Odds Redskins Makes Playoffs In 2018

[countryroads316]

Zero percent chance I just don't see it

 

[Stymietee]

Zero percent chance I just don't see it

I wanted to ask for some clarity on this comment, however instead I'll just ask how do you see them finishing next year?

 

[Sharkinva]

Got to ask... why is it we have Zero chance next year?? As your math teacher would say in High School... please show your work.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Cmon - this is the NFL. Beyond the Browns probably every NFL team has at least somewhat of a chance to make the playoffs next season. Honestly who saw the Saints, Jags & Rams making the playoffs this season?

You can't even really begin to predict the Skins chances until you see how their roster unfolds. Will Cousins return? Who will they draft? Which players are they looking at in free agency? Will they have much better health next season?

They very likely could finish the season 8-8 which is a minor miracle given their injuries. The OP appears to look at this season as a total failure, but there are some positives that you can take from this season. They are building depth by default due to injuries & developing young talent. IMO they have a shot of doing fairly well next season with decent health & a good draft assuming they retain Cousins. Time will tell.

 

[Stymietee]

Let me remind you all of this If it helps....statistically, in the Dan Snyder era (since 1999) his teams hit the 10 win mark every 6.5 seasons. The last time was 2012. (**1999 and 2005 the others)


**End of the J.K.Cook ERA, begin Snyder.

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

We would have made the playoffs if healthy if healthy

 

[reptec101]

Let me remind you all of this If it helps....statistically, in the Dan Snyder era (since 1999) his teams hit the 10 win mark every 6.5 seasons. The last time was 2012. (**1999 and 2005 the others)


**End of the J.K.Cook ERA, begin Snyder.

Under Snyder we haven't even been average consistently. Any year we would win 8,9 or 10 games (rare) the following year we would win 5... that is until Cousins became starter... and he's doin it with the worse RB core this year,, this year is his most impressive year so far,,, without any front line, a RB combo joke,, and WRs that wouldn't start on half the teams in NFL. The big money contract QB's this year he is better statistically. Stafford's stats are similar but KC has the edge thru 15 games. Carr (though injured some) stats are a joke and even if he stayed healthy would fail miserably in comparison. You can win with KC if you can give him a good reliable pieces around him. He has never had a three headed monster to work with,,, front line, RB and wr's. I shudder to think what his stats would be if he was in Dallas with that front line and RB.

Many teams in need of a QB have more to offer than Redskins. I hope you all embraced the season.

 

[Stymietee]

Under Snyder we haven't even been average consistently. Any year we would win 8,9 or 10 games (rare) the following year we would win 5... that is until Cousins became starter... and he's doin it with the worse RB core this year,, this year is his most impressive year so far,,, without any front line, a RB combo joke,, and WRs that wouldn't start on half the teams in NFL. The big money contract QB's this year he is better statistically. Stafford's stats are similar but KC has the edge thru 15 games. Carr (though injured some) stats are a joke and even if he stayed healthy would fail miserably in comparison. You can win with KC if you can give him a good reliable pieces around him. He has never had a three headed monster to work with,,, front line, RB and wr's. I shudder to think what his stats would be if he was in Dallas with that front line and RB.

Many teams in need of a QB have more to offer than Redskins. I hope you all embraced the season.

I'm not sure why you've regurgitated all of this but, you did omit one little thing.....ALL of it, (except the Snyder bit), including Kirk Starting, happened under Gruden.

BTW: If you stock any team in the league with "good reliable" (meaning average or above average) NFL caliber players you can win games. The goal year in and year out is the SB....winning it!! Honestly, I don't embrace any season as football is another source of entertainment for me. This, just happens to be my home team and I support it through thick and thin. All of that rah-rah shit, fretting over losses, this move or that one, who's coming or going or any of that shit doesn't move the needle for me. Been there, done that, any future grey hairs popping out of my head won't come as a result of worrying about the dumb ass shit that this organization does.

 

[Sportster 72]

I'm not sure why you've regurgitated all of this but, you did omit one little thing.....ALL of it, (except the Snyder bit), including Kirk Starting, happened under Gruden.

BTW: If you stock any team in the league with "good reliable" (meaning average or above average) NFL caliber players you can win games. The goal year in and year out is the SB....winning it!! Honestly, I don't embrace any season as football is another source of entertainment for me. This, just happens to be my home team and I support it through thick and thin. All of that rah-rah shit, fretting over losses, this move or that one, who's coming or going or any of that shit doesn't move the needle for me. Been there, done that, any future grey hairs popping out of my head won't come as a result of worrying about the dumb ass shit that this organization does.

Don't understand your point? Some coaches can screw good to pretty damn good teams, reference Jeff Fisher and the Rams. Oddly Fisher now wants credit for putting a lot of those good players in place but that just justifies my point that he was a crappy coach.

P.S. - Cousin's has been here for that period too, although I don't know exactly what we are getting at.

 

[Stymietee]

Don't understand your point? Some coaches can screw good to pretty damn good teams, reference Jeff Fisher and the Rams. Oddly Fisher now wants credit for putting a lot of those good players in place but that just justifies my point that he was a crappy coach.

P.S. - Cousin's has been here for that period too, although I don't know exactly what we are getting at.

Don't understand your point? Some coaches can screw good to pretty damn good teams, reference Jeff Fisher and the Rams. Oddly Fisher now wants credit for putting a lot of those good players in place but that just justifies my point that he was a crappy coach.

P.S. - Cousin's has been here for that period too, although I don't know exactly what we are getting at.

Responding to previous post directed at me, my first line says it all.

 

[reptec101]

I'm not sure why you've regurgitated all of this but, you did omit one little thing.....ALL of it, (except the Snyder bit), including Kirk Starting, happened under Gruden.

BTW: If you stock any team in the league with "good reliable" (meaning average or above average) NFL caliber players you can win games. The goal year in and year out is the SB....winning it!! Honestly, I don't embrace any season as football is another source of entertainment for me. This, just happens to be my home team and I support it through thick and thin. All of that rah-rah shit, fretting over losses, this move or that one, who's coming or going or any of that shit doesn't move the needle for me. Been there, done that, any future grey hairs popping out of my head won't come as a result of worrying about the dumb ass shit that this organization does.

I regurgitated my point on KC because you tossed out the fact that weve had like 3 or 4 ten win seasons under Snyder in 25 years, (pretty pathetic) and I followed with we then win 5 games right after. Embrace this era (being average with a chance to win) because if KC leaves will go back to a 5 win team... yet again. Here we have a top 10 QB in the league (fool if u think he isnt) QBing an average team. We’re just pieces away from really competing and Snyder will somehow fuck it up by letting KC walk away. Excuse me for throwing up.

 

[Stymietee]

I regurgitated my point on KC because you tossed out the fact that weve had like 3 or 4 ten win seasons under Snyder in 25 years, (pretty pathetic) and I followed with we then win 5 games right after. Embrace this era (being average with a chance to win) because if KC leaves will go back to a 5 win team... yet again. Here we have a top 10 QB in the league (fool if u think he isnt) QBing an average team. We’re just pieces away from really competing and Snyder will somehow fuck it up by letting KC walk away. Excuse me for throwing up.

Well, I hope that you understand that the next 10 win season will come with or without Kirk at the helm, statistically speaking. With him it will be a first, without him it will be the first time since 2012.

I just don't understand why everything must turn into some sort of discussion on Kirk Cousins' ass.

BTW: those 10 win seasons were, 1999, 2005, and 2012. Notice anything? HINT: NONE of them had anything to do with Kirk Cousins the consistent starter!

 

[reptec101]

Well enjoy that once in a half decade double digit win. I personally wont cuz ill know were headed for another five years of 5, 6 win seasons. My point about Cousins is that with him weve done something weve hadnt since Snyder.. and thats 500 or better seasons 2 years in a row... let alone 3. I credit Cousins for that over Gruden, with hardly any support.. imagine with.. but its all good. Hey, are we due for that 10 win season? Wanna get my popcorn ready.

 

[Stymietee]

Gentlemen and lady, if someone could, would you be kind enough to explain why we should or must be satisfied with 8 or 9 win seasons? It won't do if the explanation is....because we haven't done so in back to back seasons since......

I don't know about any of the rest of you, but the baseline for wins in a regular season consistently for me is 16.
unrealistic? perhaps, but you have to admit that double digit wins comes with benefits that single digit win seasons don't. This is true even when 8 or 9 wins get you a division title.

 

[reptec101]

You’re missing my point... and yes.. you should be satisfied with consistant 8 win seasons... whens the last time weve had that? Thats pretty exciting for these parts.

You’re saying they’re must be a reason we sometimes win 10 games... you say we can build on that... yet we never do..... im saying you cant build on the occassional 10 win seasons when they’re all followed by a 5 win season.. its an anomaly. However, you can build on consistant 3 500 or better winning seasons. Theres a core hidden in there (whatever it is) that this franchise has never had during Snyders reign. That hidden core is KC btw. Hey, when he walks and we start winning 5 games every year with the occassional blip of 10 wins youll understand better why im embracing this KC era. Hope im wrong.. hope the new journey man will take us to the promise land... guess will see. Peace.

 

[Stymietee]

I find it interesting that you've correctly pointed out one anomaly and missed the other, that being 3 - 500 or better consecutive seasons. In the entire history of this organization beginning in 1932 Boston, its' winning percentage is 46%. If you check the historical records, you'll find that what you advocate has NEVER been done in all of that time. This team has either been very good or not consecutively. NOT one that builds upon previous mediocre records.

In fact, in the modern era where 16 games are played, we've had one instance where there were finishes of 8-8 to 9-7 wins similar to this current 3 year 9-7, 8-7-1, and either 7-9 or 8-8 this stretch and that happened during the 1999 - 2001 seasons where the finishes were 10-6, 8-8 and 8-8. Want to guess what followed?.....seasons of 7, 5 and 6 wins. So tell me again why I should be satisfied with this?

There's a key piece in all of this and that is, it all happened in the Snyder era. Prior to that we were as I stated, really good (Gibbs/Allen eras) or really bad (everything else) with a few winning seasons sprinkled here and there.

By the way, I find it interesting that any replacement of Kirk is rendered a journeyman, rookie potential scrub or some other descriptive that makes it seem impossible to get along without him. Almost all of us agree that he should stay, of course some will literally cry if he goes.

 

[Breed]

Gentlemen and lady, if someone could, would you be kind enough to explain why we should or must be satisfied with 8 or 9 win seasons? It won't do if the explanation is....because we haven't done so in back to back seasons since......

I don't know about any of the rest of you, but the baseline for wins in a regular season consistently for me is 16.
unrealistic? perhaps, but you have to admit that double digit wins comes with benefits that single digit win seasons don't. This is true even when 8 or 9 wins get you a division title.

Yep. Single digit win seasons which can land you a playoff berth pretty much suck balls.

 

[Breed]

You’re missing my point... and yes.. you should be satisfied with consistant 8 win seasons... whens the last time weve had that? Thats pretty exciting for these parts.

You’re saying they’re must be a reason we sometimes win 10 games... you say we can build on that... yet we never do..... im saying you cant build on the occassional 10 win seasons when they’re all followed by a 5 win season.. its an anomaly. However, you can build on consistant 3 500 or better winning seasons. Theres a core hidden in there (whatever it is) that this franchise has never had during Snyders reign. That hidden core is KC btw. Hey, when he walks and we start winning 5 games every year with the occassional blip of 10 wins youll understand better why im embracing this KC era. Hope im wrong.. hope the new journey man will take us to the promise land... guess will see. Peace.

IMO this team's best chance to build upon a good/promising season after 2005 when we went 10-6 and won a playoff game under Joe Gibbs. Unfortunately, Antonio Pierce suddenly became expandable in someone's mind after a very good 2004 season. This had an effect on not just the MLB position, but the WLB position as well. As Lamar Marshall who was imo a diamond in the rough discovery in 2004 at WLB after LaVar's injury and would've been fine remaining our WLB. Was moved to MLB in 2005 and simply didn't have the size/girth at 6'2" 230 pounds to be a MLB. The other moves defensively speaking that ended up being terrible moves after the 2005 season. Was letting both safety Ryan Clark and #3 CB Walt Harris walk away, both of which simply didn't make any sense.

Shit-canning an offense that Mark Brunell had become comfortable in during 2005 and bringing in Al Saunders from KC to run his offense in 2006, which he was never really allowed to do, till Todd Collins took over as QB in 2007. As well as a ridiculous who's dick is bigger contest. That resulted in Clinton Portis being hurt in the first 2006 preseason game and never healthy were some big boo boos as well.

 

[Sharkinva]

Cant even begin to speculate until we see what the Skins do with the roster. How guys on IR (aka half the roster) respond to rehab.

At this very moment, I have a graphic representation of our chances though

 

[reptec101]

I find it interesting that you've correctly pointed out one anomaly and missed the other, that being 3 - 500 or better consecutive seasons. In the entire history of this organization beginning in 1932 Boston, its' winning percentage is 46%. If you check the historical records, you'll find that what you advocate has NEVER been done in all of that time. This team has either been very good or not consecutively. NOT one that builds upon previous mediocre records.

In fact, in the modern era where 16 games are played, we've had one instance where there were finishes of 8-8 to 9-7 wins similar to this current 3 year 9-7, 8-7-1, and either 7-9 or 8-8 this stretch and that happened during the 1999 - 2001 seasons where the finishes were 10-6, 8-8 and 8-8. Want to guess what followed?.....seasons of 7, 5 and 6 wins. So tell me again why I should be satisfied with this?

There's a key piece in all of this and that is, it all happened in the Snyder era. Prior to that we were as I stated, really good (Gibbs/Allen eras) or really bad (everything else) with a few winning seasons sprinkled here and there.

By the way, I find it interesting that any replacement of Kirk is rendered a journeyman, rookie potential scrub or some other descriptive that makes it seem impossible to get along without him. Almost all of us agree that he should stay, of course some will literally cry if he goes.

1999, 2000, 2001... three QBs under center... is that the three game stretch we were 500 or better? Jesus.. when has this team ever since Theismann had a QB to play 48 straight games and lead the league, or been right up there with the top Qb’s stat wise? Joey had Riggins and a number of pretty good RBs not to even mention a great line. I dont really care what weve done since inception of this club.. only under Snyder do I care... and under Snyder we have never been this well balance under center. So really to answer the original thread question... aoOur chance of making the playoffs is 90 percent providing they retain KC and can stay healthy with a few added pieces.