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[deanpet21]

Actually, I am not terribly sure why you lost your temper and told me to leave. I have never told another poster to leave, so I would not know.
My guess is because I proved you wrong once again and you got angry. Only Skinsdad can tell someone to leave and you aren't him. You get upset when someone knows more about the team. That is what happened and that is why Skinsdad jumped in and corrected you.

Yes, I was going to go to the Packers. Like many WSH fans, I got fed up with Snyder and could not stomach the lying, theft, harrasment, intimidation, and silencing women in the workforce. I couldn't defend it anymore. If it didn't bother you and you felt comfortable with it, so be it. Clearly I wasn't alone as we were last in attendance in the NFL in 2022 and next to last in 2021. Once loyal fans left for other teams...its simply a fact.

I bring up Rivera because for 4 years you lectured me on how he was the savior of the franchise and how I needed to get on board. You lectured me on how I wasn't a true fan because I didn't kiss the ring of Rivera. I tried to tell you he was tearing down the team but you decided to cheer him on and agenda post. You told me the coach centric method was the right way to go. Excuse me for being confused after 4 full years of your propaganda and now you all of a sudden saw the light? Why did it take you 4 years to come to this conclusion? Even after 3 non-winning seasons, you told me you still had hope for him. If Peters was fired, I am not sure you would be bothered if Quinn became the GM. You still like the coach centric method.

There you go again connecting dots in your head that don't exist. Why do I disagree with Peter's trades? I have said for years that it takes trades, and free agency to fill out a team. However, the draft is the backbone and foundation. I have proven this to you numerous times.

I never said anything about the Lattimore trade except that it hasn't worked out yet. I wasn't even on the board when it happened.
I said I liked th Samuel trade.
I said the price was steep for LT. He is past 30 and wants to get paid soon. I never said I don't like LT. I simply said I would have rolled with Coleman.

Your issue is that you conflate support and approval. You can support something or someone and NOT approve of everything they do. For example, I support DQ as our coach and like him. However, if he goes for it on 4th and 50, I don't approve of that decision. That doesn't mean I don't support him. Nearly every poster here has told you that.

im commenting on how you said to build a team and the Tunsil trade. I will leave it at that.

 

[skinsdad62]

As a GM you have to gage cost vs benefit for a trade . With CDC I looked at the possibility of injury and you soundly rejected it . The play for CDC. Was simply wait for his release . Then it cost you nothing in resources . Same with WINCE .

Tunsil is on his 3rd team in 9 yrs . A guy with his skill level averaging 3 yrs per team . If you are doing do diligence on a guy or looking at a trade you have to wonder

 

[deanpet21]

As a GM you have to gage cost vs benefit for a trade . With CDC I looked at the possibility of injury and you soundly rejected it . The play for CDC. Was simply wait for his release . Then it cost you nothing in resources . Same with WINCE .

Tunsil is on his 3rd team in 9 yrs . A guy with his skill level averaging 3 yrs per team . If you are doing do diligence on a guy or looking at a trade you have to wonder

I dont think you realize the talented player we are getting at a position of great need that protects the franchise. You sound like the LT position is an easy fill when its not.

 

[skinsdad62]

I dont think you realize the talented player we are getting at a position of great need that protects the franchise. You sound like the LT position is an easy fill when its not.

Again overpay and yes we can draft one

 

[blastfromthepast]

I dont think you realize the talented player we are getting at a position of great need that protects the franchise. You sound like the LT position is an easy fill when its not.

We tried telling you this when Trent Williams got traded and you disagreed. You said he was easily replaceable.

 

[deanpet21]

We tried telling you this when Trent Williams got traded and you disagreed. You said he was easily replaceable.

Right. he wasn't, all the more we needed Tunsil. #1 priority in this offseason was to protect JD5 and they did it.

 

[deanpet21]

Again overpay and yes we can draft one

so a rookie can mimic Tunsil talent right now to protect JD5. How did Coleman do this year? He is getting moved out of the LT position. If its so easy to draft one why didnt he work? I never give up on rookies but its harder to find that LT as a rookie.

 

[blastfromthepast]

Right. he wasn't, all the more we needed Tunsil. #1 priority in this offseason was to protect JD5 and they did it.

I told you we needed to draft a LT after Trent left but you told me we needed Chase Young.

I am surprised you are finally behind Daniels as well. You told me you wanted Maye.

Its honestly tough to keep track here sometimes.

 

[deanpet21]

I told you we needed to draft a LT after Trent left but you told me we needed Chase Young.

I am surprised you are finally behind Daniels as well. You told me you wanted Maye.

Its honestly tough to keep track here sometimes.

wait a minute i was undecided at first about JD5 then I said I wanted JD5. Yes, I Wanted CY as did others. What does this have to do with the Tunsil. Tough to keep track of you.

 

[skinsdad62]

so a rookie can mimic Tunsil talent right now to protect JD5. How did Coleman do this year? He is getting moved out of the LT position. If its so easy to draft one why didnt he work? I never give up on rookies but its harder to find that LT as a rookie.

we went to the nfc title game with him at LT dean

 

[deanpet21]

we went to the nfc title game with him at LT dean

it was a platoon with Lucas. Peters doesn't want him there at LT that's why he traded for Tunsil. If Peters thought Coleman was the answer at LT, why trade for Tunsil? Why give up the picks? Do you think Coleman is better now or will be better in the future than Tunsil. Please explain.

 

[skinsdad62]

it was a platoon with Lucas. Peters doesn't want him there at LT that's why he traded for Tunsil. If Peters thought Coleman was the answer at LT, why trade for Tunsil? Why give up the picks? Do you think Coleman is better now or will be better in the future than Tunsil. Please explain.

for the love of god dean , the 3rd round pick won the job at the end of the year (good for a 3rd round pick ) and we went to the title game . so yes we can draft at LT and a good one and not have to overpay for a tunsil .

our drafted LT doesnt have to be better then tunsil . all he has to be is good as he will be cheaper . that is a false narrative you push . coleman doesnt have to be better then tunsil either . tunsil isnt going to get better he has reached his zenith . being better then coleman isnt worth the cost we gave up to get him . if he isnt an all pro this year then the trade is a failure

 

[deanpet21]

for the love of god dean , the 3rd round pick won the job at the end of the year (good for a 3rd round pick ) and we went to the title game . so yes we can draft at LT and a good one and not have to overpay for a tunsil .

our drafted LT doesnt have to be better then tunsil . all he has to be is good as he will be cheaper . that is a false narrative you push . coleman doesnt have to be better then tunsil either . tunsil isnt going to get better he has reached his zenith . being better then coleman isnt worth the cost we gave up to get him . if he isnt an all pro this year then the trade is a failure

Right, he won it against what competition? Peters doesnt see it that way that Coleman is our LT or confidence that he can be our LT or he would have never made the trade. He had doubts that is why he made the trade for Tunsil. That is why we pushed hard for Stanley. Peters was upgrading at the position b/c Why? He didnt believe in Coleman or a draft pick. The evidence is right there. Tunsil makes the team better, that is what Peters cares about. He is a better LT than Coleman to protect his franchise QB.. No false narrative, there is evidence on why Peters made the trade. Plus you dont know if Tunsil has reached his zenith, that's speculation.

Sure, Tunsil has to perform at a high level to validate the trade no doubt. I agree with you there

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[skinsdad62]

Right, he won it against what competition? Peters doesnt see it that way that Coleman is our LT or confidence that he can be our LT or he would have never made the trade. He had doubts that is why he made the trade for Tunsil. That is why we pushed hard for Stanley. Peters was upgrading at the position b/c Why? He didnt believe in Coleman or a draft pick. The evidence is right there. Tunsil makes the team better, that is what Peters cares about. He is a better LT than Coleman to protect his franchise QB.. No false narrative, there is evidence on why Peters made the trade. Plus you dont know if Tunsil has reached his zenith, that's speculation.

Sure, Tunsil has to perform at a high level to validate the trade no doubt. I agree with you there

Signing an FA , good , overpaying for a player , bad
Upgrading the position isn’t my issue, overpaying is

 

[deanpet21]

Signing an FA , good , overpaying for a player , bad
Upgrading the position isn’t my issue, overpaying is

decent price for a major upgrade IMO.

 

[blastfromthepast]

Right, he won it against what competition? Peters doesnt see it that way that Coleman is our LT or confidence that he can be our LT or he would have never made the trade. He had doubts that is why he made the trade for Tunsil. That is why we pushed hard for Stanley. Peters was upgrading at the position b/c Why? He didnt believe in Coleman or a draft pick. The evidence is right there. Tunsil makes the team better, that is what Peters cares about. He is a better LT than Coleman to protect his franchise QB.. No false narrative, there is evidence on why Peters made the trade. Plus you dont know if Tunsil has reached his zenith, that's speculation.

Sure, Tunsil has to perform at a high level to validate the trade no doubt. I agree with you there

Quick question, if "character issues" are a big deal to you, then where are your concerns about Tunsil's character issues? You saw the same photos we all did right?

 

[blastfromthepast]

wait a minute i was undecided at first about JD5 then I said I wanted JD5. Yes, I Wanted CY as did others. What does this have to do with the Tunsil. Tough to keep track of you.

Happy to address any questions or clarify my position if needs be. Just ask.

You were undecided about Daniels? I never was.

If you recall, we argued about Ben Johnson being the HC and him selecting Maye...which you said you would support. We then argued about the coach centric method and why Johnson should NOT be selected any players in the draft. That is the role of the GM.

Yes, I said CY would be a mistake when we had just spent three 1st round picks on the DL. It was a mistake just I said at the time. I can pull the post if you wish.

What does it have to do with LT?

You flip flop and change positions often.

For example, the 2020 draft. As we both admitted, you were pro Young and building the DLine, and I was for replacing Williams and building the OLine. You told me that an "average" LT would be sufficient. In your defense, you said 5,526 that Williams was difficult to replace. We both agree.
You are now saying that the price for multiple early/mid-round draft picks is NOT steep and that we "had" to get him since he was a Pro Bowl LT and was there.
This is a 180 degree change in your philosophy from earlier when you wanted to build DLine instead and thought "average" was sufficient to do the job.
Now I ask, what is your position on LT then? You have argued both schools of thought.

Another example, Rivera and him being GM. No need to go over the arguement, but to illistrate the point, you lectured me and tried to convience me that Rivera would do a "good job" and told me at one point he had done a "fine" job. You then supported a rumor you claimed to hear about EB being a co-GM over the offense. You said it made sense to you and argued with Skinsdad and I about it. I disagreed with you 100% and still do.
You apparently now think we need a GM.
Again, which is it? Do support the coach centric method or prefer a GM? You have advocated and argued for both.

Its possible you simply auto approve whatever the team does. I don't know, maybe that is your stance. Correct me if I am wrong of if I have misinterpreted anything you have said. Once again, if you cant keep track of what I am saying, I am happy to clarify. Hopefully, you will do the same.

 

[skinsdad62]

Happy to address any questions or clarify my position if needs be. Just ask.

You were undecided about Daniels? I never was.

If you recall, we argued about Ben Johnson being the HC and him selecting Maye...which you said you would support. We then argued about the coach centric method and why Johnson should NOT be selected any players in the draft. That is the role of the GM.

Yes, I said CY would be a mistake when we had just spent three 1st round picks on the DL. It was a mistake just I said at the time. I can pull the post if you wish.

What does it have to do with LT?

You flip flop and change positions often.

For example, the 2020 draft. As we both admitted, you were pro Young and building the DLine, and I was for replacing Williams and building the OLine. You told me that an "average" LT would be sufficient. In your defense, you said 5,526 that Williams was difficult to replace. We both agree.
You are now saying that the price for multiple early/mid-round draft picks is NOT steep and that we "had" to get him since he was a Pro Bowl LT and was there.
This is a 180 degree change in your philosophy from earlier when you wanted to build DLine instead and thought "average" was sufficient to do the job.
Now I ask, what is your position on LT then? You have argued both schools of thought.

Another example, Rivera and him being GM. No need to go over the arguement, but to illistrate the point, you lectured me and tried to convience me that Rivera would do a "good job" and told me at one point he had done a "fine" job. You then supported a rumor you claimed to hear about EB being a co-GM over the offense. You said it made sense to you and argued with Skinsdad and I about it. I disagreed with you 100% and still do.
You apparently now think we need a GM.
Again, which is it? Do support the coach centric method or prefer a GM? You have advocated and argued for both.

Its possible you simply auto approve whatever the team does. I don't know, maybe that is your stance. Correct me if I am wrong of if I have misinterpreted anything you have said. Once again, if you cant keep track of what I am saying, I am happy to clarify. Hopefully, you will do the same.

its mostly auto approve , not always but mostly . most people who simply arent cheerleading at least recognize we gave up alot to get a guy we could have drafted

 

[Stymietee]

Perhaps he'd be better as a massive OG because the reason Petit-Frere was waived was his 10% pressure rate allowed since entering the NFL is the second-highest among 92 tackles with at least 500 pass blocking snaps. The year 2023 was a rough one statistically. Last season wasn’t much better in pass protection. Sports Info Solutions had Petit-Frere allowing a whopping 11 sacks. His blown block percentage was comfortably the worst in the NFL, and 2.7 percent higher than McKivitz’s which was the eighth-worst in the NFL.