Conferences wins and losses

[HawkeyesRuleURFace]

As usual, the Big 12 is quietly winning all their games.......but when we discuss the best conferences, nobody wants to admit the Big 12 is arguably the second best conference in the nation.

They are this year...years past that hasn't been the case...the Big 12 is like the Big 10...when Oklahoma and Texas are down the rest of the conference is down just like when tOSU and Michigan are down

 

[yeodonie]

Actually, according to the four letter network rankings, the B12 is first.

Yep, I was going to say the same thing.

ESPiN has Big XII, SEC, PAC 10 and wayyyyyy down the rest.

 

[ForkEmBucky]

I likes to keep it old school homey....

 

[starbigd]

They are this year...years past that hasn't been the case...the Big 12 is like the Big 10...when Oklahoma and Texas are down the rest of the conference is down just like when tOSU and Michigan are down

Last year the Big 12 had what, the best winning percentage in bowls?

 

[ForkEmBucky]

To be fair on that though, two SEC teams played each other.

 

[iowajerms]

Big 12: 21-2 (.9130) *3-1 against AQ
SEC: 22-6 (.7857) *3-4 against AQ
Big Ten: 27-10 (.7297) *4-8 against AQ
Big East: 13-5 (.7222) *4-4 against AQ
ACC: 18-7 (.7200) *4-7 against AQ
Pac 12: 23-9 (.7188) *6-3 against AQ

I corrected the B1G record. They still stand at #2 for OOC winning %. I have ND going 1-1 against B1G, when they beat the B1G twice.

Why is Notre Dame under B1G wins?

Big Ten: 28-9 overall, 22-9 against FBS, 5-7 against AQ
Wins
UNLV; Boise State; Syracuse; Western Michigan; Miami (OH); Northern Illinois; Eastern Michigan; Southern Miss; Northern Iowa; Indiana State; New Hampshire; UCF; UMass; Notre Dame; Central Michigan; Air Force; Vanderbilt; Western Michigan; Arkansas State; Charleston Southern; Eastern Michigan; California, Boston College; Navy; Northern Iowa; UMass; Utah State

Thanks for pointing it out. I'm sure I have other mistakes elsewhere. I just hope it's down to a few.

 

[yeodonie]

Did you remove those two teams that don't belong in the PAC 10?

 

[iowajerms]

Did you remove those two teams that don't belong in the PAC 10?

Here is what it would be if Utah and Colorado wasn't included in Pac 12. Teams that are underlined are ones that played either Utah or Colorado.

Pac 12: 21-5 overall, 15-5 against FBS, 6-3 against AQ

Wins
Northern Colorado; Rice; Northern Arizona; San Jose State; Hawaii; Toledo; San Diego State; Arkansas State; Southern Utah; Eastern Washington; Syracuse; Wisconsin; Fresno State; Nebraska; Illinois; Duke; Oklahoma State; UNLV; Tennessee Tech; Portland State; BYU; South Carolina State; Houston

Losses
BYU; Nevada; Colorado State; Utah State; LSU; Sacramento State; Ohio State; Missouri; Fresno State

Here's what it would be if Pac 12 didn't have Colorado and Utah in their conference.

Big 12: 21-2 (.9130) *3-1 against AQ
Pac 12: 21-5 (.8077) *6-3 against AQ
SEC: 22-6 (.7857) *3-4 against AQ
Big Ten: 27-10 (.7297) *4-8 against AQ
Big East: 13-5 (.7222) *4-4 against AQ
ACC: 18-7 (.7200) *4-7 against AQ

 

[KansasSooner]

Last year the Big 12 had what, the best winning percentage in bowls?

If I remember right they had the best OOC winning % too.

 

[yeodonie]

Thank you. Pretty clear evidence that those jack holes had and have no business being in the PAC 10

 

[KansasSooner]

Thank you. Pretty clear evidence that those jack holes had and have no business being in the PAC 10

Don't know anything about Utah but I have said before the CU is a dead program in all major NCAA sports. Too much shit under Neuheisel and Barnett did them in. It maybe a 10-20 years before they turn it around.

 

[yeodonie]

Don't know anything about Utah but I have said before the CU is a dead program in all major NCAA sports. Too much shit under Neuheisel and Barnett did them in. It maybe a 10-20 years before they turn it around.

Yeah they're killing our conference perception of strength.

Will never figure out WTF Scott was thinking. If we couldn't get OU and Texas than expanding didn't make ANY sense. 10 is the perfect number. You play everyone and get a true champion without a rematch in a stupid CCG.

I'm jealous of the Big XII doing it right now.

 

[iowajerms]

I think the ONLY reason the Pac 12 brought Colorado into the conference was because they get the Denver market. Utah at least is competitive in football.

 

[iowajerms]

Yeah they're killing our conference perception of strength.

Will never figure out WTF Scott was thinking. If we couldn't get OU and Texas than expanding didn't make ANY sense. 10 is the perfect number. You play everyone and get a true champion without a rematch in a stupid CCG.

I'm jealous of the Big XII doing it right now.

I don't mind the CCG to determine the conference champion, I just have the problem with how they deal with he 2nd team. Usually, the CCG loser ends up being the #3 team in the conference. It's almost better to be the division runner-up than the CCG loser.

 

[Volbound1700]

Left off Arizona State for the SEC (Missouri)

 

[yeodonie]

I don't mind the CCG to determine the conference champion, I just have the problem with how they deal with he 2nd team. Usually, the CCG loser ends up being the #3 team in the conference. It's almost better to be the division runner-up than the CCG loser.

Until they do away with divisions you will get 6-6 UCLA vs a team that deserved to be there.

Granted there were exceptional circumstances last year but it's happened in other leagues without those circumstances.

A scrub team can have a great night while a good team has a really off night with some bad breaks and all of a sudden your champ is barely over .500

CCG's are stupid.