Top 32 tournament LF Henderson vs Rice

[obxyankeefan]

Top 32 players ranked by BRWAR(as of 6/18/15).

Leftfield Bracket is:

1 B Bonds 5
32 L Brock 1

16 Z Wheat 3
17 S Magee 6

8 M Ramirez 11
25 M Minoso 0

9 T Raines 11
24 J Kelley 0

4 R Henderson
29 J Rice

13 B Williams
20 J Medwick

5 C Yastrzemski
28 B Veach

12 G Goslin
21 J Cruz

3 T Williams
30 R White

14 J Burkett
19 B Johnson

6 P Rose
27 R Kiner

11 F Clarke
22 L Gonzalez

2 S Musial
31 H Manush

15 J Jackson
18 W Stargell

7 E Delahanty
26 J Sheckard

10 A Simmons
23 B Downing

1 B Bonds
17 S Magee

8 M Ramirez
9 T Raines

 

[obxyankeefan]

Rickey Henderson Statistics and History | Baseball-Reference.com

Jim Rice Statistics and History | Baseball-Reference.com

 

[MilkSpiller22]

does milkspiller22 really have to answer this... Milkspiller22's answer is obvious... Milkspiller22 thinks milkspiller22 should pick Rickey Henderson...

Milkspiller thinks Milkspiller chose correctly!!!

 

[soxfan1468927]

I can't find the "Fear Factor" stat anywhere on Jim Rice's baseball-reference page. Must be a typo.

 

[StanMarsh51]

I can't find the "Fear Factor" stat anywhere on Jim Rice's baseball-reference page. Must be a typo.

It's in the same section where it would be on Nolan Ryan's page...

 

[calsnowskier]

As highly rated and well respected as Ricky is, I still think he is one of the most under-rated players of all time. Dude was a flat-out beast.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Like the Winfield Sheffield one, I figured this one to be closer then it is.

 

[calsnowskier]

Like the Winfield Sheffield one, I figured this one to be closer then it is.

Nothing against Rice, but Ricky is just that dominant. I think he would be in serious contention for an all-time 25-man roster.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Nothing against Rice, but Ricky is just that dominant. I think he would be in serious contention for an all-time 25-man roster.

A lot of it has to do with his Yankee days, but I always thought Ricky was overrated. He deserves the accolades he gets, but his attitude turned me against him.

 

[calsnowskier]

A lot of it has to do with his Yankee days, but I always thought Ricky was overrated. He deserves the accolades he gets, but his attitude turned me against him.

I never got the sense that his attitude was a detractor. He was just an eccentric.

The fact that he ended up playing in the minor leagues at the end of his career actually made me like him even more. He CLEARLY loved the game and was going to have to be dragged off the field. He was not going to retire voluntarily. You gotta respect that.

 

[obxyankeefan]

I never got the sense that his attitude was a detractor. He was just an eccentric.

The fact that he ended up playing in the minor leagues at the end of his career actually made me like him even more. He CLEARLY loved the game and was going to have to be dragged off the field. He was not going to retire voluntarily. You gotta respect that.

It is funny what each person remembers of certain players. My three biggest memories of Ricky are watching the game where he broke the season SB record. Him saying his hamstring hurt and he couldn't play and the Yankees questioning his heart. His I am the greatest speech the same day as Nolan threw his 7th No-No.

Ricky's numbers say he was a top 25 player of all time. My memory says he was a shit. Which one do we trust?

 

[calsnowskier]

It is funny what each person remembers of certain players. My three biggest memories of Ricky are watching the game where he broke the season SB record. Him saying his hamstring hurt and he couldn't play and the Yankees questioning his heart. His I am the greatest speech the same day as Nolan threw his 7th No-No.

Ricky's numbers say he was a top 25 player of all time. My memory says he was a shit. Which one do we trust?

Media plays a lot into how we picture players, I think. The Bay Area media tends to like to paint their local sports stars as heroes. NY tends to like to destroy them (there are obviously exceptions).

 

[navamind]

Lol

 

[navamind]

#24 (Dwight Evans) should have been retired and inducted into the HOF before Rice. He wasn't better than Reggie Smith either.

Rice was a very good hitter, but he was arguably feared more by the worms in the dirt than pitchers. Rice had three seasons where he grounded into 30+ double plays, and the two highest single season totals of all-time were achieved by him (36 in 1984, 35 in 1985).

 

[DragonfromTO]

It is funny what each person remembers of certain players. My three biggest memories of Ricky are watching the game where he broke the season SB record. Him saying his hamstring hurt and he couldn't play and the Yankees questioning his heart. His I am the greatest speech the same day as Nolan threw his 7th No-No.

Ricky's numbers say he was a top 25 player of all time. My memory says he was a shit. Which one do we trust?

Were you a Mattingly fan? He doesn't have an MVP on his mantle without Rickey (hell, I still think Rickey should have won it).

As for the hammy thing, wasn't that specifically a Lou Piniella complaint rather than a "Yankees" complaint? And it's not like Piniella has a spotless record when it comes to problems/fights with his players.