Nets 9-1

[Sackataters]

In the last 10. So, does that make D Will the name for a female dog? When he doesn't like someone, do you think he just becomes an unbearable pouty child? Avery goes and all of a sudden, they can play?

Just wondering.

 

[MHSL82]

In the last 10. So, does that make D Will the name for a female dog? When he doesn't like someone, do you think he just becomes an unbearable pouty child? Avery goes and all of a sudden, they can play?

Just wondering.

Yes. And he'll grow to dislike everyone eventually, in turn. Just my opinion. Carlisimo is good, but so was Sloan. Once DW gets blamed for any struggles (and all teams struggle from time to time), he'll consider doing it again and maybe he will. I do think he was put on notice when people noticed the Avery fire and then linked it to the Sloan "resigning". So I expect him on good behavior until next season or the next. (No, I don't expect them to win anything in the playoffs besides maybe a series or two.)

If we had just had Sloan's back, we would still have him. I think the FO didn't know what they were doing. They were so focused one minute on keeping Williams, that they took Sloan for granted or pushed him out. Once he was gone, they realized they weren't keeping Williams and traded him. It was cutting the nose to spite the face.

 

[Sackataters]

Yes. And he'll grow to dislike everyone eventually, in turn. Just my opinion. Carlisimo is good, but so was Sloan. Once DW gets blamed for any struggles (and all teams struggle from time to time), he'll consider doing it again and maybe he will. I do think he was put on notice when people noticed the Avery fire and then linked it to the Sloan "resigning". So I expect him on good behavior until next season or the next. (No, I don't expect them to win anything in the playoffs besides maybe a series or two.)

If we had just had Sloan's back, we would still have him. I think the FO didn't know what they were doing. They were so focused one minute on keeping Williams, that they took Sloan for granted or pushed him out. Once he was gone, they realized they weren't keeping Williams and traded him. It was cutting the nose to spite the face.

I wish the real story would come out about what happened with Jerry, the Millers, and Deron that night. Jerry's system made Deron a quality PG. I know Deron has some chip on his shoulder about not measuring up. He went to the big city to get notoriety. But, I think SLC was more suited to his stormy personality. Here, it wouldn't be center stage...the FO hid it well here.

 

[MHSL82]

OT: I heard someone say that a certain action was "literally cutting the nose to spite the face" and so I asked, so was there blood everywhere? And I remarked that I didn't think you could cut the nose with that instrument. The person just looked at me and asked what blood? I said, you know, from literally cutting the nose. It's suffice to say that we're not friends. Apparently, that was literally too annoying of me. It was just a joke, and if he got it, it wouldn't have been so awkward. I didn't feel the need to tell him it was a joke because I thought that was obvious. Apparently, that literally went over his head. Or was it literally going through one ear and out the other? I should check with him.

Just a pet peeve of me when people don't understand the words they say. (Like "could care less" when it's "couldn't care less" because if you could care less, then you care some, which is the opposite of what you are trying to say. No, people aren't trying to be ironic, they're just repeating it how they heard it.)

 

[MHSL82]

I wish the real story would come out about what happened with Jerry, the Millers, and Deron that night. Jerry's system made Deron a quality PG. I know Deron has some chip on his shoulder about not measuring up. He went to the big city to get notoriety. But, I think SLC was more suited to his stormy personality. Here, it wouldn't be center stage...the FO hid it well here.

Me too. I hate that every d**n thing is f***ing filtered through PR and PC s**t, as if we're some a**h**e that doesn't deserve to know the ******* truth.

I mean, I would gratefully appreciate if matters weren't handled in a matter that does not allow the fan-base to know about events that have an effect on the franchise and the respectable reputations of those we care about in such a degree.

 

[Sackataters]

Me too. I hate that every d**n thing is f***ing filtered through PR and PC s**t, as if we're some a**h**e that doesn't deserve to know the ******* truth.

I mean, I would gratefully appreciate if matters weren't handled in a matter that does not allow the fan-base to know about events that have an effect on the franchise and the respectable reputations of those we care about in such a degree.

Yeah, but we'll never know because Jerry takes the high road...all the more reason to respect him. I wonder what it is like for him to sit there as a fan and a spectator. As I said in the other thread, he was in the stands tonight. He has been several times this year. I wonder if the Millers have offered him a role there.

 

[nuraman00]

In the last 10. So, does that make D Will the name for a female dog? When he doesn't like someone, do you think he just becomes an unbearable pouty child? Avery goes and all of a sudden, they can play?

Just wondering.

I think you're giving Deron too much credit. Just because the Nets won a little more, it doesn't mean Deron played much better. It's a team game, and I think moving Reggie Evans into the lineup the past 20 games, as well as Joe Johnson playing better, has contributed more to winning. But they're not playing that much better, they just won a few close ones.

I think Williams comments about the Nets offense isn't why they fired Avery Johnson. Prokhorov fired Johnson because the Nets were losing.

So, I don't think Deron is why they were losing before (it takes 5-8 guys to lose), nor win (altering the starting lineup and getting more toughness, as well as Joe Johnson, are bigger factors IMO).

And 9-1 isn't that impressive, considering 7 of the games were against teams -.500.

I've also seen all kinds of teams have stretches similar to 9-1.

Remember when the Magic were 13-4 to start 2006-2007? They finished .488.

Seattle once went 8-2 in 2002-2003. They also finished .488.

Having a good streak during a 10 game stretch, doesn't mean much. One thing about the NBA schedule is that you can't hide what you are. You play 82 games, and against every team in the league, not a smaller amount like football.

Did you know those bad Knicks teams from 2007 once won 5 games in a row?

The Nets look like a deep and decent offensive team, but Reggie Evans and Joe Johnson are probably their best defenders, and I don't think that's good enough for them to be contenders. Maybe they had a good stretch because they went against teams that don't offer resistance either.

Also keep in mind that perhaps Johnson wasn't a good coach for their roster. I liked the way he coached the Mavs in 2006, but he lost me in 2007 when he changed his starting lineup at the beginning of the GS series in the playoffs. It's not so much that the Mavs lost to GS, but that he changed his lineup before playing a game. And I thought he underused Marquis Daniels during the 2006 playoffs, and Finals. Daniels was shutting down Wade during those stints that he played.

I can tell that Carlisle is a much better coach, even for an average Mavs team, than Johnson was the last year he coached the Mavs.

So, what I'm saying is that I'm in a wait-and-see mode with Johnson too, to see what kind of a coach he is. He does some things ok, but not others, and he's had some poor results on the big stage too.

If you look at the Nets starting lineup, Carlesimo took over on game # 29, and Reggie Evans was made a fixture in the starting lineup in game # 32.

2012-13 Brooklyn Nets Starting Lineups | Basketball-Reference.com

So, you can say that Carlesimo's altering of the starting lineup, specifically inserting Reggie Evans, had as much to do with their recent uptick than the PG. But I still need to see if it lasts, and if they're really tough enough defensively. The Nets problems before weren't as much about offensive, even if their PG wasn't playing that well. It was more about size and toughness on the interior. Lopez isn't a good rebounder, so perhaps having Reggie in there, where all he does is rebound, balances things out. Despite their PG's troubles, I had thought that their offensive overall had been decent enough.