Top 14 NHL Goaltenders (NHL.COM)

[Comeds]

Gee he happened to have one of the best teams ever assembled in front of him & they could only score 1 goal against Team USA. A team that because of the idiots who put it together didn't even have all their best players. I still think Quick is the better goalie. His record in Game 7's speaks for itself.

So you are partially judging a goalie by how much his team scores yet you largely discount offense provided by a defenseman?

 

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I would argue that in some ways Olympic Gold is harder to win than a Stanley Cup - It only comes around once every four years and once you get to the eliimination round, you are one and done (i.e. a bad game/bad bounce does you in, unlike a best-of-7 series).

 

[KennyBanyeah]

So you are partially judging a goalie by how much his team scores yet you largely discount offense provided by a defenseman?

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

I just watched that movie a couple weeks ago. Holy shit it was hilarious!

 

[KennyBanyeah]

I just watched that movie a couple weeks ago. Holy shit it was hilarious!

You actually watched Chopping Mall?? Great movie.

Great movie poster!!

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

You actually watched Chopping Mall?? Great movie.

Great movie poster!!

Yeah, it was hilarious. I loved the soundtrack too.

 

[KennyBanyeah]

Yeah, it was hilarious. I loved the soundtrack too.

It's pretty damn funny.

I'm a big fan of so-bad-they're-funny B movies.

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

It's pretty damn funny.

I'm a big fan of so-bad-they're-funny B movies.

Same here. Always loved watching MST3K. Rifftrax is great too.

 

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[forty_three]

Well, I had been looking for a signature line change.

 

[TiLoBrown]

Schneider at 6? Needs MORE wins for me

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

I would argue that in some ways Olympic Gold is harder to win than a Stanley Cup - It only comes around once every four years and once you get to the eliimination round, you are one and done (i.e. a bad game/bad bounce does you in, unlike a best-of-7 series).

With the players Canada has to choose from they could probably put three teams together & win all three medals.

 

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With the players Canada has to choose from they could probably put three teams together & win all three medals.

As many times as I've seen this posted throughout the years, it is always tough to win gold (came away without a medal in '98 and '06 with our supposed best team). A great save by Luongo in OT in 2010 prior to the Crosby golden goal could have us looking at things very differently.

 

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Back on topic, the fancy stats don't look too great for Jonathan Quick...

Analytic Punching Bags: Players whose perceived value exceeds actual value.

1. D Jack Johnson, CBJ: Columbus significantly better team with JJ off the ice since assuming top-four role.

2. D Andrew MacDonald, Phi: A magnet for consistently negative shot and goal differentials.

3. G Jonathan Quick, LA: Cup- and Conn Smythe-winning goalie just 14th in EVSV% last 3 years.

4. F Tyler Bozak, Tor: A passenger who has earned first-line role as by-product of Kessel's success.

5. G Marc-Andre Fleury, Pit: EVSV% last 3 years sits behind Neuvirth, Garon, Budaj & Bryzgaolov.

6. D. Brooks Orpik, Was: Defensive defenseman ineffective at deterring scoring chances or zone time against.

7. F Ryan Callahan, NYR: Decent, hard-working second-line winger paid to contribute like a top-tier goal-scorer.

8. F Milan Lucic, Bos: Negative possession player in Bruins even-strength machine.

9. F Chris Stewart, Buf: Weak 5-on-5 player whose only discernible value is raw shooting talent.

10. F David Bolland, Fla: A third or fourth line center being paid to log first or second line minutes.

Yost: Poster boys and punching bags of analytics - Article - TSN

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

As many times as I've seen this posted throughout the years, it is always tough to win gold (came away without a medal in '98 and '06 with our supposed best team). A great save by Luongo in OT in 2010 prior to the Crosby golden goal could have us looking at things very differently.

God damn Bryan McCabe ended up on that fucking team. That squad was fucking doomed that very second.

 

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God damn Bryan McCabe ended up on that fucking team. That squad was fucking doomed that very second.

We had a ton of old horses on that team (and left Crosby at home).

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Back on topic, the fancy stats don't look too great for Jonathan Quick...

Analytic Punching Bags: Players whose perceived value exceeds actual value.

1. D Jack Johnson, CBJ: Columbus significantly better team with JJ off the ice since assuming top-four role.

2. D Andrew MacDonald, Phi: A magnet for consistently negative shot and goal differentials.

3. G Jonathan Quick, LA: Cup- and Conn Smythe-winning goalie just 14th in EVSV% last 3 years.

4. F Tyler Bozak, Tor: A passenger who has earned first-line role as by-product of Kessel's success.

5. G Marc-Andre Fleury, Pit: EVSV% last 3 years sits behind Neuvirth, Garon, Budaj & Bryzgaolov.

6. D. Brooks Orpik, Was: Defensive defenseman ineffective at deterring scoring chances or zone time against.

7. F Ryan Callahan, NYR: Decent, hard-working second-line winger paid to contribute like a top-tier goal-scorer.

8. F Milan Lucic, Bos: Negative possession player in Bruins even-strength machine.

9. F Chris Stewart, Buf: Weak 5-on-5 player whose only discernible value is raw shooting talent.

10. F David Bolland, Fla: A third or fourth line center being paid to log first or second line minutes.

Yost: Poster boys and punching bags of analytics - Article - TSN

This is like an aggregation of every sports discussion board conversation about each of these players in the past 3 years. I mean, what person with half a brain's perceived value of MacDonald or Bozak was higher than it actually is? It might be lower, even...

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

We had a ton of old horses on that team (and left Crosby at home).

That was the dumbest shit ever.

 

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This is like an aggregation of every sports discussion board conversation about each of these players in the past 3 years. I mean, what person with half a brain's perceived value of MacDonald or Bozak was higher than it actually is? It might be lower, even...

Quite true, however now we have statistical analysis to back up the anecdotal evidence.

/Also, puckhead will be quite happy to see that there is additional information confirming that Jack Johnson sucks.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Quite true, however now we have statistical analysis to back up the anecdotal evidence.

/Also, puckhead will be quite happy to see that there is additional information confirming that Jack Johnson sucks.

In addition to being a bad hockey player, he's also a shitty musician.