How do you think Clemson football would do in the Big Ten Conference?

[saturdaysarebetter]

How do you think Clemson football would do in the Big Ten Conference? Would it improve their recruiting?

How has Clemson football fared against the Big 10?

After the 2023 college football season, there was a lot of talk about Clemson and Florida State wanting to leave the Atlantic Coast Conference for a more lucrative conference, that being either the…

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[dtgold88]

How do you think Clemson football would do in the Big Ten Conference? Would it improve their recruiting?

How has Clemson football fared against the Big 10?

After the 2023 college football season, there was a lot of talk about Clemson and Florida State wanting to leave the Atlantic Coast Conference for a more lucrative conference, that being either the…

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Think now would help them....guessing being in current ACC has hurt in recruiting. Where would they finish with better competition? Don't think OSU level or maybe not current Oregon, but no reason couldn't be next tier with PSU, UM, etc?

 

[Gator]

How do you think Clemson football would do in the Big Ten Conference? Would it improve their recruiting?

How has Clemson football fared against the Big 10?

After the 2023 college football season, there was a lot of talk about Clemson and Florida State wanting to leave the Atlantic Coast Conference for a more lucrative conference, that being either the…

johnbaranowski.wordpress.com

Not a lot of data. Since 2000 Clemson is 3-1 vs Big Ten (all against Ohio State).

Date		Opponent (record)	Result	Score	Site
1/1/2021​	vs.	Ohio State (7-1)	L	28​	49​	@ New Orleans, LA	Sugar Bowl
12/28/2019​	vs.	Ohio State (13-1)	W	29​	23​	@ Glendale, AZ	Fiesta Bowl
12/31/2016​	vs.	Ohio State (11-2)	W	31​	0​	@ Glendale, AZ	Fiesta Bowl
1/3/2014​	vs.	Ohio State (12-2)	W	40​	35​	@ Miami, FL	Orange Bowl

My guess is that IF Clemson leaves the ACC, it will be WITH Miami and FSU as a trio. So, unless the B1G wants to go to 21 teams, Clemson is a no-go to the B1G.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Not a lot of data. Since 2000 Clemson is 3-1 vs Big Ten (all against Ohio State).

Date		Opponent (record)	Result	Score	Site
1/1/2021​	vs.	Ohio State (7-1)	L	28​	49​	@ New Orleans, LA	Sugar Bowl
12/28/2019​	vs.	Ohio State (13-1)	W	29​	23​	@ Glendale, AZ	Fiesta Bowl
12/31/2016​	vs.	Ohio State (11-2)	W	31​	0​	@ Glendale, AZ	Fiesta Bowl
1/3/2014​	vs.	Ohio State (12-2)	W	40​	35​	@ Miami, FL	Orange Bowl

My guess is that IF Clemson leaves the ACC, it will be WITH Miami and FSU as a trio. So, unless the B1G wants to go to 21 teams, Clemson is a no-go to the B1G.

Be careful citing real statistics that reveal OSU failures.. some of the OSU fans on here get really emotional

 

[dtgold88]

Be careful citing real statistics that reveal OSU failures.. some of the OSU fans on here get really emotional

oh, the irony, my friend.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

oh, the irony, my friend.

Feel free to explain that one

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

They would suck. Clemson succeeded by being a football school in a basketball conference. Besides, nobody wants them or Florida State.

 

[dtgold88]

Feel free to explain that one

sure....you seem to ignore the facts surrounding the UM plight and definitely let your emotions get the best of you on the subject.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

sure....you seem to ignore the facts surrounding the UM plight and definitely let your emotions get the best of you on the subject.

If you call not going nuclear on the program as an emotional reaction, guilty as charged. I have non-emotional context-based reasons that I laid out.

 

[rmilia1]

Likely similar to how Penn State has done

 

[dtgold88]

If you call not going nuclear on the program as an emotional reaction, guilty as charged. I have non-emotional context-based reasons that I laid out.

But the "everybody does it" excuse for why should be minimal punishment?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

But the "everybody does it" excuse for why should be minimal punishment?

I like for the same general rules for all yes. If stealing signs is bad, then make a rule to completely eliminate it. You can’t have “it’s okay here but not here”

 

[dtgold88]

I like for the same general rules for all yes. If stealing signs is bad, then make a rule to completely eliminate it. You can’t have “it’s okay here but not here”

Hoefully now you know why you got the "oh, the irony" reply.

FYI, there are some rules to eliminate it or at least rules on what not allowed.....your school crossed the line and tried to cover it up. They went beyond "what everyone does".

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Hoefully now you know why you got the "oh, the irony" reply.

Not really. I’m talking about reasons.. Some OSU fans on here (not you) reply with temper tantrums and no content.

FYI, there are some rules to eliminate it or at least rules on what not allowed.....your school crossed the line and tried to cover it up. They went beyond "what everyone does".

It depends on your claim

I’m not saying they did nothing wrong. I’m simply saying that in the context of:
1. Being able to watch signals via video
2. Coaches exchanging other teams signals

… being there in person doesn’t really matter. That was the “rule” that was cited. It’s an outdated one that had to do with not giving big money programs an advantage before video was even a big thing. Now it’s obsolete

The only thing left is the Stallions thing on a sideline, which I agree is ridiculous and he deserved to get canned. But you cant prove Harbaugh directed it or even knew about it, and you can’t prove that any of the recent OSU losses were because if it.

I get it, you want to assume guilt of the team you hate. But big claims require big evidence. This is a aspect as old as time.. what did the leader know? If you can’t prove they knew, then you have nothing, and you can’t expect others to take your assumption as truth.

 

[Wamu]

Not really. I’m talking about reasons.. Some OSU fans on here (not you) reply with temper tantrums and no content.

It depends on your claim

I’m not saying they did nothing wrong. I’m simply saying that in the context of:
1. Being able to watch signals via video
2. Coaches exchanging other teams signals

… being there in person doesn’t really matter. That was the “rule” that was cited. It’s an outdated one that had to do with not giving big money programs an advantage before video was even a big thing. Now it’s obsolete

The only thing left is the Stallions thing on a sideline, which I agree is ridiculous and he deserved to get canned. But you cant prove Harbaugh directed it or even knew about it, and you can’t prove that any of the recent OSU losses were because if it.

I get it, you want to assume guilt of the team you hate. But big claims require big evidence. This is a aspect as old as time.. what did the leader know? If you can’t prove they knew, then you have nothing, and you can’t expect others to take your assumption as truth.

You still trying to defending JH hiring Stallions for the sole reason to cheat? Good for you!

 

[Wamu]

Hoefully now you know why you got the "oh, the irony" reply.

FYI, there are some rules to eliminate it or at least rules on what not allowed.....your school crossed the line and tried to cover it up. They went beyond "what everyone does".

That ann arbor super-homer is in complete denial.

And he keeps saying Ohio State fans are somehow upset. The irony. Yeah Buckeye fan are soooo upset that everyone knows JH had to cheat to win. He doesn't live in reality.

He's gonna be fun to fuck with all CFB long.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

That ann arbor super-homer is in complete denial.

And he keeps saying Ohio State fans are somehow upset. The irony. Yeah Buckeye fan are soooo upset that everyone knows JH had to cheat to win. He doesn't live in reality.

I’d say it irks you that you’ve lost the last 4 games, I think that’s quite evident.

Me? I own when we lose. If OSU outplays us, hats off to them.

He's gonna be fun to fuck with all CFB long.

Eh, I’ll probably avoid you if that’s your goal. I like to analyze football, not vent emotions against fans of teams I hate.

 

[dtgold88]

Not really. I’m talking about reasons.. Some OSU fans on here (not you) reply with temper tantrums and no content.

It depends on your claim

I’m not saying they did nothing wrong. I’m simply saying that in the context of:
1. Being able to watch signals via video
2. Coaches exchanging other teams signals

… being there in person doesn’t really matter. That was the “rule” that was cited. It’s an outdated one that had to do with not giving big money programs an advantage before video was even a big thing. Now it’s obsolete

The only thing left is the Stallions thing on a sideline, which I agree is ridiculous and he deserved to get canned. But you cant prove Harbaugh directed it or even knew about it, and you can’t prove that any of the recent OSU losses were because if it.

I get it, you want to assume guilt of the team you hate. But big claims require big evidence. This is a aspect as old as time.. what did the leader know? If you can’t prove they knew, then you have nothing, and you can’t expect others to take your assumption as truth.

Can I prove Harbaugh knew? No but guessing others have.

 

[dtgold88]

I’d say it irks you that you’ve lost the last 4 games, I think that’s quite evident.

Me? I own when we lose. If OSU outplays us, hats off to them.

Eh, I’ll probably avoid you if that’s your goal. I like to analyze football, not vent emotions against fans of teams I hate.

Just curious....dd you own the forfeit?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Can I prove Harbaugh knew? No but guessing others have.

Nobody can prove Harbaugh knew unless they have emails, video, credit card receipts with his name on it, etc.

OSU fans will assume, and that’s their right. I just have the right to expect evidence for an absolute claim. Many OSU fans will get angry and whine that I won’t support their theories and assumptions. And that will be that. It’s all very predictable