Sportshoopla Top 25 - Week 9 Discussion Thread

[Edisto_Tiger]

You know what to do.

 

[Hook'Em0608]

@BoiseStateFan27 Did you forget to rank Florida?

 

[Hook'Em0608]

@ericd7633 Dude, your rankings are, lets just say, different than most everyone else's. You using a formula or something or you just feel differently than the masses?

 

[ericd7633]

@ericd7633 Dude, your rankings are, lets just say, different than most everyone else's. You using a formula or something or you just feel differently than the masses?

What do you take issue with?

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

That OSU/Penn State game puts Michigan in a pretty good position and OSU has Northwestern coming up. I thought that was a cupcake game after the first few games of the season but they're really rolling now. They could make things interesting with OSU this week. If OSU trips up again, Michigan is pretty much guaranteed the East division. But on the other side, it allowed us to slip up and still have a shot at a B10 title if we beat OSU at the end of the season.

Also, I hope we can go up 50-0 on MSU.

 

[Hook'Em0608]

What do you take issue with?

I don't necessarily take issue with anything. I just noticed you have Florida St, Tennessee, and Virginia Tech higher than most. Then most of the second tier of undefeated's lower than most. Was just curious if it was a formula giving that result or you.

 

[ericd7633]

I don't necessarily take issue with anything. I just noticed you have Florida St, Tennessee, and Virginia Tech higher than most. Then most of the second tier of undefeated's lower than most. Was just curious if it was a formula giving that result or you.

Not a formula. Teams like Tennessee and FSU have a better resume than teams like Baylor/Nebraska/WVU.

 

[HammerDown]

I say Ohio State takes over at #11 for Houston. I can't justify putting them higher.

 

[Hook'Em0608]

Not a formula. Teams like Tennessee and FSU have a better resume than teams like Baylor/Nebraska/WVU.

I'll post the data and see what it tells me, you could be correct, or not.

Using S&P rankings just because I like formulas for these types of arguments.

Florida St
W Ole Miss #19
W Charleston Southern FCS
L @Louisville #2 (by 43 points)
W @USF #29
L North Carolina #27
W @Miami #23
W Wake Forest #59

Tennessee
W App State #37
W Virginia Tech #12
W Ohio #92
W Florida #9
W @GEORGIA #74
L @Texas A&M #15
L Alabama #3 (by 39 points)

Nebraska
W Fresno St #115
W Wyoming #84
W Oregon #51
W @Northwestern #57
W Illinois #85
W @Indiana #47
W Purdue #112

West Virginia
W Missouri #40
W Youngstown St FCS
W BYU #38
W Kansas St #58
W @Texas Tech #53
W TCU #30

Baylor
W Northwestern St FCS
W SMU #78
W @Rice #113
W Oklahoma St #36
W @Iowa St #97
W Kansas #109

I'll admit they've played the much tougher schedules so far and have better wins, but how can you overlook two losses each and one of each being a complete and total whipping? Top 10 teams don't get beat down like that.

 

[Hook'Em0608]

Just to add, what is stronger about this resume?

Washington
W Rutgers #116
W Idaho #111
W Portland St FCS
W @Arizona #77
W Stanford #55
W @Oregon #51
W Oregon St #88

Yet you have them #4 and West Virginia, Nebraska, and Baylor have similar or better resumes yet they are #11, #12, and #13 respectively.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Just to add, what is stronger about this resume?

Washington
W Rutgers #116
W Idaho #111
W Portland St FCS
W @Arizona #77
W Stanford #55
W @Oregon #51
W Oregon St #88

Yet you have them #4 and West Virginia, Nebraska, and Baylor have similar or better resumes yet they are #11, #12, and #13 respectively.

Washington would curb stomp WVU, NU, and Baylor.

 

[Hook'Em0608]

Washington would curb stomp WVU, NU, and Baylor.

I think they would beat them also, but I don't know about curb stomping. Everybody here would have bet Ohio St curb stomps Penn St last weekend too. That's why you play the games...

He stated resume was his reasoning for ranking 2 loss teams with blowout losses on their resume ahead of those 3 teams. Washington doesn't have a strong resume either. You can't deny that.

 

[Deep Creek]

Washington would curb stomp WVU, NU, and Baylor.

On a neutral field, I think Washington verus WVU and Neb would be toss ups. Baylor is fixing to get exposed...and by the end of the year they might be so bad Rice or SMU would beat them. JMO.

 

[Deep Creek]

I think they would beat them also, but I don't know about curb stomping. Everybody here would have bet Ohio St curb stomps Penn St last weekend too. That's why you play the games...

He stated resume was his reasoning for ranking 2 loss teams with blowout losses on their resume ahead of those 3 teams. Washington doesn't have a strong resume either. You can't deny that.

While Nebraska and Washington may both be good, their schedule really doesn't reflect it...yet. Beating Stanford and Oregon are about as good as early season wins over ND and Texas. Not worth much. They should have a chance to prove themselves in the next few weeks.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

On a neutral field, I think Washington verus WVU and Neb would be toss ups. Baylor is fixing to get exposed...and by the end of the year they might be so bad Rice or SMU would beat them. JMO.

Nebraska needed Oregon to miss out on three two point conversions in order to beat the Ducks in Lincoln. Washington beat that same Oregon team at Autzen by a score of 70 - 21. WVU ... Baylor ..have yet to face a defense like Washington's.

 

[BigAppleBadger]

So Wisconsin loses two straight and stays in the top 10, then gets a convincing quality road win and drops. Ok

 

[ckhokie]

Just hear to remind some of you that we beat UNC 34-3 in Chapel Hill, have the same record, and are statistically ranked ahead of them in pretty much every computer.

 

[ericd7633]

I'll post the data and see what it tells me, you could be correct, or not.

Using S&P rankings just because I like formulas for these types of arguments.

Florida St
W Ole Miss #19
W Charleston Southern FCS
L @Louisville #2 (by 43 points)
W @USF #29
L North Carolina #27
W @Miami #23
W Wake Forest #59

Tennessee
W App State #37
W Virginia Tech #12
W Ohio #92
W Florida #9
W @GEORGIA #74
L @Texas A&M #15
L Alabama #3 (by 39 points)

Nebraska
W Fresno St #115
W Wyoming #84
W Oregon #51
W @Northwestern #57
W Illinois #85
W @Indiana #47
W Purdue #112

West Virginia
W Missouri #40
W Youngstown St FCS
W BYU #38
W Kansas St #58
W @Texas Tech #53
W TCU #30

Baylor
W Northwestern St FCS
W SMU #78
W @Rice #113
W Oklahoma St #36
W @Iowa St #97
W Kansas #109

I'll admit they've played the much tougher schedules so far and have better wins, but how can you overlook two losses each and one of each being a complete and total whipping? Top 10 teams don't get beat down like that.

Thanks for proving my point. FSU has THREE wins better than WVU's best win. Tennessee has THREE wins better than Nebraska's best win. I'm not overlooking anything. My philosophy is not to reward teams that have played shit schedules, and have not been overly impressive against said schedule. If FSU/TENN/Wisconsin played any of those 3 teams they'd beat them IMO.

 

[Hook'Em0608]

Thanks for proving my point. FSU has THREE wins better than WVU's best win. Tennessee has THREE wins better than Nebraska's best win. I'm not overlooking anything. My philosophy is not to reward teams that have played shit schedules, and have not been overly impressive against said schedule. If FSU/TENN/Wisconsin played any of those 3 teams they'd beat them IMO.

So what about Washington then? Did you look at my next post?

 

[ericd7633]

Just to add, what is stronger about this resume?

Washington
W Rutgers #116
W Idaho #111
W Portland St FCS
W @Arizona #77
W Stanford #55
W @Oregon #51
W Oregon St #88

Yet you have them #4 and West Virginia, Nebraska, and Baylor have similar or better resumes yet they are #11, #12, and #13 respectively.

Washington is housing teams. And frankly I don't think Nebraska or Baylor would keep it all that close against UW. WVU might be able to give them a game.