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over and over again Obama admin. Officials can’t handle classified documents . HRC and this idiot
 

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over and over again Obama admin. Officials can’t handle classified documents . HRC and this idiot
All you can do is laugh typical, what they try to hang trump for they’ve already done
 

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The hypocrisy is unreel.
look a president can declassify anything he wants . there is no process, a VP cant . now lets be real president trump nor VP biden (at the time ) didnt pack their own stuff , staffers did it . the issue is that the moment the VP (or his staffers ) took classified documents out of the VP office the law was violated . same with HRC . The person who signed out the classified docs (in this case the VP ) is still responsible for the docs being safeguarded.

all presidents and VP's probably took classified docs out and home with them inadvertently because they dont pack their stuff up but guys who comment on this have never handled classified documents , dont know the rules and laws , and then refuse to listen to guys on this board who have handled these types of documents

the libs did mar largo because they wanted to try and convict trump of a felony so he couldnt run for public office . thats all it was and now thats blown up because biden could be impeached just for this whether it was intentional or accidental because he lost control of classified documents thus violating the law as VP and he cant declassify them as VP
 

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look a president can declassify anything he wants . there is no process, a VP cant . now lets be real president trump nor VP biden (at the time ) didnt pack their own stuff , staffers did it . the issue is that the moment the VP (or his staffers ) took classified documents out of the VP office the law was violated . same with HRC . The person who signed out the classified docs (in this case the VP ) is still responsible for the docs being safeguarded.

all presidents and VP's probably took classified docs out and home with them inadvertently because they dont pack their stuff up but guys who comment on this have never handled classified documents , dont know the rules and laws , and then refuse to listen to guys on this board who have handled these types of documents

the libs did mar largo because they wanted to try and convict trump of a felony so he couldnt run for public office . thats all it was and now thats blown up because biden could be impeached just for this whether it was intentional or accidental because he lost control of classified documents thus violating the law as VP and he cant declassify them as VP
I understand what is going on .... I understand classified info, I had a top secret clearance.

The hypocrisy comment was how the left will act like saints while along they are going the same thing.
 

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Interesting how the same people who claimed what Trump did was no big deal are up in arms about this. And the word hypocrite was used? LOL.

No don't get me wrong. This is very troubling, just what the Hell is going on with our classified documents? I'm glad Garland has announced a special council and it's good that the man was once appointed by President Trump to avoid any appearance of a sham investigation. Not exactly what more they expect to find with this further investigation, Biden has been forthcoming from the start. But this is very serious and needs a complete investigation.

Now let me try to explain the difference even knowing it will fall on deaf ears. Intent matters. While Trump deliberately took these documents and went out of his way to refuse to return them after multiple requests, even going so far as to have his lawyer sign on his behalf that they were all returned when that was a flat out lie, Biden did not such thing. And of course some of the documents found with Trump were marked TS/SCI. As I have patiently tried to explain to Dad even if he did de-classify them (and that is in serious doubt) that does not change the content. The bottom line is Trump had some of most closely guarded secrets sitting in an unsecure location.

Now we get to Biden. What he did was careless and very serious. But there was no intent, by every account it was a mistake. Once the mistake was discovered they IMMEDIATELY contacted the National Archives to have them returned. I would think most with a brain can see the difference here. And of course there are no reports that the documents were classified at the level of the Trump documents.

Now did they delay the release of this information until after the mid-terms? Of course, that's just politics boys and girls. Just as the Pubs grandstanding and asking why they didn't raid Biden's home when that was totally unnecessary as he was not the man being dishonest with the feds and attempting to keep the documents was simply politics as well.
 
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Interesting how the same people who claimed what Trump did was no big deal are up in arms about this. And the word hypocrite was used? LOL.

No don't get me wrong. This is very troubling, what the Hell is going on with our classified documents? I'm glad Garland has announced a special council and it's good that the man was once appointed by President Trump to avoid any appearance of a sham investigation. Not exactly what more they expect to find with this further investigation, Biden has been forthcoming from the start. But this is very serious and needs a complete investigation.

Now let me try to explain the difference even knowing it will fall on deaf ears. Intent matters. While Trump deliberately took these documents and went out of his way to refuse to return them after multiple requests, even going so far as to have his lawyer sign on his behalf that they were all returned when that was a flat out lie, Biden did not such thing. And of course some of the documents found with Trump were marked TS/SCI. As I have patiently tried to explain to Dad even if he did de-classify them (and that is in serious doubt) that does not change the content. The bottom line is Trump had some of most closely guarded secrets sitting in an unsecure location.

Now we get to Biden. What he did was careless and very serious. But there was no intent, by every account it was a mistake. Once the mistake was discovered they IMMEDIATELY contacted the National Archives to have them returned. I would think most with a brain can see the difference here. And of course there are no reports that the documents were classified at the level of the Trump documents.

Now did they delay the release of this information until after the mid-terms? Of course, that's just politics boys and girls. Just as the Pubs grandstanding and asking why the didn't raid Biden's home when that was totally unnecessary as he was not the man being dishonest with the feds and attempting to keep them was politics as well.
While Biden handled the situation differently than trump, he hasn’t been forthcoming. They sat on the release until after the mid term elections for obviously political reasons. He and his team are no saints.

the Real issue is how did the missing docs that Biden have go unnoticed by the national archives for over 6 years. In fact, if Biden‘s team didn’t find the missing docs, they might have never even known they were missing. How does that happen? that Is more concerning to me that the true fact that some aides boxed up documents as they were leaving the WH and had no idea what they were (in either case). I now believe that one could go thru most all ex presidents document trove and probably find documents that shouldnt be there.
 

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Biden could be charged for this . The thing Is Biden can’t declassify as VP and it was suppressed while they dragged Trump through the mud . Don’t see how you can charge Trump for anything and not Biden .
Snyder at it again......oh wait.
 

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Interesting how the same people who claimed what Trump did was no big deal are up in arms about this. And the word hypocrite was used? LOL.

No don't get me wrong. This is very troubling, just what the Hell is going on with our classified documents? I'm glad Garland has announced a special council and it's good that the man was once appointed by President Trump to avoid any appearance of a sham investigation. Not exactly what more they expect to find with this further investigation, Biden has been forthcoming from the start. But this is very serious and needs a complete investigation.

Now let me try to explain the difference even knowing it will fall on deaf ears. Intent matters. While Trump deliberately took these documents and went out of his way to refuse to return them after multiple requests, even going so far as to have his lawyer sign on his behalf that they were all returned when that was a flat out lie, Biden did not such thing. And of course some of the documents found with Trump were marked TS/SCI. As I have patiently tried to explain to Dad even if he did de-classify them (and that is in serious doubt) that does not change the content. The bottom line is Trump had some of most closely guarded secrets sitting in an unsecure location.

Now we get to Biden. What he did was careless and very serious. But there was no intent, by every account it was a mistake. Once the mistake was discovered they IMMEDIATELY contacted the National Archives to have them returned. I would think most with a brain can see the difference here. And of course there are no reports that the documents were classified at the level of the Trump documents.

Now did they delay the release of this information until after the mid-terms? Of course, that's just politics boys and girls. Just as the Pubs grandstanding and asking why they didn't raid Biden's home when that was totally unnecessary as he was not the man being dishonest with the feds and attempting to keep the documents was simply politics as well.
Also, you claim that trump knowing took these documents. How do you know this? So you believe that in the final days of his presidency, he was actually boxing up his office? I highly doubt that.
if you remember, trump wasnt leaving. It wasn’t until the final days did it dawn on trump and his team that they had to vacate. So it was a mad rush to pack. all kinds of craps was just thrown into boxes to be sorted later.

im not condoning trump‘s actions when confronted about the docs when it was known he had them. But to claim he knowingly did, or did not, purposely take the documents is indeterminable at this time. Only trump can answer that question.
 

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Also, you claim that trump knowing took these documents. How do you know this? So you believe that in the final days of his presidency, he was actually boxing up his office? I highly doubt that.
if you remember, trump wasnt leaving. It wasn’t until the final days did it dawn on trump and his team that they had to vacate. So it was a mad rush to pack. all kinds of craps was just thrown into boxes to be sorted later.

im not condoning trump‘s actions when confronted about the docs when it was known he had them. But to claim he knowingly did, or did not, purposely take the documents is indeterminable at this time. Only trump can answer that question.
Fair enough, it's possible that Trump did not know the documents were being packed. But If he wasn't aware before he surely was after the first request right? Yet he not only did not return them as requested (and required by law) for over a year he lied about them through his lawyer

As for your first point as I clearly said Biden notified the National Archives as soon as they were discovered. He was forthcoming with the news to the authorities immediately as he was required to do. Again as I clearly stated they delayed the release of this news because it came right before the mid-terms. That's just politics, the point remains when Biden learned of the findings they immediately notified the correct people. Trump did nothing like this, he actively tried to conceal possession and that's a huge difference.

People are not often charged for making a mistake. Intent matters with regard to the law. And Trump was a private citizen and intended to keep docs he was not legally allowed to keep.
 
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Fair enough, it's possible that Trump did not know the documents were being packed. But If he wasn't aware before he surely was after the first request right? Yet he not only did not return them as requested (and required by law) for over a year he lied about them through his lawyer

As for your first point as I clearly said Biden notified the National Archives as soon as they were discovered. He was forthcoming with the news to the authorities immediately as he was required to do. Again as I clearly stated they delayed the release of this news because it came right before the mid-terms. That's just politics, the point remains when Biden learned of the findings they immediately notified the correct people. Trump did nothing like this, he actively tried to conceal possession and that's a huge difference.

People are not often charged for making a mistake. Intent matters with regard to the law. And Trump was a private citizen and intended to keep docs he was not legally allowed to keep.
I just got to give a lib like you a big fat LMFAO! Squirm mf squirm
 

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Any other accusations that are brought up against trump, ought to be an automatic indictment to the fucking libs, cause it’s pretty much 100% chance those fools have already done it
 

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Any other accusations that are brought up against trump, ought to be an automatic indictment to the fucking libs, cause it’s pretty much 100% chance those fools have already done it

Let me know when you have evidence that Biden refused to surrender and then lied about returning documents he was not legally allowed to possess.

I'll wait.
 

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Fair enough, it's possible that Trump did not know the documents were being packed. But If he wasn't aware before he surely was after the first request right? Yet he not only did not return them as requested (and required by law) for over a year he lied about them through his lawyer

As for your first point as I clearly said Biden notified the National Archives as soon as they were discovered. He was forthcoming with the news to the authorities immediately as he was required to do. Again as I clearly stated they delayed the release of this news because it came right before the mid-terms. That's just politics, the point remains when Biden learned of the findings they immediately notified the correct people. Trump did nothing like this, he actively tried to conceal possession and that's a huge difference.

People are not often charged for making a mistake. Intent matters with regard to the law. And Trump was a private citizen and intended to keep docs he was not legally allowed to keep.
All are true. my only point is that Biden and his team sat on the release. That is not forthcoming. You can call it politics. I call is deception so as not to affect the mid terms.
DGf , your hate for trump is so visceral that clouds your judgement on everything associated with trump and Biden. I also think trump is a piece of shit. But I try and look objectively at every situation. Nothing will come of these documents. Both sides will scream about how bad the other side is but there will be no fallout, unfortunately. However, the Jan 6 probe could be a different story.……it just depends on if the DoJ wants to pursue it. They will not go after an ex president unless the case is lock solid.
 
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