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You do know the Phillies actually signed Marlon Byrd for 8 mil a year also, lol.....
Down year last season on account of injuries. With KCs defense I'd expect over 200 innings with an ERA under 4. There's room for a Vargas on most pitching staffs.
He certainly will have no excuses to not have an above average year production wise.
I am surprised about all the positive reviews from many posters I have seen on several websites. I understand that the K and Defense will help him quite a bit. And I must say, I do like Eiland as a pitching coach. But honestly? It feels like we could have gotten a Phil Hughes or Josh Johnson type pitcher for the same pay grade and it would be just as good, if not better in all likelihood (or in my opinion anyway). The signing just seems unfulfilling when the expectations are to make the playoffs with Shields and develop the young pitching talent at the same time.
You're just like Angels fans.
You won't understand Vargas' value until you see how rock steady he is. $8 mill/year for what he'll give you is a bargain.
Anybody with an understanding of the value of competent starting pitching will understand by June 2014 or earlier.
I suppose I just want my god damn playoffs right fucking now with Shields still as a Royal. Judging from all the positive reaction, it does seem to appear that I am out of line in my judgment of Vargas. I do think his production will meet the War/$ that should be considered. I am probably just being a picky fan.
I am surprised about all the positive reviews from many posters I have seen on several websites. I understand that the K and Defense will help him quite a bit. And I must say, I do like Eiland as a pitching coach. But honestly? It feels like we could have gotten a Phil Hughes or Josh Johnson type pitcher for the same pay grade and it would be just as good, if not better in all likelihood (or in my opinion anyway). The signing just seems unfulfilling when the expectations are to make the playoffs with Shields and develop the young pitching talent at the same time.
I suppose I just want my god damn playoffs right fucking now with Shields still as a Royal. Judging from all the positive reaction, it does seem to appear that I am out of line in my judgment of Vargas. I do think his production will meet the War/$ that should be considered. I am probably just being a picky fan.
Hughes sucks and Johnson cant stay healthy
none of these three are anything more than a 3 or 4 on the rotation anyway. Ideally, we'd have a better 2 than Guthrie, but until we decide to spend more money, we'll have to wait until Duffy, Ventura or Zimmer prove they can handle it.
We arent making the playoffs anyway. Still too many holes in the lineup, and the bullpen cant be expected to repeat what they did last year.
Marlon Byrd actually played well this season and that contract isn't going to cripple the Phillies for years to come
lol, yeah, Byrd played well LAST season, another year older should really refine him...before that?....no, its only 2 years to come....this with a guy by the name of Howard on his team also, lol, you really want to talk about overpaying and years to come, lol
Shields could be traded THIS year at the trade deadline if Duffy and Ventura do what they should...Guthrie the year after that...
4 years is perfect...and Vargas, at least has a chance to replicate his best years for each year of the contract...Byrd will be lucky to match his AT Bats from this season.