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I really wish I had a chance to watch the Syracuse Duke game (of the year). I am asking myself:
1) How in the hell did Duke score so much against this defense?? I know they are good, and hit 3's, but my god.
2) How in the FUCK did Duke give up so many points against this offense?? I know their defense is bad but... Every game I have watched 'Cuse they have been abysmal offensively. How did I miss the ONE game they looked good?? (and I know they get fewer possessions each game and have a good efficiency rating, but that rating makes 0 sense to me because when I watch 'Cuse on offense I want to throw up, just like when I watch Arizona without Ashley. It's awful).

I feel like Grant should get a touch on every possession, if he can't figure out a way to jump from the 3 point line for a layup (the guy is a freak) then he should give it to CJ Fair, and if he can't get his shot (he usually does he is so crafty) trevor cooney can throw up a 3 or ennis can create. Seems to me Grant is just so damn under-used...
 

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Unfriggingbelievable. The worst team in the ACC beats the Cuse? Now I've seen everything.
 

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Im not shocked. The Cuse cant score. There offense is pathetic. If it doesnt get better they woint be going far tournament time.
 

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Unfriggingbelievable. The worst team in the ACC beats the Cuse? Now I've seen everything.

you're a few weeks away from seeing UVA win the ACC. Then you'll have seen everything haha (i'm sure they have done it before but I can't remember it happening in my lifetime)
 

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I think a loss is just what the Cuse needed. Seemed like they've been playin tight lately with all the pressure. Now they can relax and start blowin teams out again. Not next game though.
 

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it was bound to happen. Cuse had how many games go into OT already?
 

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it was bound to happen. Cuse had how many games go into OT already?

you're not a "SuperFan" are you? Your boston teams would suggest you might be, but hopefully you are smart and have a BU allegiance...
 

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Teams are slowing the game down and the Cuse has no half court offense at all. Like Ive said numerous times Ennis needs to be more aggressive and that goes for Grant as well. Keep pounding teams inside and try using a full court press here and there for easy baskets but that wont happen. 232nd in offense says it all. 7th in defense is great. C.J. Fair lately has been taking some ugly ass shots and Cooney is way to hot and cold. If Cooney isnt making 3 point shots he is pretty much useless.
 

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you're not a "SuperFan" are you? Your boston teams would suggest you might be, but hopefully you are smart and have a BU allegiance...

Nope, I do not. In fact I am so not a fan of BC or BU. I was just saying that with all the games SU had to go into OT it was bound to happen where they wouldn't get a bounce and lose a game. That goes for any team that was in SU shoes
 

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Teams are slowing the game down and the Cuse has no half court offense at all. Like Ive said numerous times Ennis needs to be more aggressive and that goes for Grant as well. Keep pounding teams inside and try using a full court press here and there for easy baskets but that wont happen. 232nd in offense says it all. 7th in defense is great. C.J. Fair lately has been taking some ugly ass shots and Cooney is way to hot and cold. If Cooney isnt making 3 point shots he is pretty much useless.

Do not listen to the man behind the curtain. DDSS

I deleted the other 500 words I wrote explaining basketball, because I broke it all down last year on the cbs threads when you and a few others thought SU was done going into the dance with 9 losses. Here you are again complaining about a very good team that is banged up.

Read my original post in the 2013/2014 SU BBall thread. I broke this season down back in April of 2013.

This is a very good SU team. I'll say it again....Enjoy it.
 

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From April 22, 2013....SU Basketball 2013/2014 Season


Starting Five:

RAK. Center. 6-9. He better play well because there will be plenty of competition at the Center position.
2012 stats. 12.7 Minutes, 5.1 points, 4.6 rebounds and 1.8 blocks.

Jerami Grant, Power Forward.
2012 stats. 14.3 minutes, 3.9 points, 3.0 rebounds and 0.5 blocks. He really came to play in the Final Four loss to Michigan snagging 7 boards over McGary and adding 4 point in 17 minutes of play.

C.J. Fair, Small Forward. I so hope he returns to SU.
2012 stats. 34.9 minutes, 14.5 points, 7.0 rebounds, 1.0 blocks and 1.1 steals.

Trevor Cooney, Shooting Guard. Despite his shooting struggles, TC provided a lot of solid defense and always played hard. I'm hoping he finds his stroke during the off season.
2012 stats. 11.2 minutes and 3.4 points per game.

Tyler Ennis, Point Guard. The 6'2, 5 star recruit is expect to have just as much ability and potential as any guard SU has had.
2012 stats at St. Benedicts Prep (NJ). 20.8 points, 6.1 assist, 5.1 rebounds and 3.1 steals. I'm sold.

Off the Bench:

Keita. 6-10 and has a motor that won't quit. I like Keita a bunch because he seems better in the big games.
2012 stats: 16.8 minutes, 3.7 points, 1.1 blocks and 3.6 rebounds. But in the Big East tournament he posted 8.3 points and 4.8 rebounds per game.

Coleman. 6-9, 288 pounds. Wow. Struggled in his first year. But I've see it forever at SU...the Bigs take a while to develop.
2012 stats: 12.7 minutes, 4.8 points and 4.0 rebounds.

Michael Gbinije, Guard/Forward. All I know is he is 6-7 and can handle the ball. He is a Duke transfer. Was a 5 star recruit. I expect him to push Cooney, Ennis and even Grant for PT.
No stats for 2012 as he sat out last year.

Tyler Roberson, Small Forward. 6-8, 210 pound beast is SU most touted recruit in the 2013 class. There is so much depth on the baseline....I'm just not sure how he gets in the game. I don't see him redshirting though....and I expect to see him get minutes like Grant did in the 2012 season.
2012 stats at Roselle Catholic (NJ, 17.5 points, 11.7 rebounds and 3.3 blocks

Ron Patterson, Shooting Guard. Another one I know nothing of. He was highly recruited and committed to IU....went to school a little bit and left. I don't think he could handle the education requirements because he ended up enrolling at Brewster Academy (NH) before committing to SU.

B.J.Johnson. Yep...SU's got a Bad Johnson. At 6-7, he seems to be the prototypical Coach JB 2-3 zone player. Tall, lanky and athletic. I don't see him sniffing the court this year, but expect we will see him down the road a piece.

Chinonso Obokoh....pronounced Chee-No-so Oh-Bow-koh. That's all I know about him.

The 2013 - 2014 version of SU is so much like last years team. SU will lose a ton of scoring and will re-load. This is another one of those teams that is built to be sucessful during a tournament. I expect another mid season grind where the constent pounding wears them down and they drop some games. But come tournament time, thier length and bulk down low will give everyone fits. I expect a very deep run in the ACC and the NCAA tournamentss.

I think it's going to be a great year.
 

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jonvi, I used to hear these arguments all the time with other Duke fans. "Is it better to lose 7, 8, 9 games and develop a bench so to make a deep run in the Tourney and get better for next season, or would you rather lose just a couple games regular season but lose early in the Tourney because someone gets hurt or in foul trouble against the wrong opponent because you only have a seven player rotation?". Enjoy the season. It beats the alternative.
 
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