Ryan Braun post PED's

[Malibu]

Ryan Braun's numbers in 2011. In 2011 33hr 111rbi 33sb .332 batting avg. .397 on base % .597 slugging %. This year .289 batting avg. 14 hr 61 rbi .507 slugging 9 sb's .342 on base %. Yet people tell me PED's dont matter and tell me to quit being a hater.

 

[cezero]

Neither MLB nor the Players Union care that players do PED. The "testing" both parties agree to is a joke. It's why Colon has been caught twice and still injects away. It's why the biggest PED bust in history (the biogen scandal) was the result of zero failed drug tests.

People who single out individual players aren't haters, they're just naive.

 

[Loneranger]

I've found it quite curious Braun's #'s have been so widely ignored. He's just another one to prove beyond any doubt this crap makes an enormous difference. Funny how these guys are forced to clean it up and immediately become an avg pedestrian compared to their juiced selves. Maybe we're just numb to it all and expect this so it doesn't become news anymore.

 

[Nasty_Magician]

Well I'd personally much rather watch the 2011 version of Braun. I say make PEDs mandatory.

 

[Mondo Jay]

Ryan Braun= Scumbag. Hopefully he starts hitting for my fantasy team...

 

[Mondo Jay]

I've found it quite curious Braun's #'s have been so widely ignored. He's just another one to prove beyond any doubt this crap makes an enormous difference. Funny how these guys are forced to clean it up and immediately become an avg pedestrian compared to their juiced selves. Maybe we're just numb to it all and expect this so it doesn't become news anymore.

I wonder what Nelson Cruz is still on?

 

[HammerDown]

There are posters on SportsHoopla who will vehemently contend that Ryan Braun might not have even used PEDs. According to their logic, no one has failed a test for 'roids this year, therefore no one is using.

 

[Mondo Jay]

There are posters on SportsHoopla who will vehemently contend that Ryan Braun might not have even used PEDs. According to their logic, no one has failed a test for 'roids this year, therefore no one is using.

Too bad common sense isn't all that common.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

*Hides whatever the hell Melky is using these days*

 

[Lemon Harang Pie]

There are posters on SportsHoopla who will vehemently contend that Ryan Braun might not have even used PEDs. According to their logic, no one has failed a test for 'roids this year, therefore no one is using.

I don't think anyone has every said either of those things.

 

[Jims_Doors]

There are posters on SportsHoopla who will vehemently contend that Ryan Braun might not have even used PEDs. According to their logic, no one has failed a test for 'roids this year, therefore no one is using.

He was in a room with a bunch of other guys who were shootin' up.

Subjected to 2nd hand juice.

 

[navamind]

I don't think anyone has every said either of those things.

They haven't.

 

[Win TWINS!!!]

There are posters on SportsHoopla who will vehemently contend that Ryan Braun might not have even used PEDs. According to their logic, no one has failed a test for 'roids this year, therefore no one is using.

I think you already kicked Dyhard out...

 

[williewilliejuan]

I think you already kicked Dyhard out...

And Gus.

 

[Win TWINS!!!]

And Gus.

Gus wasn't an apologist for Braun, and was pretty level headed about it. Dyhard was simply an idiot. Not sure if it was the drugs or blind homerism.

 

[Malibu]

2011 and 2012 compared to now just proves alot. Even clean he is a good MLB player but the difference in numbers dont lie.

 

[ChicagoIrish]

Braun is a good baseball player, but PED's made him an elite baseball player.

Lol, sucks for him.

 

[HammerDown]

Braun is a good baseball player, but PED's made him an elite baseball player.

Lol, sucks for him.

"Yes, but beside his own confession, can you give me incontrovertible proof that Braun ever took PEDs? Do we know for a fact that he did or are we just rushing to judgement here?" - ImSmartherThanYou

 

[ChicagoIrish]

"Yes, but beside his own confession, can you give me incontrovertible proof that Braun ever took PEDs? Do we know for a fact that he did or are we just rushing to judgement here?" - ImSmartherThanYou

Speaking of PED's, seems like Chris Davis got a bad batch this season.

 

[Toucanbird]

Is this seriously a topic of discussion? Do any of you guys do your research before posting these things?

Braun has been dealing with a nerve issue in his hand that affects his swing. It's a big reason why he missed so much time last year before being suspended.

Ryan Braun opted not to have thumb surgery during PED suspension - CBSSports.com

As for this year, Braun is still dealing with the nerve issue and I know they said surgery could be an option, but that would shelve him for at least two months. If the Brewers lost Braun for two months, would they be able to hold serve in the NL Central for two months? It's an interesting question. The Brewers weren't exactly world beaters without him last year. Braun said in the article I just posted that he isn't too keen on having surgery so I expected him to play with the injury and see how it goes. It is affecting his power numbers to some extent. He can still hit for some power, but he seems to be more of an opposite field contact hitter now. Before anyone says, "that's just an excuse," I'd say missing 23 games this season and a month last season before the PED suspension says otherwise.

Even if he didn't have the nerve issue, I certainly wouldn't complain about having a .290 hitter with 14 HRs 61 RBIs and a .504 SLG% on my team. I mean shit, those are still pretty damn good numbers. Sure, they weren't MVP numbers like he was putting up in 2010 and 2011, but they're certainly not numbers to scoff at. He does lead the team in RBIs and SLG%, only behind Lucroy, Gennett, and Gomez in average and third on the team in home runs only behind Reynolds and Davis. I'll hold out on Braun's average a bit too considering he was hitting .300 before that abysmal road trip to Tampa where he went 0-for-12. His BA dropped 10 points because of that bad road trip. He seems to hit fairly well in St. Louis and is hitting .333 against the Cards this year, so we'll see how that goes.

...are you guys really still hung up about the whole Braun thing? Don't you guys have better things to do? We've got all this stuff going on in MLB right now and you're still hung up on the Braun thing? Really?