Top 32 tournament 2B Lajoie vs Robinson

[obxyankeefan]

Top 32 players ranked by BRWAR(as of 6/18/15).

2Basemen Bracket is:

1 R Hornsby 6
32 J Franco 0

16 J Gordon 1
17 J Kent 4

8 B Grich 7
25 J Evers 0

9 F Frisch 5
24 N Fox 2

4 J Morgan 12
29 D Pedroia 3

13 C Biggio 8
20 R Cano 3

5 R Carew 9
28 L Doyle 0

12 W Randolph 5
21 B Doerr 4

3 N Lajoie 12
30 C Knoblauch 0

14 J Robinson 16
19 B McPhee 1

6 C Gehringer 11
27 D Pratt 0

11 R Alomar 13
22 T Phillips 0

2 E Collins 6
31 C Childs 1

15 C Utley 8
18 B Herman 4

7 L Whitaker 8
26 B Myers 1

10 R Sandberg 13
23 T Lazzeri 2

1 R Hornsby 14
17 J Kent 0

8 B Grich 6
9 F Frisch 0

4 J Morgan 8
13 C Biggio 3

5 R Carew 10
12 W Randolph 1

3 N Lajoie
14 J Robinson

6 C Gehringer
11 R Alomar

2 E Collins
15 C Utley

7 L Whitaker
10 R Sandberg

1 R Hornsby
8 B Grich

4 J Morgan
5 R Carew

 

[obxyankeefan]

Nap Lajoie Statistics and History | Baseball-Reference.com
Beat Chuck Knoblauch 12-0

Jackie Robinson Statistics and History | Baseball-Reference.com
Beat Bid McPhee 16-1

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I hate analyzing pre 1920s players... I have trouble knowing what type of player he was...
Lajoie seems like he was a middle of the lineup bat, while Jackie was a top of the lineup bat...

so this is how I would rank the 2 players.

Power hitting- lajoie
Speed- Robinson
walks- Robinson
SOs- Robinson( Lajoie had less but in a time of low strike outs)
defense- Lajoie(but VERY CLOSE)
BA- Lajoie but again very close
intangibles- Robinson
Career longevity- Lajoie

Pretty much both players look like they would be elite at their role... So I guess I have to go lajoie here...

 

[calsnowskier]

I hate analyzing pre 1920s players... I have trouble knowing what type of player he was...
Lajoie seems like he was a middle of the lineup bat, while Jackie was a top of the lineup bat...

so this is how I would rank the 2 players.

Power hitting- lajoie
Speed- Robinson
walks- Robinson
SOs- Robinson( Lajoie had less but in a time of low strike outs)
defense- Lajoie(but VERY CLOSE)
BA- Lajoie but again very close
intangibles- Robinson
Career longevity- Lajoie

Pretty much both players look like they would be elite at their role... So I guess I have to go lajoie here...

Robinson was only a 2B for 5 years. Granted, those were 5 elite years, but it is really hard to compare 18 seasons to 5 seasons.

For me, this was a no-brainer.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Robinson was only a 2B for 5 years. Granted, those were 5 elite years, but it is really hard to compare 18 seasons to 5 seasons.

For me, this was a no-brainer.

I am surprised you say that though... Of course you are right, but we tend to give some players the benefit of doubt to longevity... We do it for Shoeless joe, we do it for players who lost years because of WW2, we do it for Jackie and many others... If Jackie came into the league before he was 28 he would have played 2B for longer and not been 'disqualified'

 

[calsnowskier]

Thare are valid counters to just about every argument, and that is a valid counter.

But I can only judge what I KNOW.

Why isnt Josh Gibson or Sadaharu Oh included in these tourneys? Because we are looking at MLB activity.

 

[DragonfromTO]

I am surprised you say that though... Of course you are right, but we tend to give some players the benefit of doubt to longevity... We do it for Shoeless joe, we do it for players who lost years because of WW2, we do it for Jackie and many others... If Jackie came into the league before he was 28 he would have played 2B for longer and not been 'disqualified'

Speak for yourself.