Andre Roberts

[gkekoa]

You quoted me and seem to have completely missed my point. That's probably a sign that we should end the discussion now.

I understand your point but your point is a silly one. You asked about a category that has the leader with one catch on the season because he isn't really a part of the Buffalo offense. I showed you categories that matter because you actually need to be a part of the offense to get these stats...receptions, yards, and TDs. Garcon ranked like a high to middle #2 WR in those categories.

 

[ehb5]

Obviously I disagree with those numbers - which is okay.

All of cousins ints are available online. Please show me which ones were Garcons fault since according to you "a lot" were.

 

[Ruzious]

Remember you also called out Garcon for not having that many TD catches. I showed you that some of the best WRs in the NFL also don't have that many TD catches (since it is based on a lot of factors that a WR can't control). I also showed you that Jackson usually also has very few TD catches during any given year.

I guess that the main pt is that you are being overly critical of Garcon for some reason & most of us are not part of the Pierre Garcon fan club - we simply view him as one of several good assets for the Redskins offense (at this time - could easily change in a season or two).

I understand your point but your point is a silly one. You asked about a category that has the leader with one catch on the season because he isn't really a part of the Buffalo offense. I showed you categories that matter because you actually need to be a part of the offense to get these stats...receptions, yards, and TDs. Garcon ranked like a high to middle #2 WR in those categories.

All of cousins ints are available online. Please show me which ones were Garcons fault since according to you "a lot" were.

PARTIALLY his fault. For example, when a WR can prevent an int and doesn't, the int is partially his fault. I'm out of this discussion - don't have time.

 

[ehb5]

PARTIALLY his fault. For example, when a WR can prevent an int and doesn't, the int is partially his fault. I'm out of this discussion - don't have time.

Exactly. I'd love for you to show me which ones cuz I don't think you can. You said "a lot". Cousins only threw 11 ints last year, I'd love to see which ones were "partially" PGs fault.

 

[Sportster 72]

The only people that know who is at fault when it comes to an INT are the QB, WR and appropriate coaches. Anyone else is blowing smoke. We call take guesses and some are educated guesses but none of us really know.

 

[ehb5]

The only people that know who is at fault when it comes to an INT are the QB, WR and appropriate coaches. Anyone else is blowing smoke. We call take guesses and some are educated guesses but none of us really know.

I mean to an extent I guess. But it's really not hard in 90% of cases to tell who screwed up. There are always exceptions but they're just that - exceptions.

 

[Sportster 72]

You can take an educated guess but you do not know. How many times have you seen a coach after a game say so and so did the wrong thing and most of a fan base blame the coach for defending his QB.

Tell me how you assign blame when there is an option route that a QB reads one way and the receiver reads the other. Oops, I thought you were going to be there, not there.

 

[Breed]

The only INT I'll say was PG's fault beyond any doubt was the one against NE. Where he let an on target Cuz pass go straight through his hands and hit him in the facemask, pop up in the air and was promptly INTed. That was a damn good pass and a damn bad game for Skins pass catchers all around. As Cuz had several on the money passes dropped by multiple players.

If any games start out in 2016 like the NE game did. I hope Cuz gets dead in the ass of the player who makes the first fuck up. Not saying the Skins should've won that game or anything, but Cuz played much better than the stats or the final score will indicate.

 

[Breed]

Tell me how you assign blame when there is an option route that a QB reads one way and the receiver reads the other. Oops, I thought you were going to be there, not there.

If the QB throws an INT directly to a defender with his option. While the WR is being guarded by nothing, but blades of grass and his jockstrap with his option. I'll say the QB messed up.

If the WR runs right into a defender, while the QB puts a pass into nothing, but grass and the grass has all kinds of room to run. I'll blame the WR.

 

[Sportster 72]

Look at the Atlanta game. The INT that ended the game. Did Grant slip? Did he stop or turn in? Should he have gone out where Cousins threw it? We as fans can't always tell.

 

[ehb5]

Look at the Atlanta game. The INT that ended the game. Did Grant slip? Did he stop or turn in? Should he have gone out where Cousins threw it? We as fans can't always tell.

I don't think anybody is saying you can always tell. But on the vast majority you can be 99% sure. Obviously there are exceptions.