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[jeffro151]

Gordon still obsessed with Brad.....

He has a right to be, does he not? Keselowski's actions last week directly affected Gordon not making the final round.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Harvick was on a completely different level than the rest of the field today.

Boy was I glad to see that white flag wave.

 

[Chewbaccer]

He has a right to be, does he not? Keselowski's actions last week directly affected Gordon not making the final round.

I don't like neither driver.

I hope the two fight again.

But at best it was a racing incident.

At worst, Gordon came down on Keselowski.

 

[Chewbaccer]

But, for the love of God, if Harvick can't win it next week, please do not let Denny Hamlin win the title.

 

[Chewbaccer]

I don't mind Newman or Logano.

 

[gsmack28]

He has a right to be, does he not? Keselowski's actions last week directly affected Gordon not making the final round.

If the video didn't show Jeff coming down into Brad, maybe Jeff has a right to be pissed.

 

[Mistaken4193]

I think Harvicks got it next week. If he don't win then I would like to see Newman get it done.

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

Missed the whole race...don't care, my girl has been out of it for three weeks.

Want Newman next week to finish second and errbody else to DNF.

 

[Chewbaccer]

I think Harvicks got it next week. If he don't win then I would like to see Newman get it done.

I'm in the same boat.

With what's on the line, non championship eligibles better get out of the way though.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Before the Chase started I said there were only 6 realistic choices to make the final 4.

They were:

Kevin Harvick
Brad Keselowski
Jeff Gordon
Joey Logano
Jimmie Johnson
Dale Earnhardt Jr

Only two of my top 6 advanced to the final 4, Harvick and Logano.

I picked Hamlin to be eliminated after the first round.

I picked Newman to be eliminated after the round of 12.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Those that think Brad caused the Gordon deal last week, you should be infuriated with Newman this week.

He literally ran Larson into the wall to get the position to advance to the next round and leave Gordon eliminated.

Personally, I'm a huge fan of Newman's move. It was an aggressive move with the season on the line.

I don't like Brad Keselowski in the least, but last week he made an aggressive move with his season on the line, and while Keselowski did fill a relatively small hole, there was a hole and Gordon did move down on Keselowski.

 

[Edisto_Tiger]

I like ol Newman. That rub to get into the final round reminded me of a Big E move. You do what you have to in that situation.

 

[wildturkey]

Didn't watch the race and I haven't bothered to look the highlights up. I'm just posting to say once again (for the 3rd time) The Chase format has robbed Jeff Gordon of a championship. This year, without question, he's been the best driver. And now he's on the outside looking in as a guy with no wins (Newman) and a guy that missed a fucking race and only made it because he won the crapshoot that is a restrictor plate race (Hamlin) have the opportunity to win a "championship". But that's what happens when you let pure bullshit determine your champion. Excellence and consistency are tossed aside for manufactured drama because your organization is too stupid to know how to promote a race by itself.

 

[gsmack28]

Funny that Newman putting Larson in the wall hurt Jeff as much as the incident with he and Brad last week.

Karma, I'll have all you got.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Didn't watch the race and I haven't bothered to look the highlights up. I'm just posting to say once again (for the 3rd time) The Chase format has robbed Jeff Gordon of a championship. This year, without question, he's been the best driver. And now he's on the outside looking in as a guy with no wins (Newman) and a guy that missed a fucking race and only made it because he won the crapshoot that is a restrictor plate race (Hamlin) have the opportunity to win a "championship". But that's what happens when you let pure bullshit determine your champion. Excellence and consistency are tossed aside for manufactured drama because your organization is too stupid to know how to promote a race by itself.

The Chase has robbed drivers that would have been champions under the pre Chase format since the beginning. The drivers know what they have to do to win the championship. Using the format as an excuse is weak sauce.

 

[Chewbaccer]

What I'm hoping for next week is Tony Stewart somehow finding a way to keep his streak of winning at least one race in every season of his career in tact with Harvick finishing second and winning the championship.

Gordon has nothing to lose, so I could see him taking out Brad K, but it wouldn't really accomplish anything since Brad is eliminated as well.

 

[bksballer89]

The chase format is bullshit but they opted for this entertaining format instead crowning a true champion.

No offense but only 2 of the 4 would actually deserve the title based on what they did all year long.

Hamlin or Newman doesn't deserve to win the title.

 

[Edisto_Tiger]

The points system has changed many times over the course of NASCAR history. I think the reason the old points system is so entrenched is because it was around for so long, 35 years. There have been numerous changes to the points over the years though and some of them are head scratchers:


Original formula: 1949-1951
Points based on amount of prize money paid.
Example: Race purse of $1,000 paid 50 points-first place, 45-second, 40-third, 35-fourth, 30-fifth.
Race purse of $3,500 paid 175 points for first place, 157.5-second, 140-third, 122.5 fourth, 105- fifth, etc.

1952-1953 formula:
Same formula, purses rose. A minimum purse of $4,000 paid 200 points for first place, 192-second, 184-third, 176-fourth, 168-fifth.
A minimum purse of $25,000 paid 1,250 points for first, 1,200-second, 1,150-third, 1,100- fourth, 1,050 fifth, etc.

1954-1962:
Competitors were awarded points per the old system with additional points awarded per a separate schedule.

1963-1965 formula:
Events paying $4,200-$6,000 awarded winner 400 points with each succeeding position receiving 16 fewer points.
Events paying $7,000-$10,000 awarded points per the point schedule listed in the 1963 NASCAR
Rule Book. Events paying over $10,000 awarded points on the basis of 50 points per $1,000 posted by promoter.

1966-1967 formula:
Events paying basic prize money in the $5,000 and less than $7,000 category awarded the winner 400 points,
with each succeeding position receiving 16 fewer points.
Events- $7,000-$10,000 awarded the winner 500 points, with each succeeding position receiving 20 fewer points.

1968-1971 formula:
Events to 249 miles: 50 points to win, with one less point for each succeeding position.
Events 250-399 miles: 100 points to win, with two less points for each succeeding position.
Events 400 miles and over: 150 points to win, with three less points for each succeeding position.

1972 formula (start of the modern era):
Tracks under 1 mile....................0.25 point per lap
1 mile tracks..............................0.50 " " "
1.3 mile track(Darlington)............0.70 " " "
1.5 mile tracks...........................0.75 " " "
2 mile tracks (Michigan)...............1.00 " " "
Tracks 2.5 miles and over............1.25 " " "

1973 formula:
100 points to win, with two less points for each succeeding position: 100, 98, 96, etc. (Race winner received 25 points in addition to the first position points.)
Additionally, lap points were awarded for the number of laps completed per the following schedule:
0 up to 1 mile tracks.........0.25 points per number of laps completed.
1 mile tracks...................0.50 points " " "
1.3 mile track..................0.70 points " " "
1 ½ mile track.................0.75 points " " "
2 mile track....................1.00 points " " "
2 ½ mile track.................1.25 points " " "

1974 formula
Money winnings from track purses (qualifying and contingency awards did not count), in dollars, multiplied by the number of races started, and the resulting figure divided by 1,000 determined the number of points earned.

1975 formula:
NOTE: Driver who led a lap (under Green or Yellow Flag) got FIVE bonus points
Driver who led the most laps got FIVE Bonus Points
from 1975 thru 2003 the winning driver was awarded 175 points
from 2004 thru 2006 the winning driver was awarded 180 points
from 2007 thru 2010 the winning driver was awarded 185 points
the rest of the points awarded by position remained the same

Winner = 185
2nd = 170
3rd = 165
4th = 160
5th = 155
6th = 150
7th = 146
8th = 142
9th = 138
10 = 134
11 = 130
12 = 127

13-43 get 3 less points per position.

 

[Chewbaccer]

The chase format is bullshit but they opted for this entertaining format instead crowning a true champion.

No offense but only 2 of the 4 would actually deserve the title based on what they did all year long.

Hamlin or Newman doesn't deserve to win the title.

But if they win, they will have survived the gauntlet and be crowned as champions. The championship format is the championship format, and if Hamlin or Newman win the championship, you can't hold the format against them.

All 16 drivers who made the chase knew what they needed to do to have a shot at the championship. Newman and Hamlin didn't have any bad races during the Chase. The others did and couldn't win the races they needed to.

 

[Nascar Addict]

It's going to go down to the wire with this new playoff formula. That's for sure.