Power Struggle in Boston

[DirtDirtDirt]

Kraft ain't goin' anywhere.....he's the owner, he writes the checks.
Brady ain't goin' anywhere....he's the catalyst that generates the electricity and success on the field.

Belichick is the third man out if there is truly a division and parting of the ways.

If you read the article, it's almost as if Wickersham was present for every single meeting between any of the three and was allowed to sit in and tape them. Problem is, the guy has never been inside the Gillette inner sactum. I've been in BB's office. I did some insurance work in BB's Ass't office and Nick Carserio's office on the third floor. There are no windows and the office door is solid steel with no window. There are no exterior windows. The office is not accessible without a special laser key.

MY guess is that Wickersham's piece is about 5% fact, 90% conjecture, and 5% bullshit.

LMFAO

 

[dbldwn711]

In other words...

Blockbuster.

No but much more. A quality veteran backup QB at reduced price and a kicker in the compensatory picks.

2nd round pick
Player
Money
Bonus in compensatory picks.

It isn't hard. Read it slowly. Get help with the big words

 

[YankeeRebel]

Anyone else comfortable saying if the Pats win the SB this will be Brady's last. Not sure how anyone else feels but there are some things I am seeing that make me think TBs decline has begun.

 

[Ricky Roma]

Hahahaha

So he should have spent a high draft choice on somebody nobody would have drafted high or on somebody that wasn't on some teams draft boards?

Again...he was looking for a backup to his known product in Bledsoe, and got lucky.

 

[soxfan1468927]

No but much more. A quality veteran backup QB at reduced price and a kicker in the compensatory picks.

2nd round pick
Player
Money
Bonus in compensatory picks.

It isn't hard. Read it slowly. Get help with the big words

I don't know if that compensatory thing is legit.

 

[dbldwn711]

Damn dude you must have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night

Thanks but being smarter than the OP and the other resident haters here isn't hard... as you know.

 

[dbldwn711]

Again...he was looking for a backup to his known product in Bledsoe, and got lucky.

Uh-huh...

Luck. Got it.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

The patriots got much more than a second round pick.

For one, they got Hoyer in the deal. The pats would not have traded Jimmy to the 49ers unless the 49ers agreed to RELEASE Hoyer as opposed to include him in the trade. The pats would have never traded Jimmy to the Browns (or any other team) bc nobody else could given them a back up QB they were comfortable with. Why did the pats insist that hoyer be released as opposed to included in the deal? Two reasons.

First, hoyer has guaranteed money left on his existing contract. By releasing hoyer the 49ers must pay him that money. If he had been included in the trade the pats would have had to pay it. Now, the pats can sign hoyer for less money bc part of his salary is being paid by the 49ers.

Second, by not including hoyer in the trade the pats don't get dinged on the compensatory pick formula that is done every year. Now I'm gonna pretend that I understand the formula, how it works, how hoyer not being traded affects that, etc but I did read that including hoyer in the deal would have adversely affected the pats in that formula therefore he was released.

So, the pats REALLY got a second round pick, a veteran backup QB that they are comfortable with at a reduced price for the next couple of years and a little bump in the compensatory pick formula.

They also had a dependable back up for four years. At 2nd round money. Even though the haters would claim he wasn't dependable because of his limited amount of time on the field.

They upgrade the draft position by about 20 spots.

Let's at least wait until after the draft to see what NE actually gets from the 2nd round pick. Shortly after the announcement of "The NE Patriots with the 41st/42nd pick of the 2018 draft have..." we can all read how it was a reach, or BB got fleeced. Plenty of time folks just wait a few more months.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

I don't know if that compensatory thing is legit.

Im sure whatever that is, the league will see to it that the Pats benefit

 

[YankeeRebel]

Thanks but being smarter than the OP and the other resident haters here isn't hard... as you know.

Very true and why I often back out of these long drawn out drama filled threads. I guess I am feel cantankerous today.

 

[dbldwn711]

I don't know if that compensatory thing is legit.

Patriots-49ers: Brian Hoyer originally part of Jimmy Garoppolo trade, but yanked because of compensatory draft picks

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Anyone else comfortable saying if the Pats win the SB this will be Brady's last. Not sure how anyone else feels but there are some things I am seeing that make me think TBs decline has begun.

Totally agree....Him falling short will be even more interesting

 

[Sir Robin Of Camelot]

No but much more. A quality veteran backup QB at reduced price and a kicker in the compensatory picks.

2nd round pick
Player
Money
Bonus in compensatory picks.

It isn't hard. Read it slowly. Get help with the big words

Rationalize it however you want.

Could have had a deal with Cleveland last offseason and reaped a couple of Ones... henceforth expediting the next era of Patriots football... got this instead.

Enjoy your upcoming mediocrity.

 

[soxfan1468927]

Patriots-49ers: Brian Hoyer originally part of Jimmy Garoppolo trade, but yanked because of compensatory draft picks

Looks legit. So the Patriots didn't want to risk one of their 4th round comp picks. Wasn't guaranteed they would, but just didn't want the risk.

So they didn't "gain" a comp pick, they just didn't lose one. Wouldn't really add that to the list of things the Pats got in the deal.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Im sure whatever that is, the league will see to it that the Pats benefit

Does the NY gang get to make those decisions?

I never thought I'd like anyone from NY. I'm starting to change my mind.

If the Giants keep Eli I'll like even more New Yawkers

 

[YankeeRebel]

Rationalize it however you want.

Could have had a deal with Cleveland last offseason and reaped a couple of Ones... henceforth expediting the next era of Patriots football... got this instead.

Enjoy your upcoming mediocrity.

Well if they are Browns picks in relationship to the QB position was mediocrity a foregone conclusion?

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Rationalize it however you want.

Could have had a deal with Cleveland last offseason and reaped a couple of Ones... henceforth expediting the next era of Patriots football... got this instead.

Enjoy your upcoming mediocrity.

Come on even the evil darth hoodie wouldn't vanish a team guy like JG to the Browns. Rumor is BB has a very small heart.

Rgeardless I could see BBs love of Cleveland and keeping him in the AFC makes more sense then trading to the NFC where he may see him once every four yearsBB knows JG will be a stud in this league.

 

[Rex Racer]

Remember when the "pile of burnt rubble" beat the pats in their last meeting?

"Tied for best record in the league is a pile of burnt rubble"
- dumbasses

Tied with who?

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Does the NY gang get to make those decisions?

I never thought I'd like anyone from NY. I'm starting to change my mind.

If the Giants keep Eli I'll like even more New Yawkers

Why? Eli doesnt own much, but your team he does

 

[dbldwn711]

Rationalize it however you want.

Could have had a deal with Cleveland last offseason and reaped a couple of Ones... henceforth expediting the next era of Patriots football... got this instead.

Enjoy your upcoming mediocrity.

Hahaha

Link where pats were offered a couple of ones by Cleveland for Jimmy G.

While you're looking for it read this:

Report: Browns did not offer first for Jimmy Garoppolo

You're welcome.