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I understand he has no future with this team b/c of the drafting of Howell. Ther is not futrue for him here if Wentz does well. If Wentz gets hurt or plays bad and TH comes in an dominates, then that is the only way he stays on the roster in 23.
do i have to go over the list of 5th round drafted qbs who have failed to make it ? dean we dont know who this guy is or what he could or couldnt be . way to early for declarations .

right now if i am the commanders and wince does well i am looking to resign falco as the BU until howell (or whomever is ready )
 

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do i have to go over the list of 5th round drafted qbs who have failed to make it ? dean we dont know who this guy is or what he could or couldnt be . way to early for declarations .

right now if i am the commanders and wince does well i am looking to resign falco as the BU until howell (or whomever is ready )

There is no way they resign TH if Wentz does well. His FA salary demand would be too much for this team to handle b/c we have a lot of people that need to be extended or resigned. IF there was any confidence in TH Howell would have never been drafted.
 

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There is no way they resign TH if Wentz does well. His FA salary demand would be too much for this team to handle b/c we have a lot of people that need to be extended or resigned. IF there was any confidence in TH Howell would have never been drafted.
are you nuts ? he would get what a typical BU qb would get around 3-6 mil tops
 

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are you nuts ? he would get what a typical BU qb would get around 3-6 mil tops

No, just common sense. TH has no future in 23 unless Wentz fails this year.
 

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Another thing to consider is 2022 was considered a weak QB draft class. Howell has to earn it. Heinicke at least has an NFL body of work now.
 

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Right now as a backup. Yes.
and he will be a BU next year as well . howell hasnt dont 1 single thing to earn anything at this point

it can change but you sure as hell want to anoint people before they have done anything
 

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and he will be a BU next year as well . howell hasnt dont 1 single thing to earn anything at this point

it can change but you sure as hell want to anoint people before they have done anything

Make a friendly bet that if Wentz does well this year TH is as good as gone in 23.
 

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Make a friendly bet that if Wentz does well this year TH is as good as gone in 23.
What’s with you ? Falco could be gone because he got a job as a starter . He went 7-9 vs a lot tougher teams the wince and with less talent
I think the commies will be interested in keeping him
 

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What’s with you ? Falco could be gone because he got a job as a starter . He went 7-9 vs a lot tougher teams the wince and with less talent
I think the commies will be interested in keeping him

Then why draft Howell? If there is abundance of confidence in TH why draft Howell and why isn't QB1 an open competition? Translation is there is no confidence in TH. They didn't consider him a starter before we traded for Wentz.
 

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Then why draft Howell? If there is abundance of confidence in TH why draft Howell and why isn't QB1 an open competition? Translation is there is no confidence in TH. They didn't consider him a starter before we traded for Wentz.
You draft a 5th round qb as someone to try to develop. You damn sure don’t anoint him qb2 next year without taking a snap in anger !
Why is that so hard to believe ?
 

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You draft a 5th round qb as someone to try to develop. You damn sure don’t anoint him qb2 next year without taking a snap in anger !
Why is that so hard to believe ?

Howell develops this year and makes a jump in Year 2. Simple. Why give 6m to a TH when he's already proved that he is not a starting QB in this league.
 

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Howell develops this year and makes a jump in Year 2. Simple. Why give 6m to a TH when he's already proved that he is not a starting QB in this league.
he has to do it first , he done anything yet
 

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Then what was the purpose in drafting Howell? To be a starter in 23 if Wentz fails? Dont you think they would use FA or the draft to fill that need? You really think TH has a future with this team? If so, how?
IF howell was drafted in the 2nd or even the third the expectation is that the team is grooming him to start in '23 or '24. If they fall flat on their face they will have a chance to draft a ready made qb in '23. TH ceiling is QB2 here as long as ron and scott are here. Once ron is gone i expect TH to be shown the door pretty quickly.
 

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IF howell was drafted in the 2nd or even the third the expectation is that the team is grooming him to start in '23 or '24. If they fall flat on their face they will have a chance to draft a ready made qb in '23. TH ceiling is QB2 here as long as ron and scott are here. Once ron is gone i expect TH to be shown the door pretty quickly.

I agree that is why I'm saying TH has no future here at all b/c of the drafting of Howell. Didn't matter what round Howell was drafted in. You just proved what I have been saying all along.
 

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I agree that is why I'm saying TH has no future here at all b/c of the drafting of Howell. Didn't matter what round Howell was drafted in. You just proved what I have been saying all along.
not really because a new regime could kick howell to the curb and start over.
 

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not really because a new regime could kick howell to the curb and start over.

The new regime could want a new QB1. Yes. But why cut Howell? He is cheap and young.
 
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