Is Baker Mayfield a Bust?

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That's at best just a guess and irrelevant.

Try and stay with the comments, though......The poster said Baker has zero interest in staying here so I asked if he'd sign for $40 mil per for 4 years. If the answer is yes, then wouldn't zero be a bit of an exaggeration?

It wouldn't have to be $40M. If the Browns offered Mayfield $20M per year fully guaranteed for the next 10 years he'd rush in to sign that contract before the Browns came to their senses. He would have every intention of cashing their cheques each year but now he'd have zero motivation to earn them rather than very little motivation.

If the Browns put a $160M 1 year extension with zero guarantees in front of Mayfield he wouldn't even consider it.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Can you know with 100% certainty? I guess not. But you could offer an opinion if you were not scared of questions. In your opinion, would Baker sign if offered a 4 year deal for $160 mil?

Want to know what is most comical here, though? You inadvertently took my side. If "no one can know" guess what......saying there is zero percent chance Baker wants to be here, as I said, is an exaggeration.

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[dtgold88]

It wouldn't have to be $40M. If the Browns offered Mayfield $20M per year fully guaranteed for the next 10 years he'd rush in to sign that contract before the Browns came to their senses. He would have every intention of cashing their cheques each year but now he'd have zero motivation to earn them rather than very little motivation.

If the Browns put a $160M 1 year extension with zero guarantees in front of Mayfield he wouldn't even consider it.

so, yes, when he said zero percent chance he exaggerated.

 

[dtgold88]

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I don't need to play a game here. You took my side...even though you didn't mean to.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I don't need to play a game here. You took my side...even though you didn't mean to.

Nope, your confused.

 

[dtgold88]

Nope, your confused.

Not at all. He said zero percent chance Baker wants to stay. I spooked him (and you) with a question by asking if Baker would sign for 4 years, and $160 mil. You said "no one could know".

well guess what, sport....unless the answer to that question is no then it's kind of hard to say zero percent chance he wants to stay. Never mind the obvious of wondering why you think no one could know if he'd accept such a deal but somehow you can be sure that the poster who said zero chance he wants to stay made a factual comment?

The idea you wont simply own up to my being spot on here (it's not debatable) is why this gets a ya gotta love this forum for your trouble.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Not at all. He said zero percent chance Baker wants to stay. I spooked him (and you) with a question by asking if Baker would sign for 4 years, and $160 mil. You said "no one could know".

well guess what, sport....unless the answer to that question is no then it's kind of hard to say zero percent chance he wants to stay. Never mind the obvious of wondering why you think no one could know if he'd accept such a deal but somehow you can be sure that the poster who said zero chance he wants to stay made a factual comment?

The idea you wont simply own up to my being spot on here (it's not debatable) is why this gets a ya gotta love this forum for your trouble.

Yeah just like I figured, your confusing yourself with some of your serious pretzel logic you use here to attempt to make a point. Then declare yourself the "winner" demand others to "owe up" .

 

[dtgold88]

Yeah just like I figured, your confusing yourself with some of your serious pretzel logic you use here to attempt to make a point. Then declare yourself the "winner" demand others to "owe up" .

Haha. Let's try this.....I realize it's a question - so brace yourself - but do you agree with him that "Baker has zero interest in staying?"

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Haha. Let's try this.....I realize it's a question - so brace yourself - but do you agree with him that "Baker has zero interest in staying?"

Yes you want to have that "zero" in your question so it's an absolute answer and if I answer yes, you'll go on and on and on why zero is incorrect. Mayfield doesn't want to be part of the Browns organization and the Browns really don't want him either, but for now the Browns are negotiating, posturing trying to get the best deal they can. Before the season start's Browns will accept the best deal on the table even if they are disappointed with it. That's how I see it.

 

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so, yes, when he said zero percent chance he exaggerated.

Zero percent chance Mayfield wants to stay with the Browns. He'd unhappily stay there on a bloated contract, but he still wouldn't want to be there.



...and no! I haven't watched it, and i'm not recommending it. I'm just saving everyone time on a 'why zero doesn't mean zero' search.

 

[dtgold88]

Zero percent chance Mayfield wants to stay with the Browns. He'd unhappily stay there on a bloated contract, but he still wouldn't want to be there.



...and no! I haven't watched it, and i'm not recommending it. I'm just saving everyone time on a 'why zero doesn't mean zero' search.

His comment was "Baker has zero interest in staying."

Meaning, if he'd stay for the right price he at least has some interest. Lie, dance, deflect, distort, you cannot really change this as even based on your own comments it's a fact.

 

[dtgold88]

Yes you want to have that "zero" in your question so it's an absolute answer and if I answer yes, you'll go on and on and on why zero is incorrect. Mayfield doesn't want to be part of the Browns organization and the Browns really don't want him either, but for now the Browns are negotiating, posturing trying to get the best deal they can. Before the season start's Browns will accept the best deal on the table even if they are disappointed with it. That's how I see it.

First, I don't think anything you said is out of line at all, but try and follow these little nuggets.....
*His comment was "Baker has zero interest in staying."
*my next comment was this is an exaggeration
*you attempted to disagree with me even though you agree with me and seem know zero is an exaggeration.
*that's why I'd go on and on that zero is incorrect (well, an exaggeration.....because it is)

 

[HaroldSeattle]

First, I don't think anything you said is out of line at all, but try and follow these little nuggets.....
*His comment was "Baker has zero interest in staying."
*my next comment was this is an exaggeration
*you attempted to disagree with me even though you agree with me and seem know zero is an exaggeration.
*that's why I'd go on and on that zero is incorrect (well, an exaggeration.....because it is)

"Baker has zero interest in staying." is really just emphasizing that Baker doesn't want to be part of the Browns organization any longer. It's not worthy of going on and on about zero can't be right and bring 'What if" into the conversation and your derailing the real point being made which is Mayfield doesn't want to be a Brown anymore.

 

[jarntt]

You think they signed Brissett thinking he'd be the starting QB for an entire season? What team has ever done that in the NFL?

I think they signed Brissett to have a backup that they could start for however long Watson is out. Isn't that obviously their plan? They are trying to trade Baker right? Unless Dobbs is their guy

 

[Schmoopy1000]

That's at best just a guess and irrelevant.

Try and stay with the comments, though......The poster said Baker has zero interest in staying here so I asked if he'd sign for $40 mil per for 4 years. If the answer is yes, then wouldn't zero be a bit of an exaggeration?

well if it is said zero percent chance & your argument is yeah but what if he was offered 4 yr 160 mil contract?
the answer would be there is zero percent chance that happens, therefore the chances would still be zero percent.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

well if it is said zero percent chance & your argument is yeah but what if he was offered 4 yr 160 mil contract?
the answer would be there is zero percent chance that happens, therefore the chances would still be zero percent.

 

[dtgold88]

well if it is said zero percent chance & your argument is yeah but what if he was offered 4 yr 160 mil contract?
the answer would be there is zero percent chance that happens, therefore the chances would still be zero percent.

I applaud the effort but if one thinks baker would sign the deal (and he would) then there is not a zero percent chance he would stay.

He'd want to stay for the right opportunity and the right money. Does he want to stay for no guarantee beyond this season to back up Watson? On that, I'd say there is 0% chance he does.

 

[dtgold88]

are you dumb or dumber here? There might be more than 2 attempting to disagree with this (while also agreeing), so maybe dumberer?

 

[Schmoopy1000]

I applaud the effort but if one thinks baker would sign the deal (and he would) then there is not a zero percent chance he would stay.

He'd want to stay for the right opportunity and the right money. Does he want to stay for no guarantee beyond this season to back up Watson? On that, I'd say there is 0% chance he does.

So you want to bounce from realistic to unrealistic?
Whoever mentioned zero percent chance is probably talking in realistic terms. If so you are looking at about zero percent chance.
If you want to look at unrealistic terms. He has about a 100 percent chance to stay. Why not say if the browns offered him to be the owner of the franchise? Would he stay? I mean if you are gonna say unrealistic shit. Go all in.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

are you dumb or dumber here? There might be more than 2 attempting to disagree with this (while also agreeing), so maybe dumberer?

They signed Brissett to be Watson back up. They have been trying to trade Baker. Now it's just haggling for the best deal on the Browns part. Baker will not be on the roster when the season kicks off.