Trade offer

[beantownmaniac]

Team A sends Sammy Watkins and receives Michael Crabtree, Ameer Abdullah

 

[broncosmitty]

Team A sends Sammy Watkins and receives Michael Crabtree, Ameer Abdullah

PPR I'd rather have Abdullah.

NonPPR I'd rather not.

 

[beantownmaniac]

PPR I'd rather have Abdullah.

NonPPR I'd rather not.

It's 2 for 1 and it is PPR.

 

[broncosmitty]

It's 2 for 1 and it is PPR.

I think AA is line for a lot of targets as a receiver this year.

I'm not confident with him having a ton of success as a ball carrier. (No left tackle.)

 

[beantownmaniac]

I think AA is line for a lot of targets as a receiver this year.

I'm not confident with him having a ton of success as a ball carrier. (No left tackle.)

Ok, sure but the deal is Watkins for Abdullah AND Crabtree who has led the Raiders in targets and receiving TD's the past 2 years.

 

[broncosmitty]

Ok, sure but the deal is Watkins for Abdullah AND Crabtree who has led the Raiders in targets and receiving TD's the past 2 years.

That's his ceiling though imo. And he'll be thirty in a month.

 

[beantownmaniac]

That's his ceiling though imo. And he'll be thirty in a month.

Wow.............................................now I feel old

 

[TKOSpikes]

Assuming Abdullah is a needed piece, it's a good deal..... if Abdullah produces. I've been back and forth on him myself.

 

[TREFF]

Well, Abdullah is always hurt, Watkins is always hurt. . so it comes down to, is the difference between Watkins and Crabby a starting RB? Hell no, not in any format. I'm not even sure there's a measurable difference in their respective values unless you want to look 3 years or further from now

Gimme the Crabby and Abdullah side

 

[Stomp]

I like Crabby, but you should probably be asking for more Watkins is young and a lot of guys value him as a low end WR1 with upside.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Well, Abdullah is always hurt, Watkins is always hurt. . so it comes down to, is the difference between Watkins and Crabby a starting RB? Hell no, not in any format. I'm not even sure there's a measurable difference in their respective values unless you want to look 3 years or further from now

Gimme the Crabby and Abdullah side

Abdullah was doing a local interview the other day and talking about being injured last year. He said it was the first time in his life he has missed games because of injuries.

 

[TREFF]

Abdullah was doing a local interview the other day and talking about being injured last year. He said it was the first time in his life he has missed games because of injuries.

Well that's either a lie, or he wasn't injured all those other times, he was faking

 

[Barilko]

Crabby Abby side for me

 

[ehb5]

Well, Abdullah is always hurt, Watkins is always hurt. . so it comes down to, is the difference between Watkins and Crabby a starting RB? Hell no, not in any format. I'm not even sure there's a measurable difference in their respective values unless you want to look 3 years or further from now

Gimme the Crabby and Abdullah side

Watkins upside is significantly higher than Crabtrees

 

[TREFF]

Watkins upside is significantly higher than Crabtrees

Is it though? How long do we give guys with "potential" that benefit? I would love to agree, as strictly physical ability speaking, yes Watkins is better than Crabby.. but results, and most of all, dependability/availability have to eventually outweigh the maybes, mightbes and couldbe's. And even if they don't, that potential isn't worth a starting RB

 

[ehb5]

Is it though? How long do we give guys with "potential" that benefit? I would love to agree, as strictly physical ability speaking, yes Watkins is better than Crabby.. but results, and most of all, dependability/availability have to eventually outweigh the maybes, mightbes and couldbe's. And even if they don't, that potential isn't worth a starting RB

I think so. I think Watkins potential is as high as anybody's. Not saying he'll be the top WR but the potential is there. Crabtree (while a very good player) I cant see performing any better than he has these past 2 seasons.

I would agree the potential isnt enough though if it were just potential. But Watkins has been fantastic when hes played. Hes not like Fournette or Corey Davis where you just have to hope. Hes shown he can be a stud at the NFL level.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I think so. I think Watkins potential is as high as anybody's. Not saying he'll be the top WR but the potential is there. Crabtree (while a very good player) I cant see performing any better than he has these past 2 seasons.

I would agree the potential isnt enough though if it were just potential. But Watkins has been fantastic when hes played. Hes not like Fournette or Corey Davis where you just have to hope. Hes shown he can be a stud at the NFL level.

However thus far he's also shown he can't play a entire season and he's played enough seasons to downgrade him for that.

 

[femurov]

I guess this is a dynasty league, so it really depends on how close you are to being ready to make a run and what you need. I think I lean towards the AA and Crabby side.

 

[TREFF]

I think so. I think Watkins potential is as high as anybody's. Not saying he'll be the top WR but the potential is there. Crabtree (while a very good player) I cant see performing any better than he has these past 2 seasons.

I would agree the potential isnt enough though if it were just potential. But Watkins has been fantastic when hes played. Hes not like Fournette or Corey Davis where you just have to hope. Hes shown he can be a stud at the NFL level.

I've seen enough good to great games to confidently say that IF he'd ever play a full season, up to his potential, he'd probably be a high end WR2/low WR1..Crabby is a mid to upper WR2 already. . the difference between a low end 1/ high #2 and a strong WR2, to me, is like a handcuff type RB, or possibly a lesser end of a time share. .. not a guy like Abdullah

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I've seen enough good to great games to confidently say that IF he'd ever play a full season, up to his potential, he'd probably be a high end WR2/low WR1..Crabby is a mid to upper WR2 already. . the difference between a low end 1/ high #2 and a strong WR2, to me, is like a handcuff type RB, or possibly a lesser end of a time share. .. not a guy like Abdullah

Well to be fair Abdullah hasn't proved anything yet, this season going to be real important to his career. He needs to step it up and produce or his stock is going to drop like walking off a cliff.