CBS DC (via Ian Rappoport): Redskins Not Ruling Out Trading Kirk Cousins

[redskinsfan]

Reports: Redskins Haven't Ruled Out Trading Kirk Cousins or RG3

Normally, I wouldn't post this type of wild rumor, which, based on what I know of the situation, is just about 100% BS. But it's coming from a respected reporter (Ian Rappoport). Having said that, I have no idea where he got his info, and this conflicts with another CBS DC story that states that Cuz is getting tagged.

Whatever the case may be, pay the guy. Or at least put the tag on him and cut RGIII if you can't trade him by this weekend.

 

[Sharkinva]

Reports: Redskins Haven't Ruled Out Trading Kirk Cousins or RG3

Normally, I wouldn't post this type of wild rumor, which, based on what I know of the situation, is just about 100% BS. But it's coming from a respected reporter (Ian Rappoport). Having said that, I have no idea where he got his info, and this conflicts with another CBS DC story that states that Cuz is getting tagged.

Whatever the case may be, pay the guy. Or at least put the tag on him and cut RGIII if you can't trade him by this weekend.

They cant actually trade Griffin until the 9th. They could cut him but I believe teams cant even do that until the 1st.

Until this is all cleared up, that sinking feeling n my gut that they will screw this up some how just isn't going to go away.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

This sounds exactly like the statement that SM made earlier in the year stating that the Redskins would not rule out keeping RG3 on the team for next season. This sounds like BS being used as a negotiating ploy to keep down the price on Cousins extension.

 

[deanpet21]

IF we ever traded KC in favor of RG3 their would be fan revolt. I am so sick of this nonsense.

 

[Sharkinva]

IF we ever traded KC in favor of RG3 their would be fan revolt. I am so sick of this nonsense.

There is a portion of the fanbase out there still holding out hope on this happening exactly like that.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

There is a portion of the fanbase out there still holding out hope on this happening exactly like that.

Yep & as you know they are a small percentage of the fan base. They are more than welcome to follow RG3 to the Rams, Browns, etc. Many of them have already let their feelings be known about how much the Redskins, Gruden & Cousins will suck moving forward. Good riddance.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

IF we ever traded KC in favor of RG3 their would be fan revolt. I am so sick of this nonsense.

Chill out. This is IMO classic redirection by the Redskins to throw off the media as well as a negotiating ploy by the FO. No way in hell do the Redskins dump Cousins and retain RG3.

 

[skinz2winz]

Bottom line is, Cousins and his agent over values himself. RG3 will not help or facilitate any kind of trade so he will be released before March 9th. Best thing to do would be transition tag Cousins and let him test the market. We will have first right of refusal. Let Cousins see how much other teams think he is worth.

According to some analyst, Cousins is a mediocre QB who's team won the NFCE by default which the latter is actually true. Cousins has a lot to prove as his body of work is so small however, paying him $20M for one year is not something the REDSKINS want to do. They have a team to fill out and accommodating one player doesn't help the cause. A long term deal is still the goal and helps everyone but I'm not sure Cousins or his agent is willing to cooperate.

 

[Sharkinva]

Bottom line is, Cousins and his agent over values himself. RG3 will not help or facilitate any kind of trade so he will be released before March 9th. Best thing to do would be transition tag Cousins and let him test the market. We will have first right of refusal. Let Cousins see how much other teams think he is worth.

According to some analyst, Cousins is a mediocre QB who's team won the NFCE by default which the latter is actually true. Cousins has a lot to prove as his body of work is so small however, paying him $20M for one year is not something the REDSKINS want to do. They have a team to fill out and accommodating one player doesn't help the cause. A long term deal is still the goal and helps everyone but I'm not sure Cousins or his agent is willing to cooperate.

So I'll bite. We use the transition tag and he actually DOES get $20 million a year from some one else. We dont want to pay that... what do we do then?? As we didnt want to match it, we let him walk. We then can not use the transition tag again untilthe contract he signed elsewhere expires, we get nothing in return, and we have also released RG3 because Kirk cant look for a new deal until the 9th and RG3 has to be release by then.

 

[redskinsfan]

So I'll bite. We use the transition tag and he actually DOES get $20 million a year from some one else. We dont want to pay that... what do we do then?? As we didnt want to match it, we let him walk. We then can not use the transition tag again untilthe contract he signed elsewhere expires, we get nothing in return, and we have also released RG3 because Kirk cant look for a new deal until the 9th and RG3 has to be release by then.

This is when Sty can offer up his suggestions as to who could replace Cuz. There are, according to him, plenty of QBs that could replicate his production this year and for a far cheaper price.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

So I'll bite. We use the transition tag and he actually DOES get $20 million a year from some one else. We dont want to pay that... what do we do then?? As we didnt want to match it, we let him walk. We then can not use the transition tag again untilthe contract he signed elsewhere expires, we get nothing in return, and we have also released RG3 because Kirk cant look for a new deal until the 9th and RG3 has to be release by then.

True but I see no way that it gets to this pt. At worst - the FO basically admits that they played poker and lost & pay the $20 M. Again - my guess is that they will somehow transfer whatever they give him into a long term extension sometime in the offseason. They are simply playing poker rt now & using the media to further their agenda.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

This is when Sty can offer up his suggestions as to who could replace Cuz. There are, according to him, plenty of QBs that could replicate his production this year and for a far cheaper price.

LOL. Yep McCarron can probably be had straight up for Cousins & can probably be signed long term for about $6M per season.

 

[countryroads316]

I said this a long time ago they will place the non exclusive franchise tag on him that way they can at least 2 first round picks out of him

 

[deanpet21]

ITs a smart play money wise for the Redskins to place the transition tag on KC. Very doubtful that a team in FA offers KC 20 mil annually per season. I believe the SKins will match any offer that a team would present making the Skins pay far less than to franchise tag him or give him a long term deal right now. I totally forgot about the transition tag. That makes a lot of sense to place the transition tag on him. 1st we cant lose him. 2nd he will not get the money that he is asking right now in FA.

 

[deanpet21]

Plus who has the cap room to pay KC 20 mil per season? The transition tag is the way to go. If KC was smart he should know that SM's long term deal offered now is going to be better than what he will get in FA. So not the leverage shifts to SM. Forget the franchise tag.

 

[deanpet21]

I thought he would have to sign with us if we matched the FA teams offer? That is the whole point of the transition tag.

A transition tag is a tool used by National Football League teams to retain unrestricted free agents. It guarantees the original club the right of first refusal to match any offer the player may make with another team


You are wrong country

 

[Sharkinva]

Plus who has the cap room to pay KC 20 mil per season? The transition tag is the way to go. If KC was smart he should know that SM's long term deal offered now is going to be better than what he will get in FA. So not the leverage shifts to SM. Forget the franchise tag.

The Browns, Texans, Chiefs and Rams all could afford to pay him $20 million annually. And you have to realize, on a long term deal his cap hit over the next two seasons likely WONT be $20 million. If we trans tag him, there are teams who could write him a deal we might not want to match and still not go crazy. I agree, if we give him the non exclusive tag, a team MIGHT not want to part with two first round picks.

But the two firsts is just a starting point. Teams HAVE gotten franchise players for less. Say Manning does retire, would every one be drooling over the 31st pick and an undetermined first rounder next year also realizing we would basically be using one of those picks on a rookie QB??

 

[SoCalWizFan]

I thought he would have to sign with us if we matched the FA teams offer? That is the whole point of the transition tag.

A transition tag is a tool used by National Football League teams to retain unrestricted free agents. It guarantees the original club the right of first refusal to match any offer the player may make with another team


You are wrong country

Redskins could use transition tag on Kirk Cousins

This should clear it up. See the section on the right explaining the differences between the Exclusive Franchise tag, Non-Exclusive Franchise tag & the Transition tag.

 

[deanpet21]

The Browns are drafting a QB at #2. The Chiefs have Smith. Im not sure the Texans and Rams have the cap room to make a move for KC. Even if they do they will not offer KC the money he wants. The SKins can match what they offer. So there is no risk.

 

[Sharkinva]

I thought he would have to sign with us if we matched the FA teams offer? That is the whole point of the transition tag.

A transition tag is a tool used by National Football League teams to retain unrestricted free agents. It guarantees the original club the right of first refusal to match any offer the player may make with another team


You are wrong country

Actually Country is right. First refusal means we can match exactly the contract he is offered by another team. BUt if we choose not to match we get nothing in return. We also lose the right to use the transition tag until his contract expires. And as we had the ability to retain him via the transition tag, and chose not to, we also would not qualify for a comp pick in 2017 based on him going to a new team.