Lions currently sowed up the 8th overall pick

[Rollingthndr]

There are some concerns with Campbell's skill set, but speed is not one of them. He's one of the few players who is a legitimate threat to break 4.3 seconds in the 40 this year. He won't be able to prove much about his route running or hands in this environment, but his resume carries some appealing versatility.

Campbell is worth a shot in the 4th round or later if he runs that fast because of high upside. I wouldn't be mad at all.

Campbell is one of the players I was referring in "speed isn't everything". He is only 6'0 and 205lbs. For every Antonio Brown, there are 20 Phillip Dorsett/John Ross types. The reason Metcalf is different is if he runs 4.3, he is also 6'4 and 230lbs. Dudes like that are super rare and we haven't seen one come out since Julio. First, he has to run that fast however.

 

[Rollingthndr]

3 Edge Rushers With The Most To Prove At The Combine | The Draft Network

BB_72; I cannot comprehend why some mocks have Burns going to the Lions at #8. I do not see him as a seal the edge and contain the run. I've watched 3 of his games and clearly saw where he had the opportunity to get involved in the run stop and didn't while his teammates missed tackles or he couldn't shed a block at L.O.S. and therefore was completely taken out of the chance of making a play. He just doesn't have the strength as a run stopper at this point.

Montez Sweat, imo, appears to be so much better as an all-around edge defender than burns from what I've seen in games and it's not even close. Burns has a little more bend but I'm not seeing that great of a difference between him and Sweat.

I know at the draft network, they have Burns ranked #4 overall. Never seen any other site with him that high up.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

I know at the draft network, they have Burns ranked #4 overall. Never seen any other site with him that high up.

Daniel Jeremiah's top 50 prospects for 2019 NFL Draft 2.0

RANK

36

Brian Burns, Edge

7


School: Florida State | Year: Junior
Previous rank: 43

Burns is a tall, skinny edge rusher with excellent length and athleticism. As a pass rusher, he has an explosive get-off and the ability to bend/wrap at the top of his rush. He also has an explosive inside counter move. However, he doesn't have any snap once engaged and fails to convert speed to power. He needs to win early in the down. As a run defender, he lacks the girth and strength to consistently hold the point of attack, but he plays with excellent effort on the back side. Overall, Burns needs to get stronger, but his upside is sky high because of his length and speed.


BB_72; I want to know where Mayock has him ranked

WalterFootball.com: 2019 NFL Draft Big Board

37. Brian Burns Florida State

Big Board: Rob Rang’s Updated Top 50 NFL prospects for 2019 NFL Draft - nfldraftscout.com

41. Brian Burns, OLB/DE, Florida State, 6-4, 240, 4.65

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Position Rankings | NFL Draft Scout

3 *Brian Burns

Florida State round 1-2...……. 6-4 235........ 4.64

he's 3rd as an OLB which is the position where he belongs. imo.

a 3-4 OLB that gets cover from a 5-6 tech.

 

[Rollingthndr]

Daniel Jeremiah's top 50 prospects for 2019 NFL Draft 2.0

RANK

36

Brian Burns, Edge

7


School: Florida State | Year: Junior
Previous rank: 43

Burns is a tall, skinny edge rusher with excellent length and athleticism. As a pass rusher, he has an explosive get-off and the ability to bend/wrap at the top of his rush. He also has an explosive inside counter move. However, he doesn't have any snap once engaged and fails to convert speed to power. He needs to win early in the down. As a run defender, he lacks the girth and strength to consistently hold the point of attack, but he plays with excellent effort on the back side. Overall, Burns needs to get stronger, but his upside is sky high because of his length and speed.


BB_72; I want to know where Mayock has him ranked

WalterFootball.com: 2019 NFL Draft Big Board

37. Brian Burns Florida State

Big Board: Rob Rang’s Updated Top 50 NFL prospects for 2019 NFL Draft - nfldraftscout.com

41. Brian Burns, OLB/DE, Florida State, 6-4, 240, 4.65

Can Mayock work for NFL network and NFL GM at the same time? Isn't he basically giving away the Raiders big board?

 

[Rollingthndr]

Overall, Burns needs to get stronger, but his upside is sky high because of his length and speed.

If you have a pass rusher with "sky high" upside. As long as the combine proves the athleticism. He will go high in the draft. That's just how it is nowadays. Remember Ziggy. Once he proved his athleticism. He went top 5.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Can Mayock work for NFL network and NFL GM at the same time?

It's a must that I know what his top 100 are and top 5 at each position.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

If you have a pass rusher with "sky high" upside. As long as the combine proves the athleticism. He will go high in the draft. That's just how it is nowadays. Remember Ziggy. Once he proved his athleticism. He went top 5.

Ziggy was 6'5 270ish while playing. Burns wasn't and isn't anywhere close to that.

so did Dion Jordan. and Barkevious Mingo. (but I don't know either of their combine numbers and don't give a damn to know)

How'd that work out for either of them other than they're both still earning a pay check.

 

[Old Lion]

NFL combine preview: Defensive players to watch for Lions

Edge defender
If you can't pressure the quarterback in the NFL, you're going to have a tough time slowing down the high-octane passing games proliferating across the league, and also struggle to force game-altering turnovers.

Fortunately, there appears to be a good number of edge rushers in this class, headlined by top-five picks Nick Bosa and Josh Allen.

Despite a decent number of sacks in 2018, pressuring the pocket was a major issue for the Lions last season. If the team doesn't pony up for a top option in free agency — say, Trey Flowers — snagging the best edge defender available remains a realistic possibility with the No. 8 pick. The team could have a choice of Michigan's Rashan Gary, Mississippi State's Montez Sweat or Clemson's Clelin Ferrell at that spot.

► Player to watch for Lions: Gary, Michigan

A five-star recruit, people long have marveled at Gary's athleticism. It should be exciting to see him be able to put that on full display at the combine. Given the right scheme and coaching, there's a huge ceiling for that combination of speed, strength and size.

BB_72; my biggest fear of being drafted @ #8. His physical traits and athleticism and what possibilities MP could do with him.

Allen was the only edge Rusher I would have taken at 8 and he will be long gone most likely

 

[Old Lion]

NFL combine preview: Defensive players to watch for Lions

Linebacker
If you're looking for a weakness with this draft, there aren't many great off-the-ball options. LSU's Devin White is the best this class has to offer, with exceptional speed, range and coverage skills. The drop-off after him could be steep.

There's a thought he Lions could consider White to pair with Jarrad Davis, but that would require one to shift to the weakside, where Christian Jones played decently last season and remains under contract.

Detroit seems more likely to consider depth options in the middle and later rounds, seeking a potential long-term upgrade and better system fit to Jalen Reeves-Maybin and Steve Longa.

► Player to watch for Lions: Tre Lamar, Clemson

It would have been nice to get a closer look at UTSA's Josiah Tauaefa, but there are always going to be a handful of snubs for this event. Lamar is our backup offering.

Big for the position, Lamar is listed at an exaggerated 6-foot-4, 255 pounds. And we know, based on what the Lions targeted last offseason, bigger is better for linebackers in Matt Patricia's defensive scheme.

Lamar is long, physical and can be a load to handle in the box. He also would offer meaningful contributions on special teams.

BB_72; another possibility I could see happening regarding physical attributes. He's quite stiff for C.O.D. and doesn't seem to have the speed/reactionary vision to be suitable for coverage. I like the prospect of Minnesota Cashman more than Lamar.

We will be loading up on LBs during FA and the draft for sure. I just dont like a whole lot in this draft.

 

[Old Lion]

3 Edge Rushers With The Most To Prove At The Combine | The Draft Network

BB_72; I cannot comprehend why some mocks have Burns going to the Lions at #8. I do not see him as a seal the edge and contain the run. I've watched 3 of his games and clearly saw where he had the opportunity to get involved in the run stop and didn't while his teammates missed tackles or he couldn't shed a block at L.O.S. and therefore was completely taken out of the chance of making a play. He just doesn't have the strength as a run stopper at this point.

Montez Sweat, imo, appears to be so much better as an all-around edge defender than burns from what I've seen in games and it's not even close. Burns has a little more bend but I'm not seeing that great of a difference between him and Sweat.

On the fence with Sweat at 8. Not really what I want but I wouldnt have a cow either. He is not a top 10 player IMO. Now if he fell to round 2 then hell yes.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Charles Robinson (@CharlesRobinson) | Twitter

this is the go to source for current measurements ongoing for today

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

On the fence with Sweat at 8. Not really what I want but I wouldnt have a cow either. He is not a top 10 player IMO. Now if he fell to round 2 then hell yes.

I agree with not top 10 also but he sure as hell has a higher floor and higher ceiling than Clemson DE Clelin Ferrell, IMO.

There are a handful of mocks having Ferrell go to the Lions. He's a helluva contain/seal the edge for run but like you have stated regarding Bama players, Ferrell had a huge supporting cast to help him get some of those stats he posted. He's not a bendy/agile/fluid mover or in C.O.D. either. He's a converts power to speed mostly.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

95. #WashingtonState RB James Williams
Height: 5-9 4/8
Weight: 197
Hand: 9 /28
Arm: 30 3/8
Wingspan: 73

BB_72; that's a helluva drop from school listed 6'0 and 205 lbs.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

91. #FloridaAtlantic RB Devin Singletary
Height: 5-7 4/8
Weight: 203
Hand: 8 4/8
Arm: 28 7/8
Wingspan: 70

92. #Kentucky RB Benny Snell
Height: 5-10 3/8
Weight: 224
Hand: 9 3/8
Arm: 31
Wingspan: 74 2/8

90. #MichiganState RB LJ Scott
Height: 6-0 3/8
Weight: 227
Hand: 9 3/8
Arm: 32 1/8
Wingspan: 77 4/8

88. #PennState RB Miles Sanders
Height: 5-10 5/8
Weight: 211
Hand: 9 2/8
Arm: 30 5/8
Wingspan: 74 5/8

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

86. #Pittsburgh RB Qadree Ollison
Height: 6-0 5/8
Weight: 228
Hand: 9 5/8
Arm: 31 4/8
Wingspan: 76 4/8

^^^^ could very likely be UDFA. keep an eye out for him.

84. #IowaState RB David Montgomery
Height: 5-10 1/8
Weight: 222
Hand: 9 2/8
Arm: 31 3/8
Wingspan: 77 3/8

82. #Miami RB Travis Homer
Height: 5-10 3/8
Weight: 201
Hand: 10
Arm: 31 4/8
Wingspan: 75 4/8

^^^^ don't sleep on this guy late late draft. maybe a UDFA also

81. #Georgia RB Elijah Holyfield
Height: 5-10 3/8
Weight: 217
Hand: 9
Arm: 30 3/8
Wingspan: 72 4/8

78. #Memphis RB Darrell Henderson
Height: 5-8 3/8
Weight: 208
Hand: 8 5/8
Arm: 31
Wingspan: 73 7/8

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

77. #Alabama RB Damien Harris
Height: 5-10 1/8
Weight: 216
Hand: 9 6/8
Arm: 30 6/8
Wingspan: 72 7/8

75. #LSU RB Nick Brossette
Height: 5-11 1/8
Weight: 209
Hand: 8 5/8
Arm: 30
Wingspan: 72 7/8

^^^^ damn good pass pro and tough in between the tackles runner. nothing for quick twitch

74. #KansasState RB Alex Barnes
Height: 6-0 3/8
Weight: 226
Hand: 10
Arm: 31
Wingspan: 75

^^^^ another probable UDFA hammer on the nail

72. #Oklahoma RB Rodney Anderson
Height: 6-0 3/8
Weight: 224
Hand: 9 6/8
Arm: 30 6/8
Wingspan: 75 3/8

^^^^ I hope he goes UDFA. He's my sleeper prospect if healthy.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

70. #Stanford RB Bryce Love
Height: 5-8 7/8
Weight: 200
Hand: 9 1/8
Arm: 29 3/8
Wingspan: 72 7/8

69. #Alabama RB Josh Jacobs
Height: 5-10
Weight: 220
Hand: 10 1/8
Arm: 31 5/8
Wingspan: 74 2/8

^^^^ some big damn MITTS

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

68. #Alabama OT Jonah Williams
Height: 6-4 4/8
Weight: 302
Hand: 10 1/8
Arm: 33 5/8
Wingspan: 81 6/8

^^^^ he could become a damn good 2 great LG. imo. Saban wanted to move him to C this past year but had no other player ready for LT.

41. #PennState OL Connor McGovern
Height: 6-5 3/8
Weight: 308
Hand: 9 7/8
Arm: 34 1/8
Wingspan: 82

40. #TexasA&M OL Erik McCoy
Height: 6-3 7/8
Weight: 303
Hand: 9 5/8
Arm: 33
Wingspan: 77 6/8

39. #BostonCollege OL Chris Lindstrom
Height: 6-3 6/8
Weight: 308
Hand: 9 4/8
Arm: 34 1/8
Wingspan: 80 1/8

 

[broncosmitty]

Actually that should have said he could NOT block and had questionable hands.

Just because he cost a first does not mean you keep chasing your losses. Thats a surefire way of failing.

We had winning teams and an offense when he was here.

Now we don't.