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Watch a scoring change happen anyways
 

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who won h2h during the season? most points? Did he win anything?
 

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who won h2h during the season? most points? Did he win anything?
He had more points, I was the sole possession of the two see though, he was three. He beat me once back in week 3
 

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He had more points, I was the sole possession of the two see though, he was three. He beat me once back in week 3
ok well understand the complaint but you are still winner by rules (espn gives u options for tiebreaker but needs to be done before the season starts):suds:
 

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ok well understand the complaint but you are still winner by rules (espn gives u options for tiebreaker but needs to be done before the season starts):suds:


but those rules are glanced over... I don't think it is WRONG for the league to decide after the fact...
 

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I agree with him that it is unfair... But if he doesn't have a valid solution, then the default is the way to go..
I guess my point would be. Regardless if he has a solution. That is posted as the rule. If he was on the other side would we be changing the rule mid season
 

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I guess my point would be. Regardless if he has a solution. That is posted as the rule. If he was on the other side would we be changing the rule mid season


if the solution is fair... then sure... I wouldn't mind changing it mid-season... Its not like you are changing roster rules, or scoring rules...
 

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Look at it this way... There is NO WAY that he can come up with a fair solution in time, that would ALL be voted upon... So basically what you are doing is allowing him to get heard, and squashing it passively... Instead of using the I AM COMMISH ThIS IS thE WAY STRATEGY...


and if he does come up with a fair way, then it is fair...
 

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Look at it this way... There is NO WAY that he can come up with a fair solution in time, that would ALL be voted upon... So basically what you are doing is allowing him to get heard, and squashing it passively... Instead of using the I AM COMMISH ThIS IS thE WAY STRATEGY...


and if he does come up with a fair way, then it is fair...
there is no fair way to change the rules in the middle of the playoffs:suds:
 

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there is no fair way to change the rules in the middle of the playoffs:suds:


but why does the commish have to say that... Especially when he is in the mix...

Tell, the other owner he has until the Thursday night game to Have a solution and vote on it... once the games start you use league default...

By doing this, you let the other owner be heard(or at least lets him feel heard)... also gives him time to realize he is just upset... But also allows, the WHAT IF, what if there is a more fair way to do it...
 

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That's really something that should have a rule in place before the season starts. I run my money league on ESPN, but the tie-breaker for playoff games for my league is bench points. Is that an option on ESPN, nope, but that's what the tie-breaker is. Just because it's set that way on ESPN doesn't mean that you have to follow that, we certainly don't in the MBBRL. Out of curiosity, do you guys use decimal scoring and still tied? I only ask that, because changing to decimal scoring eliminates most instances of ties. If you don't use decimal scoring, I'll bet that would be a fair way to decide who wins, just calculate what each person's score would have been using decimal scoring (but only if that method makes you the winner, LOL). If it was me, since there is no rule in place, the fairest way to do it would be to have both of you advance to the final and have a three way match for the championship. If you pay out multiple spots then what you'd have to do is the most points wins the league, the 2nd most points finishes 2nd, and you'd have to use whoever has the 3rd most points and match their point total up against the other team that lost their semi-final matchup to see who finishes 3rd and 4th. It's not fair to the guy that lost the other semi-final to just automatically finish 4th when he didn't even get a chance to play against anybody this week. Good luck on what you decide. It sucks because it sounds like if you do anything other than let him play for the championship that you are going to lose a player for next year.
 

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That's really something that should have a rule in place before the season starts. I run my money league on ESPN, but the tie-breaker for playoff games for my league is bench points. Is that an option on ESPN, nope, but that's what the tie-breaker is. Just because it's set that way on ESPN doesn't mean that you have to follow that, we certainly don't in the MBBRL. Out of curiosity, do you guys use decimal scoring and still tied? I only ask that, because changing to decimal scoring eliminates most instances of ties. If you don't use decimal scoring, I'll bet that would be a fair way to decide who wins, just calculate what each person's score would have been using decimal scoring (but only if that method makes you the winner, LOL). If it was me, since there is no rule in place, the fairest way to do it would be to have both of you advance to the final and have a three way match for the championship. If you pay out multiple spots then what you'd have to do is the most points wins the league, the 2nd most points finishes 2nd, and you'd have to use whoever has the 3rd most points and match their point total up against the other team that lost their semi-final matchup to see who finishes 3rd and 4th. It's not fair to the guy that lost the other semi-final to just automatically finish 4th when he didn't even get a chance to play against anybody this week. Good luck on what you decide. It sucks because it sounds like if you do anything other than let him play for the championship that you are going to lose a player for next year.
and i say good riddence hes nothing but a sore loser
Hes had all year to look at the rules and say something and milks excuse that most just scan over the rules is nothing but a lame excuse
Hes the #2 seed cause he had the better record its a no brainer:suds:
 

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That's really something that should have a rule in place before the season starts. I run my money league on ESPN, but the tie-breaker for playoff games for my league is bench points. Is that an option on ESPN, nope, but that's what the tie-breaker is. Just because it's set that way on ESPN doesn't mean that you have to follow that, we certainly don't in the MBBRL. Out of curiosity, do you guys use decimal scoring and still tied? I only ask that, because changing to decimal scoring eliminates most instances of ties. If you don't use decimal scoring, I'll bet that would be a fair way to decide who wins, just calculate what each person's score would have been using decimal scoring (but only if that method makes you the winner, LOL). If it was me, since there is no rule in place, the fairest way to do it would be to have both of you advance to the final and have a three way match for the championship. If you pay out multiple spots then what you'd have to do is the most points wins the league, the 2nd most points finishes 2nd, and you'd have to use whoever has the 3rd most points and match their point total up against the other team that lost their semi-final matchup to see who finishes 3rd and 4th. It's not fair to the guy that lost the other semi-final to just automatically finish 4th when he didn't even get a chance to play against anybody this week. Good luck on what you decide. It sucks because it sounds like if you do anything other than let him play for the championship that you are going to lose a player for next year.


that's not the fairest way though, because the other team that made it from a win is being punished because now he has to beat 2 teams...
 

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That's really something that should have a rule in place before the season starts. I run my money league on ESPN, but the tie-breaker for playoff games for my league is bench points. Is that an option on ESPN, nope, but that's what the tie-breaker is. Just because it's set that way on ESPN doesn't mean that you have to follow that, we certainly don't in the MBBRL. Out of curiosity, do you guys use decimal scoring and still tied? I only ask that, because changing to decimal scoring eliminates most instances of ties. If you don't use decimal scoring, I'll bet that would be a fair way to decide who wins, just calculate what each person's score would have been using decimal scoring (but only if that method makes you the winner, LOL). If it was me, since there is no rule in place, the fairest way to do it would be to have both of you advance to the final and have a three way match for the championship. If you pay out multiple spots then what you'd have to do is the most points wins the league, the 2nd most points finishes 2nd, and you'd have to use whoever has the 3rd most points and match their point total up against the other team that lost their semi-final matchup to see who finishes 3rd and 4th. It's not fair to the guy that lost the other semi-final to just automatically finish 4th when he didn't even get a chance to play against anybody this week. Good luck on what you decide. It sucks because it sounds like if you do anything other than let him play for the championship that you are going to lose a player for next year.



that's why my suggestion is ideal... Let him come with the idea... you will see how serious he is about it, after he cools down...
 
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