Series Thread: 10-Game Roadtrip: 5/16 - 5/25

[NWinAZ]

 

[kcden]

Second? Hell, does Judge do all of the non-offense related stuff that Cal does, that nevertheless has a direct effect on the final outcome of a game?

1. Defense
2. pitch framing
3. pitch calling
4. setting the team defense for any given pitch
5. inspiring confidence in the pitchers
6. clubhouse leadership
7. building positive relationships with umpires

Cal is your MVP. If he played in a high profile baseball city, there would be no argument

Ehh.... Judge's OPS is .300 higher than Cal's; he's the best player on the best team in the AL. He would be the MVP front-runner, regardless of which team he or anyone else was on.

If we were talking about Cal vs. Bregman, I'd whole-heartedly agree.

 

[PolarVortex]

Ehh.... Judge's OPS is .300 higher than Cal's; he's the best player on the best team in the AL. He would be the MVP front-runner, regardless of which team he or anyone else was on.

If we were talking about Cal vs. Bregman, I'd whole-heartedly agree.

And if we were rating an MVP strictly on offense, I'd agree with you. Judge is clearly the better offensive player. But sometimes the voters take other qualities into consideration. It's infrequent, but it does happen. And if they took the all around contributions of each player, IMO, Cal would be the MVP. Judge, so far this year, has a -0.2 dWAR. That is likely only going to get worse as he had a -1.6 dWAR over the previous two years combined. Also, the Yankees are only two games ahead of the Mariners. That could change over the weekend for all we know.

 

[kcden]

And if we were rating an MVP strictly on offense, I'd agree with you. Judge is clearly the better offensive player. But sometimes the voters take other qualities into consideration. It's infrequent, but it does happen. And if they took the all around contributions of each player, IMO, Cal would be the MVP. Judge, so far this year, has a -0.2 dWAR. That is likely only going to get worse as he had a -1.6 dWAR over the previous two years combined. Also, the Yankees are only two games ahead of the Mariners. That could change over the weekend for all we know.

I don't think it's possible to have a + dWAR as an RF.

In spite of Cal having a + dWAR and Judge's being -, Judge is still WAY ahead in overall WAR (~45% ahead of Cal's). It isn't really that close, and, barring injury, it's very unlikely anyone will be close to Judge this year.

 

[PolarVortex]

I don't think it's possible to have a + dWAR as an RF.

In spite of Cal having a + dWAR and Judge's being -, Judge is still WAY ahead in overall WAR (~45% ahead of Cal's). It isn't really that close, and, barring injury, it's very unlikely anyone will be close to Judge this year.

Weeeelllll, you're a damn Husky. What do you know.

 

[kcden]

Weeeelllll, you're a damn Husky. What do you know.

Know what all Huskies & Cougs have in common?

 

[kcden]

And if we were rating an MVP strictly on offense, I'd agree with you. Judge is clearly the better offensive player. But sometimes the voters take other qualities into consideration. It's infrequent, but it does happen. And if they took the all around contributions of each player, IMO, Cal would be the MVP. Judge, so far this year, has a -0.2 dWAR. That is likely only going to get worse as he had a -1.6 dWAR over the previous two years combined. Also, the Yankees are only two games ahead of the Mariners. That could change over the weekend for all we know.

Also, I think you're correct that the relative standings of M's/Yanks will change over the weekend, but I don't think it will be in the direction that we want...

 

[WizardHawk]

Wait, what?

Judge would be the runaway MVP front runner now no matter what team he played for given how dominating he is at the plate.

Top 3 or 4 in offense with added defense chops wouldn't change that.

Man we all love the big dumper and he is one of the most clutch hitters the team has ever had. He's right now the best catcher in the league. But MVP? Nope.

Judge is a one in a generation type hitter off to a historic season start.

 

[cezero]

I'd be happy with a split of these 4 games and elated if we could somehow win the next 3. Staying 3.5 up or going to 4.5 up on the Cheaters. Is that too much to ask? I think it's doable.

I think the Rangers are still going to be a bigger threat to win the West than the Cheaters, though.

I like how we have to get to 5 or more runs down before the 6th or so to start giving up hope on a game. It hasn't been like that often over the past couple years.

 

[cezero]

oops, we're only 2.5 up, so staying 2.5 up or going to 3.5 up on the Cheaters. Is that be too much to ask?

 

[WizardHawk]

oops, we're only 2.5 up, so staying 2.5 up or going to 3.5 up on the Cheaters. Is that be too much to ask?

Split is absolutely their ceiling. Sadly I'd guess going 1- 3 on the series is more likely. Hope I'm wrong.

 

[wazzu31]

So what happened with Kirby? Just not sharp, overhyped so he was tired. Obviously I didn’t see it but can’t tell a lot from box scores

 

[NWinAZ]

Why doesn't his agent make them give him a 40 man spot already?

 

[NWinAZ]

So what happened with Kirby? Just not sharp, overhyped so he was tired. Obviously I didn’t see it but can’t tell a lot from box scores

Not sharp at all. Wasn't sharp in his rehab starts either. He wasn't ready in my opinion, and I thought that before yesterday. Control was way off for him and then he would hang one. Couldn't finish off hitters or innings.

 

[NWinAZ]

Next project up:

 

[AceKeptic]

Not holding out much hope for the rest of this series. The moment Kirby bottomed out yesterday, so did everyone else...

I see this as another instance of the bats going dormant the rest of the way.

They're more than welcome to prove me wrong, but I doubt they will.

 

[NWinAZ]

 

[NWinAZ]

Why would any vet reliever sign a minor league deal with Seattle?

 

[AceKeptic]

Heaven help us.

 

[WizardHawk]

I'm betting Hancock has at least 2 bad innings and gives up at least 6 before getting pulled. He's had some spells mixed with bad innings here and there, but it just feels like the Stros are going to tee off on him.