What do we know?

[Southieinnc]

We have a great defense which will almost certainly be better next year.
We have the GOAT coach who is under fire mainly for his GM duties.
Vrabel was fired for good reasons.
Nick Caserio just plain sucks.
There are no known "good coaches" available.
Flores might be Belichick II
Mayo may not be ready.
Whatever we do on offense will be very painful to change
Whatever we do on offense will likely be an improvement - if it involves change.
The only thing we got from Zappe vs. Mac is change.
I doubt very strongly that BB gets fired.....

Please weigh in.....

 

[YankeeRebel]

We have a great defense which will almost certainly be better next year.
We have the GOAT coach who is under fire mainly for his GM duties.
Vrabel was fired for good reasons.
Nick Caserio just plain sucks.
There are no known "good coaches" available.
Flores might be Belichick II
Mayo may not be ready.
Whatever we do on offense will be very painful to change
Whatever we do on offense will likely be an improvement - if it involves change.
The only thing we got from Zappe vs. Mac is change.
I doubt very strongly that BB gets fired.....

Please weigh in.....

I think we keep BB as coach and bring in a GM. Rumors are rumors but Pioli is floating aroiund.

Vrabel is the media needing click bait

 

[Carnzo]

Keep BB and bring back Pioli and see if they can make magic again.

 

[Yankee Traveler]

We have a great defense which will almost certainly be better next year.

Our best...maybe two best CB's were out, Gonzo and the little Jones, along with Judon. Defensive unit will do nothing except get better.

We have the GOAT coach who is under fire mainly for his GM duties.

GOAT. Spread himself to thin maybe?

Vrabel was fired for good reasons.

Yeah. He also worked with...two different GM's? Or three?

Nick Caserio just plain sucks.

Hmm...

There are no known "good coaches" available.

There are a couple "Good" coaches. Good coaches are only average though.

Flores might be Belichick II

Bill is the GOAT. There will never be a Belichick II

Mayo may not be ready.

Hmm

Whatever we do on offense will be very painful to change

A QB that can move in the pocket, throw the ball downfield with accuracy and an Oline that can give him a little bit of time doesn't seem insurmountable...?

Whatever we do on offense will likely be an improvement - if it involves change.

The bar is low...nowhere to go but up!

The only thing we got from Zappe vs. Mac is change.

Yeah, that's funny.

I doubt very strongly that BB gets fired.....

Yeah, well..."There are no known "good coaches" available." And we don't want good, we want great.

Please weigh in.....

Down about 5 at 214 last I stepped on the scale. This Saturday will be telling. back off the bad carbs and no deserts.

 

[Southieinnc]

Our best...maybe two best CB's were out, Gonzo and the little Jones, along with Judon. Defensive unit will do nothing except get better.

Another CB coming back.....

Patriots Draft Pick Now '100% Cleared' After Lost Rookie Season

Expect to see Isaiah Bolden back on the field when the New England Patriots reconvene for spring workouts.

nesn.com

 

[Southieinnc]

I think we keep BB as coach and bring in a GM. Rumors are rumors but Pioli is floating aroiund.

Vrabel is the media needing click bait

Mike Vrabel Rumors: Firing Partly Caused By Patriots HOF Speech

Mike Vrabel reportedly sowed the seeds of his Titans firing with the way he conducted himself during his Patriots Hall of Fame celebration.

nesn.com

 

[Carnzo]

Mike Vrabel Rumors: Firing Partly Caused By Patriots HOF Speech

Mike Vrabel reportedly sowed the seeds of his Titans firing with the way he conducted himself during his Patriots Hall of Fame celebration.

nesn.com

I think this was what my wife was talking about.
Thanks for posting

 

[Yankee Traveler]

Mike Vrabel Rumors: Firing Partly Caused By Patriots HOF Speech

Mike Vrabel reportedly sowed the seeds of his Titans firing with the way he conducted himself during his Patriots Hall of Fame celebration.

nesn.com

Wow...Amy Adams Skank has got an emotional security issue if she fired Vrabel for that.

 

[sharkymcwrath]

Nick Caserio just plain sucks.

The Texans are in the playoffs with what appears to be a franchise QB of the future in his rookie season and a stellar Oline. The HC looks like he's going ot be the real deal.

What am I missing here?

 

[sharkymcwrath]

I think this was what my wife was talking about.
Thanks for posting

I completely disagree with the premise of that article. Vrabel was inducted into their Hall of fucking Fame. What's he supposed to do, say it fucking sucks in NE but thanks for the jacket?

If that has ANYTHING to do with why he was fired then that chick in TN has that team headed to the basement for a long time.

But I don't believe it.

 

[Southieinnc]

The Texans are in the playoffs with what appears to be a franchise QB of the future in his rookie season and a stellar Oline. The HC looks like he's going ot be the real deal.

What am I missing here?

He's a dick.

 

[sharkymcwrath]

He's a dick.

But what does that have to do with the Patriots? And he obviously doesn't suck as was suggested in the OP.

 

[Southieinnc]

But what does that have to do with the Patriots? And he obviously doesn't suck as was suggested in the OP.

I dislike Caserio for his close relationship with Jack Easterby. The 2 of them knifed the entire coaching and managing personnel in Houston. Their methods to take power I cannot agree with.

 

[sharkymcwrath]

I dislike Caserio for his close relationship with Jack Easterby. The 2 of them knifed the entire coaching and managing personnel in Houston. Their methods to take power I cannot agree with.

Fair enough. The Easterby thing always struck me as odd but whatever.

Still, Cesario appears to have built a winner in Houston after having significant contributions to the winner in NE.

 

[BigKen]

According to sources and reports, nothing OFFICIAL, the New England Patriots have cleaned house from top to bottom.

Media is scrambling to contact as many staff and coaches as possible.

 

[BigKen]

Conflicting reports. One says that Kraft will have a press conference this afternoon. Others are saying annou7ncements will be Tuesday after all of the Wildcard games have been played.

 

[BigKen]

What do we know?

Not much about the Patriots' coaching staff.
Not much about who will be the Patriots' GM.

One thing we do know. When the Patriots are out of the playoffs, this forum goes pretty quiet.

February will be the worst.

March will bring the new 2024 NFL year. It will bring Free Agency. It will bring renewed enthusiasm and hope.

It will eventually bring April and the two biggest events of the year.

The U.S. Tax Deadline ......and

2024 NFL Draft.

That much we know.

 

[sharkymcwrath]

I just read that the Patriots are likely not to hire a gm and will stick with Groh and Wolf. So they’re still the Patriots.

Reports coming out that BB wanted to trade Mac but Kraft wouldn’t let him.

Also read that BB didn’t want O’Brien. That was Kraft.

Maybe the issue is Kraft.

 

[Southieinnc]

I just read that the Patriots are likely not to hire a gm and will stick with Groh and Wolf. So they’re still the Patriots.

Reports coming out that BB wanted to trade Mac but Kraft wouldn’t let him.

Also read that BB didn’t want O’Brien. That was Kraft.

Maybe the issue is Kraft.

There are many times in life where it's just time for a change.
Obama got elected 1st time by keeping his mouth shut and saying things would change.
I left several good jobs just because I was ready for a change.
I left some really good girls because I was ready for a change.
Changes can be painful - think of divorce!

 

[nefansince75]

I just read that the Patriots are likely not to hire a gm and will stick with Groh and Wolf. So they’re still the Patriots.

Reports coming out that BB wanted to trade Mac but Kraft wouldn’t let him.

Also read that BB didn’t want O’Brien. That was Kraft.

Maybe the issue is Kraft.

Wouldn't be the first time but many owners do far worse.

I've never been a big fan of Kraft, but haven't been a big critic either. He caused the problem with Parcels, though Parcels' resolution was far worse. However I'll give him credit for being a pretty good owner despite the douchey persona he often presents. What does "We are all Patriots" have to do with anything? It's just the name of the team and has no spiritual meaning.