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RB Lives Matter
IIRC, the strongest correlation to winning for RB's is the ability to pass protect.the one thing this doesnt account for, is skill set outside of simply carrying the ball. thats like 1/3 of a RB's job these days.
It's all about the offensive line. With the exception of a few, RB's are pretty much plug and play. Field a good o-line and almost any pro RB will have a great season.RBs do matter. WTF is wrong with you people.
There is truth in that but as a Chicago fan I have watched some great RBs with really bad olines and they still are HOF RBs.It's all about the offensive line. With the exception of a few, RB's are pretty much plug and play. Field a good o-line and almost any pro RB will have a great season.
The premise that RBs don’t matter is plain silly. I agree completely that a team should not invest heavily in a RB. A blanket statement like “they don’t matter” is ridiculous on many levels. Few teams can survive if they don’t have a decent RB group.
For instance, few teams will lose if they can rack up 150-200 run yards by committee. And as has been said, RBs are crucial for most teams in the short, behind LOS passes. Running game, opens up a lot of room for passing game and play action.
that is why I said aside from a select few. Sweetness and Barry Sanders are in that select few categoryThere is truth in that but as a Chicago fan I have watched some great RBs with really bad olines and they still are HOF RBs.
Interesting statistic but hardly tells the story. Depends on the team (QB/O-Line), score, the defense you're playing against, etc. Running backs also don't just run. They are a VERY integral part to the blocking and receiving/screen/check down play. Also, backup runningbacks often come in after a team is getting demolished or the starting back is injured so teams may defensively setup against the pass more.
RB in a lot of cases does more than a receiver... I still think paying a WR HUGE money is stupid lol. There's been VERY few Super Bowl winning teams with a massively paid/stud WR.
Yes a top 3 down back can effect the defensive scheme for example.When you have a 3 down back that can run/catch/Block there is a lot of advantages that dont show up on his stat sheet.
There is a difference between muscling out 3 yards in a stacked box vs. a prevent defense. Not controlling for the defensive scheme makes these garbage stats IMO.
It's not that they aren't important it's just that the gap between one you draft in the 1st round and one you sign as an undrafted FA isn't all that big
The offensive line and scheme are more important when it comes to running the ball.
If you have a choice between drafting an RB or offensive lineman in the 1st round it's a better investment to draft the offensive lineman.
Let's take Elliot as an example. Last season:
Elliot: 304 attempts, 1434 yrds, 4.7 yards/attempt
Smith: 44 attempts, 127 yards, 2.9 yards/attempt
Jackson: 6 attempts, 16 yards, 2.7 yards/attempt
Backups: 50 attempts, 143 yards, 2.86 yards/attempt
And the data was controlled to only include carries in games with a win probability between 20% and 80%
Got it. Yep, I agree with that. By committee is the way to go, and they must be able to catch & block.RB's don't matter does not = Running game doesn't matter
Those are two entirely separate statements. Nobody here is saying that the run game isn't important. We are saying that having a star feature back doesn't make you more or less likely to have a successful ground game. In turn - it doesn't make you more or less likely to succeed as an offense.
For instance, few teams will lose if they can rack up 150-200 run yards by committee
Yes, by committee. Therefore, this statement does not contradict anything which has been put forth in this thread.
Draft RB's mid-late rounds, use them for the duration of their contract and tell them not to let the door hit them in ass on the way out. Next man up... That is how RB's should be treated.
BULL SHITthat is why I said aside from a select few. Sweetness and Barry Sanders are in that select few category
BULL SHIT
Emmitt played with a separated shoulder to win a championship mattered
Jim Brown mattered everytime he took the field.
McCafferty sure as hell matters this year, as does Barkley, Kamara and Elliott. Shit the Cards RB matters.
No question the RB position has been devalued, but you fuckers who claim it's a plug and play position are just plain dumb