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[deanpet21]

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So Wentz is still not ready. So what is all this mumbo jumbo about naming a starting QB when Wentz isnt even 100%

 

[kbso83432]

So Wentz is still not ready. So what is all this mumbo jumbo about naming a starting QB when Wentz isnt even 100%

I've been telling you Dean. This QB situation is going to be week to week.

 

[deanpet21]

I've been telling you Dean. This QB situation is going to be week to week.

i agree 1000%% tell that to gk and skinsdad

 

[kbso83432]

i agree 1000%% tell that to gk and skinsdad

There is no way I'm getting in the middle of all that. Lol

Ron is doing what's right for the team. He's going to allow TH to play his way off the field. So as long as we are winning and TH isn't costing us games, Heinicke will be the starter even if Wentz is healthy.

So in essence Ron did name Heinicke the starter.

I do think our ceiling is higher with Wentz. I'd be interested to see what this team looks like if:

1. The defense continues to dominate.
2. Scott continues this run first philosophy.
3. If Wentz can get the ball out on time.
4. If Wentz can be the game manager that TH is but open up the go routes and deep outs again.
5. Can Wentz be accurate after taking a shot or two.

A lot of "if's" but part of me wonders if Wentz can just manage the game and hit the occasional deep shot, can we beat anyone in the NFC?

Wentz under center alone probably keeps teams from playing single high safety on us as much as they do and will moving forward.

With Chase coming back, a 6'5 qb with a hose for an arm, maybe puts us in position to make a real run.

However, you have to fall back to what Jon Allen said though. The locker room picks the QB. They have picked TH and we are winning. Those two things can't be ignored.

 

[skinsdad62]

i agree 1000%% tell that to gk and skinsdad

when will you wake up and understand the kings english ? falco should be the starter based on team record 4-1 . wince was 2-4 . falco is a BU QB what part of BU QB dont you understand ? of course its subject to change damn are you that dense ?

 

[Sportster 72]

There is no way I'm getting in the middle of all that. Lol

Ron is doing what's right for the team. He's going to allow TH to play his way off the field. So as long as we are winning and TH isn't costing us games, Heinicke will be the starter even if Wentz is healthy.

So in essence Ron did name Heinicke the starter.

I do think our ceiling is higher with Wentz. I'd be interested to see what this team looks like if:

1. The defense continues to dominate.
2. Scott continues this run first philosophy.
3. If Wentz can get the ball out on time.
4. If Wentz can be the game manager that TH is but open up the go routes and deep outs again.
5. Can Wentz be accurate after taking a shot or two.

A lot of "if's" but part of me wonders if Wentz can just manage the game and hit the occasional deep shot, can we beat anyone in the NFC?

Wentz under center alone probably keeps teams from playing single high safety on us as much as they do and will moving forward.

With Chase coming back, a 6'5 qb with a hose for an arm, maybe puts us in position to make a real run.

However, you have to fall back to what Jon Allen said though. The locker room picks the QB. They have picked TH and we are winning. Those two things can't be ignored.

IMO excellent and accurate post.

 

[kbso83432]

IMO excellent and accurate post.

Appreciate @Sportster 72 I'm really in the middle on this.

 

[deanpet21]

when will you wake up and understand the kings english ? falco should be the starter based on team record 4-1 . wince was 2-4 . falco is a BU QB what part of BU QB dont you understand ? of course its subject to change damn are you that dense ?

keep saying the record, b/c you have no idea how we are winning. RR names the backup QB the starter and said he will role with him. I think it could change. no doubt

 

[deanpet21]

There is no way I'm getting in the middle of all that. Lol

Ron is doing what's right for the team. He's going to allow TH to play his way off the field. So as long as we are winning and TH isn't costing us games, Heinicke will be the starter even if Wentz is healthy.

So in essence Ron did name Heinicke the starter.

I do think our ceiling is higher with Wentz. I'd be interested to see what this team looks like if:

1. The defense continues to dominate.
2. Scott continues this run first philosophy.
3. If Wentz can get the ball out on time.
4. If Wentz can be the game manager that TH is but open up the go routes and deep outs again.
5. Can Wentz be accurate after taking a shot or two.

A lot of "if's" but part of me wonders if Wentz can just manage the game and hit the occasional deep shot, can we beat anyone in the NFC?

Wentz under center alone probably keeps teams from playing single high safety on us as much as they do and will moving forward.

With Chase coming back, a 6'5 qb with a hose for an arm, maybe puts us in position to make a real run.

However, you have to fall back to what Jon Allen said though. The locker room picks the QB. They have picked TH and we are winning. Those two things can't be ignored.

I do to. Of course, they would play CW different than TH. Middle of what? They blame all the failures on CW which doesn't make sense to me. i have yet to see TH carry this team to a victory. I hope I see it. Sure, if the locker room wants TH than fine. Plus, it's not even an argument b/c CW is not healthy. So RR is forced to play TH right now

 

[kbso83432]

I do to. Of course, they would play CW different than TH. Middle of what? They blame all the failures on CW which doesn't make sense to me. i have yet to see TH carry this team to a victory. I hope I see it. Sure, if the locker room wants TH than fine. Plus, it's not even an argument b/c CW is not healthy. So RR is forced to play TH right now

When I say I'm in the middle I mean you as well as skinsdad and the crew make valid points.

To me there is merit in sticking with TH based on record, leadership, intangibles and the offensive struggles the last few weeks before Wentz got injured.

To your point we aren't really winning because of TH, but we are winning with him. So with WJ3 gone, Forrest/Davis emerging, and this run first offense, I could see how you would feel Wentz with the same game plan might push us into real contention.

The thing is Wentz could go out there and flame out causing Ron to lose the locker room. I just don't know.

Believe me, when it's time to bench Heinicke, me, the team and everyone will know. I'm just not there yet. He's 4-1. Right or wrong he's 4-1.

 

[skinsdad62]

keep saying the record, b/c you have no idea how we are winning. RR names the backup QB the starter and said he will role with him. I think it could change. no doubt

I keep saying record because that is the standard you introduced with KC

I know exactly how we are winning better execution all around

 

[skinsdad62]

I do to. Of course, they would play CW different than TH. Middle of what? They blame all the failures on CW which doesn't make sense to me. i have yet to see TH carry this team to a victory. I hope I see it. Sure, if the locker room wants TH than fine. Plus, it's not even an argument b/c CW is not healthy. So RR is forced to play TH right now

Again you don’t understand the kings English. My position has been we would have been exactly where we are now without wince making the trade a bust

saying we were 2-4 with wince is not saying we BLAME him for the record . 2 different things which again you don’t comprehend

 

[skinsdad62]

 

[Sportster 72]

Appreciate @Sportster 72 I'm really in the middle on this.

So am I kbso ... I don't have a horse in the race. Winning is what it is all about.

You presented arguments for both QBs, I agree with what you said.

 

[Sportster 72]

I know it is preseason but it is more yards than Wentz and TH have run for.

 

[kbso83432]

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So am I kbso ... I don't have a horse in the race. Winning is what it is all about.

You presented arguments for both QBs, I agree with what you said.

I'm gonna take it week by week. I have no problem going back to Wentz if need be.

 

[deanpet21]

Again you don’t understand the kings English. My position has been we would have been exactly where we are now without wince making the trade a bust

saying we were 2-4 with wince is not saying we BLAME him for the record . 2 different things which again you don’t comprehend

well good for you. RR and Turner said in the offseason anything but TH. Now they did a complete 180. Wentz is still hurt so it's a non-issue now. We cannot lose this Falcons game. you and gk are blaming CW for alot of things. That is the difference.

 

[skinsdad62]

well good for you. RR and Turner said in the offseason anything but TH. Now they did a complete 180. Wentz is still hurt so it's a non-issue now. We cannot lose this Falcons game. you and gk are blaming CW for alot of things. That is the difference.

Ok. Show me

 

[deanpet21]

Ok. Show me

i already brought it up. GK saying he sucks and you constantly defensing TH even though he is getting a lot of help from the defense. Hey, I want TH to win, Im just calling the games the way i see them.

 

[skinsdad62]

i already brought it up. GK saying he sucks and you constantly defensing TH even though he is getting a lot of help from the defense. Hey, I want TH to win, Im just calling the games the way i see them.

dean how does that mean we blame anyone ? blaming is saying wince did something or things to lose a game . saying you are 2-4 with him as starter isnt blaming anyone its a statement of fact

and defending falco isnt blamimg anyone either . learn the damn language and what it means