Should Tom Brady still be considered a 1st ballot Hall of Famer?

[Oldschool739]

OS spygate was after the SB's happened in 07 FYI . I see the Eagle and Pitt fans don't think soon or ever, hmmm wonder why and of course Hammer

I know it was after the 3 SB's , that's the point....No one knows if it was being used during those or not, chances are yes, but no proof, just a ?......and it was BB orchestrated, so no one knows how much Tom was involved in that or if at all....
Deflategate is a direct hit on Brady, even if BB had anything to do with it or not....
A qb still has to execute the plays, and he has done that consistently, so HOF ?, pretty sure thing, just may be delayed some by this event....

 

[sonnyblack65]

I know it was after the 3 SB's , that's the point....No one knows if it was being used during those or not, chances are yes, but no proof, just a ?......and it was BB orchestrated, so no one knows how much Tom was involved in that or if at all....
Deflategate is a direct hit on Brady, even if BB had anything to do with it or not....
A qb still has to execute the plays, and he has done that consistently, so HOF ?, pretty sure thing, just may be delayed some by this event....

I hear ya OS and it wont change my life one iota if he gets in first, second , 3rd or never, just find it funny with some hypocrites on here.

 

[Rex Racer]

Sammy Sosa??? I'm so old I that remember when he was black...

Don't feel bad, I'm old enough to remember when Michael Jackson was black

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Here's how it's going down. Tom Brady will retire after 2 more years when he's 40. At this point Steve Spielberg is going to reach out and have Tom cast as the new Indiana Jones. The first movie of course will be called Spygate (since Spielberg and Brady want to troll everyone) as a homage to Brady but it will be an otherwise brilliant film. Brady will be about 45 when post production is complete (a bit younger than Harrison in Crusade but undoubtedly more fit with the football mold).

At this point when the film is released everyone will be cheering HARD for Tom Brady in the 1st ballot and you're going to have all these people at the ceremony dressed up... kids will be using little plastic whips, etc. it's going to be amazing. Tom is going to bust on the stage swinging down on a vine and drop kicking Kurt Warner who is visibly bitching to everyone. The crowd will erupt in cheering and screaming and Tom will throw his Indy hat to a nearby toddler, knocking him out with brute force. The fans start screaming even louder. At this point the NFL committee is all completely dumbfounded when Tom takes out his whip and cracks John Clayton's head off who now looks like Donovan post grail from Last Crusade.

The committee is terrified, nobody knows what to do and Tom simply points to Jason Cole from BleacherReport and says: "Cole, prepare to meat Kali... IN HELL!" and chucks a flaming football at him blowing up his face. The crowd starts cheering super loud and whoever the most famous rock band during the 2020s starts wailing hard on guitars and drums. Everyone is heavily clapping on stage and Tom walks up, accepts his Hall of Fame gold jacket from the huge guy that played in Happy Gilmore complete with nail still stuck in his head. Tom screams out a couple curse words, and then is escorted off the stage by Spielberg and Lucas as they go make a new Indiana Jones.

It will be the most epic HOF ever and I can't wait for the next decade to unfold. Tom will assuredly be first ballot and the most legendary HOF inductee ever.

 

[Oldschool739]

I hear ya OS and it wont change my life one iota if he gets in first, second , 3rd or never, just find it funny with some hypocrites on here.

Our boy Suggs said; he don't think this will hinder Brady at all from getting in the Hall, that he has won with whatever cast he's had to work with consistently and that's all that matters in his opinion...
I'm like you, no skin off my hide either way, just come on football season, the old man is getting pretty impatient right about now...

 

[sonnyblack65]

Our boy Suggs said; he don't think this will hinder Brady at all from getting in the Hall, that he has won with whatever cast he's had to work with consistently and that's all that matters in his opinion...
I'm like you, no skin off my hide either way, just come on football season, the old man is getting pretty impatient right about now...

yeah it was cool a few years ago with Brady was selected#1 by the players and Ray Lewis spoke about Brady, they have respect for each other

 

[Oldschool739]

yeah it was cool a few years ago with Brady was selected#1 by the players and Ray Lewis spoke about Brady, they have respect for each other

Most of the good players do, I think they say things sometimes just to motivate the fans....If it was all hugs and sugar, no one would want to watch anymore...Gotta have some controversy to stir the fires a little....

 

[beantownmaniac]

This.

But change "if" to "when."

There's more.

A lot more. And Ted Wells already knows about it.

Ben Volin | Sunday Football Notes: Why did the American Enterprise Institute take on Deflategate? - Sports - The Boston Globe

"Headlined “Deflating Deflategate,” the report discredited the approach taken by Wells and the scientists at Exponent, finding that they used an “unorthodox statistical procedure” that doesn’t match the methodology described in the report, and didn’t investigate all relevant scenarios — namely, that Wells and Exponent didn’t account for the fact that the Colts’ footballs reinflated after being secured in a warm room for 10 to 12 minutes during halftime."

"Where it went wrong, they finally discovered, was that Wells and Exponent didn’t account for all gauge-switching scenarios, or for the fact that the Colts’ footballs had a chance to warm up before being measured, while the Patriots’ didn’t. They found that the Colts’ footballs were more out of whack for being too inflated than the Patriots’ footballs were for being underinflated."

Sorry haters

 

[Money]

Ben Volin | Sunday Football Notes: Why did the American Enterprise Institute take on Deflategate? - Sports - The Boston Globe

"Headlined “Deflating Deflategate,” the report discredited the approach taken by Wells and the scientists at Exponent, finding that they used an “unorthodox statistical procedure” that doesn’t match the methodology described in the report, and didn’t investigate all relevant scenarios — namely, that Wells and Exponent didn’t account for the fact that the Colts’ footballs reinflated after being secured in a warm room for 10 to 12 minutes during halftime."

"Where it went wrong, they finally discovered, was that Wells and Exponent didn’t account for all gauge-switching scenarios, or for the fact that the Colts’ footballs had a chance to warm up before being measured, while the Patriots’ didn’t. They found that the Colts’ footballs were more out of whack for being too inflated than the Patriots’ footballs were for being underinflated."

Sorry haters

Wasn't it 50 degrees out during the game?

 

[HuskerCradle2Grave]

Of course. Best ILB of all time.

Behind Mike Singletary...

 

[{+}Mother-Marge{+}]

Hmm,.......I think I saw hammered (on video) outside of NFL/HQ earlier trying to get Brady's autograph......did that hot blonde push him out of the way..?,.....anybody got the vid....?!

 

[sonnyblack65]

Most of the good players do, I think they say things sometimes just to motivate the fans....If it was all hugs and sugar, no one would want to watch anymore...Gotta have some controversy to stir the fires a little....

I think you misunderstood my post. I'm saying a great player like Lewis was saying that Brady was the best QB in the game and mutual respect. Peyton had Alex Rodriguez speak on his behalf

 

[Oldschool739]

I think you misunderstood my post. I'm saying a great player like Lewis was saying that Brady was the best QB in the game and mutual respect. Peyton had Alex Rodriguez speak on his behalf

No, I got you...Lewis one time made a remark about Brady was known only because of tuck rule, and Brady made some remarks about Ray stopping him on a play that got called back because of a time out by Rex...
It would have broken the 18-0 season if Rex hadn't messed up, and Tom said, I would've gotten the 1st down anyway....Stuff like that, but mutual respect for each others game....That's what I meant...

 

[sonnyblack65]

No, I got you...Lewis one time made a remark about Brady was known only because of tuck rule, and Brady made some remarks about Ray stopping him on a play that got called back because of a time out by Rex...
It would have broken the 18-0 season if Rex hadn't messed up, and Tom said, I would've gotten the 1st down anyway....Stuff like that, but mutual respect for each others game....That's what I meant...

Yeah I remember that, they were short on 4th down when Rex called the timeout, which as an DC he shouldn't have been able. Lewis was wrong because the only reason that Brady is known is because Bledsoe got injured. It's not like he only went to 1 SB and won. They lose to Raiders, there is always 2003 and 04 plus

 

[Oldschool739]

Yeah I remember that, they were short on 4th down when Rex called the timeout, which as an DC he shouldn't have been able. Lewis was wrong because the only reason that Brady is known is because Bledsoe got injured. It's not like he only went to 1 SB and won. They lose to Raiders, there is always 2003 and 04 plus

Ray later said he didn't mean it disrespectfully but went into one of his philosophical speeches that left you just happy it was over even though you had no idea what he had said....

 

[PatsFan2003]

I think he would have been close to a unanimous 1st round HOFer before. Now that's unlikely. I think he'll still get in round 1.

 

[tducey]

Option 1.

 

[beantownmaniac]

Wasn't it 50 degrees out during the game?

What does that have to do with the facts presented by the scientists from AEI? Goodell withheld evidence to make it look like a slam dunk. But to please you, if the temperature wasn't a factor, why were the Colts footballs even more overinflated than the Pats were underinflated? Both teams footballs weren't the proper weight so both teams and their QB's should face the same fate. If not then this is nothing more than a witch hunt.

 

[Money]

What does that have to do with the facts presented by the scientists from AEI? Goodell withheld evidence to make it look like a slam dunk. But to please you, if the temperature wasn't a factor, why were the Colts footballs even more overinflated than the Pats were underinflated? Both teams footballs weren't the proper weight so both teams and their QB's should face the same fate. If not then this is nothing more than a witch hunt.

It's already been established that temperature wasn't a factor. Those balls were not inflated in a 90-degree room.

 

[Shanemansj13]

1st or 2nd but when he is in...

*Tom Brady