Heatles84
Well-Known Member
I said I did not make this fucking thread for it to be a Kobe/LeBron fucking circle jerk
That's what I fucking said
You should've known better.
I said I did not make this fucking thread for it to be a Kobe/LeBron fucking circle jerk
That's what I fucking said
The Warriors are an interesting case study. I agree with you on Curry and KD, but I also think they poke a lot of holes in the "more rings = better player" argument. If Curry finishes his career with 6 rings and LeBron has 3, I think many people will rate him higher. But that is so clearly wrong.
My hope is that the possible Warrior dynasty forces people to reconsider their views on the importance of ring count. KD has the talent to finish pretty high on the all time list. Curry is great, but I don't think I can ever put him top 10 no matter how many rings he gets.
The point I was making is that Curry is an elite level perimeter shooter. That doesn't get you into the top 10. Top 20 is arguable.
The Warriors are an interesting case study. I agree with you on Curry and KD, but I also think they poke a lot of holes in the "more rings = better player" argument. If Curry finishes his career with 6 rings and LeBron has 3, I think many people will rate him higher. But that is so clearly wrong.
My hope is that the possible Warrior dynasty forces people to reconsider their views on the importance of ring count. KD has the talent to finish pretty high on the all time list. Curry is great, but I don't think I can ever put him top 10 no matter how many rings he gets.
1. Jordan
2. Magic
3. Lebron
4. Kareem
5. Hakeem
6. Shaq
7. Bird
8. Wilt
9. Kobe
10. Oscar
Duncan to me is the most overrated on all these lists. In my opinion, David Robinson is better than Duncan in almost every aspect, but Duncan always gets ranked ahead of him because of the 5 rings. But when you compare the two in their absolute prime, it's not close.
I also think at the rate Durant is going, he's going to end up in the top 6 somewhere. He may very well finish with like 4-5 rings, which would mean Steph would have 5-6 and he'd be top 10 somewhere too.
No ones trolling, the sad part is you faggots are being dead serious.Troll hates being trolled. Oh the irony.
I have him at 6 dawgActually, there were 3 others besides @Shaqdaddy11 that have him outside the top 5.
This is my 10 as well, though I would have put Hakeem higher1. Jordan
2. Magic
3. Kareem
4. Lebron
5. Wilt
6. Bird
7. Kobe
8. Duncan
9. Shaq
10. Hakeem
And I'll put Russell at 11 for his 11 rings.
No ones trolling, the sad part is you faggots are being dead serious.
Absolutely. Dead serious.
1. Jordan
2. KAJ
3. LeBron
4. Magic
5. Wilt
6. TIMMMMMMMMY
7. Bird
8. Kobe
9. Shaq
10. Dream
In the interest of fairness, this is my list:
1. MJ
2. Magic
3. Kareem
4. Bird
5. Shaq
6. Dr J
7. Hakeem
8. Wilt
9. Lebron
10. Kobe
Timmy pops in there too from time to time. Like I said before, the list changes quite regularly.
Lebron loses another finals and he goes out the top 10. Kobe moves up a spot and Duncan takes his place.
That is crazy.
So LeBron loses a series in which he will be a heavy underdog amidst a ton of drama and he moves down?
Finals record doesn't matter people. Look at the context. Losing to the Warriors should not hurt anyone's legacy.
Consider the first 3 finals teams Kobe faced (Pacers, Sixers, and Nets)
Any of Lebrons finals team post 2010 would go 3-0 too.
Now let's compare all their finals opponents
Kobe: Pacers, Sixers, Nets, Pistons, Celtics, Magic, Celtics
Lebron: Spurs, Magic, Thunder, Spurs, Spurs, Warriors, Warriors, Warriors
Lebron has faced 6 great teams in the finals. Kobe has faced 3. None of those teams Kobe faced are better than an of the Warrior teams. I'd argue those Spurs team are better than the Pistons and Celtics. That 2012 Thunder team was young but more talented than any of the team Kobe faced too.
The finals record is the most overrated and overused argument to justify (insert player) is better than Lebron. If Lebron gets eliminated in the first round or in the east finals in 2007, 2011, 2014, and 2015...now all of a sudden he's 3-1 in the finals
How does that make his resume better? Not advancing as far in the playoffs but having a cleaner finals record.
* See Wilt Chamberlain who is top 5 on most lists.That is crazy.
So LeBron loses a series in which he will be a heavy underdog amidst a ton of drama and he moves down?
Finals record doesn't matter people. Look at the context. Losing to the Warriors should not hurt anyone's legacy.