pissed off