Waiver wire ?, Which is better in your opinion? Waivers that reset every week or ones that roll...

[VikingsAD28]

over week to week?

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I prefer rolling... But i like adding strategy to everything....

 

[averagejoe]

The waiver order that resets to help the worst team is the most fair in my opinion.

But if you have a decent team that loses a key player and need to replace him, the waiver could kill you.
Any option has its flaws. But a worst-to-first reset keeps all teams competitive.

 

[tlance]

The waiver order that resets to help the worst team is the most fair in my opinion.

But if you have a decent team that loses a key player and need to replace him, the waiver could kill you.
Any option has its flaws. But a worst-to-first reset keeps all teams competitive.

I disagree. I actually think this is horribly unfair.

Waiver adds are a huge part of building a winning team. Just because you start off well does not mean you should be out of the running for grabbing the top players. Resetting lists ensure parity, but that is the opposite of fair. If you assembled a team of All the top waiver adds this year, it would crush any team built primarily through the draft. Amy system that allows the same people to stay near the top of the order is a bad system.

Rolling waiver priority gives every owner an equal chance. You decide whether to use the waiver claim or not and preserve your spot at the top. There is much more strategy involved and you are not simply rewarding teams for being bad.

The best way, however is FAAB.

 

[Cobrabit]

Rolling is my preferred method because it does add overall strategy. I've personally held onto the top waiver spot for several weeks in the event one of my starters went down and needed his replacement. While I agree that resetting each week should help keep parity within the league, it really isn't that fair to teams that drafted well and has a slew of injuries the week or two before the playoffs.

 

[TREFF]

I'm with Joe..worst to first, reset every week. It's the way every major sports league does it, and since no way is perfect, every way has a flaw, I stick with what works for a multi billion dollar industry. Seems foolish to me to think we'd know better

 

[SteelersPride]

The waiver order that resets to help the worst team is the most fair in my opinion.

But if you have a decent team that loses a key player and need to replace him, the waiver could kill you.
Any option has its flaws. But a worst-to-first reset keeps all teams competitive.

i disagree.....

a team that sucks in the draft and loses regularly gets the oppurtunity to have a decent team fall into their lap...injuries and such, the players are just handed to them........i had a league last year, where an owner was very drunk at the draft and did horrible, his team was atrocious, lost 4 straight, and was blown out each time, and started putting together waiver claim, after claim, getting top priority for weeks on end.....and he squeeked into the playoffs and finished second with his waiver wonder squad.......its crap, meanwhile the top team suffered some injuries and suffered due to NEVER getting a waiver claim........

so the guy who nailed the draft lost, the drunk won........it rewards those who screw up the draft

 

[TREFF]

i disagree.....

a team that sucks in the draft and loses regularly gets the oppurtunity to have a decent team fall into their lap...injuries and such, the players are just handed to them........i had a league last year, where an owner was very drunk at the draft and did horrible, his team was atrocious, lost 4 straight, and was blown out each time, and started putting together waiver claim, after claim, getting top priority for weeks on end.....and he squeeked into the playoffs and finished second with his waiver wonder squad.......its crap, meanwhile the top team suffered some injuries and suffered due to NEVER getting a waiver claim........

so the guy who nailed the draft lost, the drunk won........it rewards those who screw up the draft

He still had to make the right claims, and the top teams always have the option of grabbing a guy as a free agent between waiver periods..owners who truly deserve to win a competitive league can identify those guys and laugh as everyone looks for that hot waiver pick and then realize he's already gone.

Your argument is valid no doubts, but I choose to accept the challenge of letting the bad teams have the big pickups, and trying to beat them with whatever I can piece together. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. And in general, not always, but in general, if a bad team makes the right pickups, they don't stay bad, which takes them ouT if the cherry waiver spot. .but if they don't, those pick ups fall to what you deem as the "more deserving " team anyways. There's pros and cons to everything, and we've debated this topic for weeks on end, more than once, no one ever convincing the other that thier favorite is the best

 

[TREFF]

Basically what I'm saying is that it doesn't really matter what we think is the best system. .what matters is what system the owners in your league are the most comfortable with, in the end, it's their enjoyment that's at stake, so their opinions are the ones that matter. Make sure to poll your owners before instituting the system you think suits everyone best. .you might be surprised at their answers

 

[SteelersPride]

lol good points

 

[TKOSpikes]

Since I will NEVER be in only one league, I like to mix it up.

 

[SmokingMonkey]

I will be venturing down the FAAB rabbit hole next year in a 12 team, .5ppr + .5 rush/rec 1st down league.

I always preferred the rolling instead of the weekly reset, just as @MilkSpiller22 said, it adds yet another layer of strategy.

Next year's fantasy to-do list:
Auction draft in a money league
FAAB in a money league

*put the money league stipulation on it, since I've seen too many stupid moves/inactivity in free leagues.

 

[TREFF]

The only thing I would add. .FAAB is definitely the best, most fair. ..ASSUMING all owners have an equal understanding of how it works and fully understand the value of the bidding process. If they don't, FAAB greatly favors the owners who have experience with the system. Newbs will always underbid, or blow their wad way too early, and then they're pissed the rest of the season

 

[SmokingMonkey]

The only thing I would add. .FAAB is definitely the best, most fair. ..ASSUMING all owners have an equal understanding of how it works and fully understand the value of the bidding process. If they don't, FAAB greatly favors the owners who have experience with the system. Newbs will always underbid, or blow their wad way too early, and then they're pissed the rest of the season

definitely something to consider.
wasn't planning on letting anyone have any input, but maybe i will talk things over to make sure everyone knows the process.

Good thing most of the guys I play with are familiar with the Great Googler - answers any and all of life's mysteries, including FAAB!

 

[MilkSpiller22]

definitely something to consider.
wasn't planning on letting anyone have any input, but maybe i will talk things over to make sure everyone knows the process.

Good thing most of the guys I play with are familiar with the Great Googler - answers any and all of life's mysteries, including FAAB!

I prefer FAAB for dynasty/keeper leagues though... In a redraft actual value doesn't have much meaning...

 

[tlance]

The only thing I would add. .FAAB is definitely the best, most fair. ..ASSUMING all owners have an equal understanding of how it works and fully understand the value of the bidding process. If they don't, FAAB greatly favors the owners who have experience with the system. Newbs will always underbid, or blow their wad way too early, and then they're pissed the rest of the season

That is true for a year. After you do it once, everybody is more or less on the same page.

My first FAAB league was a 15 team baseball league with bloggers from a bunch of different fantasy sites. Just about everyone had more experience than me. After a couple weeks of seein the patterns, I was 100% comfortable.

Also, I play in 2 FAAB football leagues. In 1, the owners spend their money aggressively, bidding on any usable player. In the other, everyone sits back and waits to blow their load in that 1 big acquisition. Different bid strategies are required to navigate those 2 leagues, so just because someone has played FAAB before does not necessarily give them a big advantage.

 

[Brees#1]

I am considering the roll over after this past year, as Amari Cooper and Desean Jackson fell in one guy's lap and he was able to back into the playoffs which thankfully I ended his run. It will however mean defense and kickers will be harder to claim at the risk of losing the top spot or a high waiver pick on something really important.

 

[Sam Sportboy]

Blind bid....................after bidding it's first come first served.....................

 

[averagejoe]

i disagree.....

a team that sucks in the draft and loses regularly gets the oppurtunity to have a decent team fall into their lap...injuries and such, the players are just handed to them

You make a valid point SP, and I do agree with the logic of it.
But if the owner is that reckless to ruin his own draft, something tells me that he's also the type of owner that will make illogical waiver picks. He'd be the owner to pick up a player based solely on the previous week's results.

 

[tlance]

I'm with Joe..worst to first, reset every week. It's the way every major sports league does it, and since no way is perfect, every way has a flaw, I stick with what works for a multi billion dollar industry. Seems foolish to me to think we'd know better

Treff,

That is an over simplification. I have no problem with leagues who determine draft order based on the previous year's results. That is what every league does. Resetting waivers treats every week like a new season. Pro leagues do not have difference making talent available every week either. It isn't that we know better, it is not an apples to apples comparison. If the goal is to make the game as close to real life football as possible, then we need to have a 32 team league with 50 man rosters.