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tedman2012
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manny mo and chris had a wonderful year and we lose alot of the bad parts of the team . i hate to see brob go but he isn't the old brob . tilly is a young proven pitcher
This is a roster with 90+ win talent but not enough baseball smarts. Even if they were average in one run games you're looking at 93 wins probably.
Fair point... but if you take out the random fluctuations from the team's true talent level, the regular-reason records might look like this:
2012: 85-77 to 87-75
2013: 90-72 to 93-69
(Essentially, you would be swapping the 2012 record with the 2013 record. The general upward trend would also be more obvious in this case.)
Here's another way to take a look at talent: runs scored and runs allowed.
2012: 712 RS, 705 RA (AL average: 721 RS, 713 RA)
2013, extrapolated to 162 games: 757 RS, 707 RA (AL average: 707 RS, 699 RA)
Interpretation: In 2012, we had average hitting and average pitching. In 2013, pitching is still average (although slightly worse than in 2012), but hitting has improved. That means adding another front-end starter and rebuilding the bullpen would help this team become more competitive in 2014.
who is a true ace ? all we need to do is to sign a barry zito or a lackey or josh hamiltonAgreed! We need better pitching (true Ace) and better bullpen arms.
Fair point... but if you take out the random fluctuations from the team's true talent level, the regular-reason records might look like this:
2012: 85-77 to 87-75
2013: 90-72 to 93-69
(Essentially, you would be swapping the 2012 record with the 2013 record. The general upward trend would also be more obvious in this case.)
Here's another way to take a look at talent: runs scored and runs allowed.
2012: 712 RS, 705 RA (AL average: 721 RS, 713 RA)
2013, extrapolated to 162 games: 757 RS, 707 RA (AL average: 707 RS, 699 RA)
Interpretation: In 2012, we had average hitting and average pitching. In 2013, pitching is still average (although slightly worse than in 2012), but hitting has improved. That means adding another front-end starter and rebuilding the bullpen would help this team become more competitive in 2014.
the main problem is we don't take walks . hardly ever do they make the pitcher get them out most of the time they get themselves out swinging at ball 4
numbers are tainted slightly, and should be separated...pre-allstar break, and post all-star break...post allstar is nothing more then below average, ESP WITH RUNNERS IN SCORING POSITION,