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And that is why MVP and other similar accolades are just a piece of the puzzle.

Not the end all be all in the legacy narrative.

Nobody going to argue that Steve Nash was better than Kobe.
Well sure, but casuals might have dumb opinions looking back at history because of it. Not that it matters because fuck the casuals.

Duffman's OPOY idea is really smart, and would solve most of this bs.
 

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That's a really smart comment, hadn't thought of that. Very good idea, would fix a lot of this bullshit.

It really would.

OPOY, DPOY and MVP.

Make a rule that the MVP has to be on a team with one of the 4 best records in the league.

Best player on one of those teams.
 

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Practice safe sex?

(Kidding kidding)
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It really would.

OPOY, DPOY and MVP.

Make a rule that the MVP has to be on a team with one of the 4 best records in the league.

Best player on one of those teams.
Honestly don't think you even have to make that a rule, it would usually be that way. Gotta give the opening in case someone goes bananas on a 6 seed or whatever.
 

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Kawhi out a couple more games @Mecca
Fn bullshit costing me money. I was going to win as I ended up with a fantasy team with Luka, Kawhi, Jdub, Cade, etc. now the last 3 of those have missed all week, along with Kuminga who was contributing. Pisses me off!

Oh wait, I have Markenan too, frick.
 

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Honestly don't think you even have to make that a rule, it would usually be that way. Gotta give the opening in case someone goes bananas on a 6 seed or whatever.
I think if you do that you have to make the offensive and defensive winners eligible for the MVP too. We might be 2 or 3 years away from the same guy deserving all 3.
 

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I think if you do that you have to make the offensive and defensive winners eligible for the MVP too. We might be 2 or 3 years away from the same guy deserving all 3.
Right, players can and have won DPOY and MVP before in the same season so gotta have that possibility with OPOY too.

It would be weird if someone won OPOY and DPOY but not MVP though lol
 

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Honestly don't think you even have to make that a rule, it would usually be that way. Gotta give the opening in case someone goes bananas on a 6 seed or whatever.

Then they get OPOY.

Think it goes back to the point that @trojanfan12 made.

Everyone has different criteria that matter to them. Some narrowing or definition of what voters should look for in an MVP would help.

Because the rules haven’t been consistent from year to year. And because it is so incredibly subjective, it does cheapen the accolade somewhat.
 

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My top 5
1. MJ
2. Lebron
3. Kareem
4, 5. Larry and Magic, Magic and Larry. I can’t seperate them and I see no reason to.
Cool story.

Didn’t you say Larry was better because he scored more, rebounded more?


Because, if that’s the case, that means …

Luka > SGA.

He scores more, rebounds more, assists more .

Jerami Grant, Kyle Fucking Kuzma, RJ trash ass Barrett >>>>>>> J Dub.

Stats lie.

I haven’t seen a single reputable all time list that has Larry above, or equal to, Magic.

Because he wasn’t.

Great player.

Great GREAT PLAYER.

Not top 5.
 

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That's a really smart comment, hadn't thought of that. Very good idea, would fix a lot of this bullshit.
How practical do you think it would be to add that kind of award? Like it makes sense in theory, but I don’t know if they’ve ever had any real thought to doing it.
 

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How practical do you think it would be to add that kind of award? Like it makes sense in theory, but I don’t know if they’ve ever had any real thought to doing it.
They wouldn’t do that.

It would basically be the guy that leads the league in scoring.

Don’t they already recognize guys for winning the scoring title?
 

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How practical do you think it would be to add that kind of award? Like it makes sense in theory, but I don’t know if they’ve ever had any real thought to doing it.
They add stuff sometimes, wouldn’t be very difficult if they wanted to. Surprised it doesn’t get discussed more. They have it in the NFL after all
 

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Right, players can and have won DPOY and MVP before in the same season so gotta have that possibility with OPOY too.

It would be weird if someone won OPOY and DPOY but not MVP though lol
Without looking, I’d bet Jordan and Freak either led the league in scoring the year they did it, or were top 3 at minimum.

I just don’t feel like looking it up…lol
 
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