Game Thread: Spurs (38-6) @ Warriors (40-4) 1030 PM EST 1/25/16 NBATV

[CitySushi]

Always amazed how any thread can be turned into a debate about Kobe, Kyrie and Lebron. LOL.

 

[lakersrule]

Always amazed how any thread can be turned into a debate about Kobe, Kyrie and Lebron. LOL.

Steph's getting plenty of love

 

[CitySushi]

Steph's getting plenty of love

Still a weird feeling to see a player in a Warriors jersey getting love from anyone other than a Warrior homer (like myself).

 

[Heatles84]

and when Curry was Irving's age h was not nearly as good as Irving. Just a fact.

You could say the same thing as Wade. Never seen Wade play like Curry. Not all players the same, retard.

 

[Heatles84]

Dude.......

Curry > 5 Kyries...lol

Just stop it.

It says something when Mecca's getting tired of your ass.

 

[Hambombs]

LOL kyrie is nowhere near stephs level right now and I think steph has been better than kyrie his whole career.

 

[Hambombs]

of course Curry is better at age 27 in his prime.

im just saying if you compare Curry and Irving at similar points in their careers- Kyrie has been better. Right?

Wrong

 

[trojanfan12]

Is Wiggy really talking about the Heat on this game thread? WOW

Wiggy gonna Wiggy.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Wiggy gonna Wiggy.

lol...he ows me an apology- that was Gordon!

 

[trojanfan12]

So now you have a crystal ball & can tell how LBJ will end his career?

Haven't you heard? The fountain of youth is in Cleveland. Lebron's gonna play forever.

 

[bksballer89]

Pretty much what I was trying to say earlier this afternoon about OKC. Good read

With all eyes on Warriors and Spurs, don't sleep on the Thunder

 

[WiggyRuss]

Haven't you heard? The fountain of youth is in Cleveland. Lebron's gonna play forever.

did you delete that Steph/Irving comparison? why?

 

[Hambombs]

Pretty much what I was trying to say earlier this afternoon about OKC. Good read

With all eyes on Warriors and Spurs, don't sleep on the Thunder

Good read. Pretty sure they won't sleep on them atleast I don't think they will

 

[WiggyRuss]

Well. Not sure what happened to the comparison I had before- whether deleted or what- but here goes.

Kyrie finished his 4th year last year- lets compare the FIRST 4 years of the Careers of Steph and Kyrie. At the age of 25, Steph Curry finished his 4th season, and Kyrie Irving finished his 4th season at the age of 23- for the sake of comparing apples to apples- lets ignore the fact that while Curry was playing Monmouth, Elon, Wofford and Furman and getting 2 extra years of development- Kyrie Irving was winning the rookie of the year award and getting picked for all star games.

So- the injury thing- Kyrie has missed just a ton of games right? Remember- 2011/12 they only played 66 games.

Kyrie:
Year 1: 51/66
Year 2: 59/82
Year 3: 71/82
Year 4: 75/82
average games played per season= 64

Steph:
Year 1: 80/82
Year 2: 74/82
Year 3: 26/66
Year 4 78/82
average games played-= 64.5

PRETTY MUCH THE EXACT SAME.

What about PER? I think this is one of the predominant stats used to gauge overall performance and is a very good stat for comparing across era's. Not a perfect stat by any means- but one of the better ones.

Kyrie
Year 1: 21.4
Year 2: 21.4
Year 3: 20.5
Year 4: 21.5
Average= 21.2

Steph
Year 1: 16.3
Year 2:19.4
Year 3: 21.2
Year 4: 21.3
AVERAGE: 19.5

Slight edge to Kyrie- who was better during their rookie years, and just a little better their soophomore years, and then it gets very even.

So- what about the ROOKIE OF THE YEAR AWARD? Kyrie Won it- Curry did not.

How many All STar appearances did they each have their first 4 years?
Steph Curry: 0
Kyrie Irving: 3

Steph Curry would eventually make the all star game for the first time at the age of 25. Kyrie Irving- is one of 6 other players to make the all star team BEFORE the age of 21...lets see if you recognize the other guys

KOBE
SHAQ
ISIAH
MAGIC
BRON
KG
and now....
KYRIE

---you need last names? OH you know the last names? cool- cool!

Their stats are VERY SIMILAR....

Curry over a 4 year span shot the ball better as could be expected, Kyrie scored the ball better- and they were EXTREMELY even on the rebounding and assists per game. Kyrie had a historic rookie year all around. Curry's 4th year he really started to come around and you first saw glimpses of what was to come. Take it for what you will. I think the emperical evidence here would point to Kyrie Irving being the better player during the early years of his career- EVEN though he had to do it with 2 less years of experience under his belt. Kyrie made 1 All NBA 3rd team (last year) in the first 4 years of his career- Curry did not make an all NBA team during his first four years. Not that it means a whole lot- but Kyrie did win the All star game MVP in one of those appearances.

First 4 year averages:

Curry: 18.4 pts, 5.9 apg, 3.9 rpg, 47.1% FGA, 44.7% 3PT (DAYUM)

Kyrie: 20.9 pts, 5.7 apg, 3.6 rpg, 45.5% FGA, 39.1% 3PT

 

[WiggyRuss]

what a freak steph curry is to walk into the NBA and shoot almost 45% from 3 his first 4 years on average. Unbelievable. I dont know how he wont go down as the best pure shooter we have seen. His release is INSANELY fast.....it almost defies explanation.

 

[Hambombs]

@WiggyRuss the things that are missing in your comparison post are that point guards are terrible in the east so they had to pick someone. Kyrie would of never made the all star game with guys like Paul Westbrook in it every year. Also Monta would be favored by guys like Keith smart and would sit curry. Monta would take posessions. Which I don't know why.

 

[WiggyRuss]

@WiggyRuss the things that are missing in your comparison post are that point guards are terrible in the east so they had to pick someone. Kyrie would of never made the all star game with guys like Paul Westbrook in it every year. Also Monta would be favored by guys like Keith smart and would sit curry. Monta would take posessions. Which I don't know why.

oh there are tons of ancillary circumstances that are difficult to account for which is what Mecca was saying but if you are comparing some players you have to use SOME kind of metrics.

I mean- you see some obvious things in the stats in these early years- even then Curry was an amazing shooter, however- in that injury plagued year where he only played 26 games and shot only about 11 and a half shots per game- he unsurprisingly shot 49%, when the next year he got 18 shots per game he went down to 45%---- which makes the fact that THIS year he is shooting 19.5 shots per game and is at 51.3% down INSANE, and then just STUPID when you consider OVER HALF those shots are from behind the 3 pt line.


Tell me if i am wrong- but after his 4th year- when he signed that 4 year 44 million dollar extension- I thought it was a bit low- but its not like I was thinking DAMN! Steph Curry was gonna be a max and he just signed for 11 a year!....after that 4th year he was definitely respected- but there is no one out there that would have called him a 10 or probably even top 20 player. He wasnt "Steph Curry" yet at all.

 

[Hambombs]

 

[Hornsstampede2.0]

Duncan truly is injured. He is out again for the Rockets game.
That is why I was more concerned about the long term than the single game result.

Aldridge might be out as well. The SA alerts on my phone suggest he is a game time decision.
I was surprised he played versus GSW at all. I thought he was going to miss that game.
He was hurt before the Warriors game.

It makes me feel a little better about the results....knowing that TD was out and LA was only about 60%.
The SPURS can only beat GSW if they have 100% health in the frontcourt where they have a huge advantage.

They probably would not have won, but the game would have been a better game with both their bigs at full strength.

 

[bksballer89]

Duncan truly is injured. He is out again for the Rockets game.
That is why I was more concerned about the long term than the single game result.

Aldridge might be out as well. The SA alerts on my phone suggest he is a game time decision.
I was surprised he played versus GSW at all. I thought he was going to miss that game.
He was hurt before the Warriors game.

It makes me feel a little better about the results....knowing that TD was out and LA was only about 60%.
The SPURS can only beat GSW if they have 100% health in the frontcourt where they have a huge advantage.

They probably would not have won, but the game would have been a better game with both their bigs at full strength.

That dick Mike Greenberg was criticizing Pop yesterday because he thought he was just sitting out Timmy for no good reason. What a dumbass he is