#NoGingerInNewEngland

[Rock Strongo]

I've said it multiple times. If Dalton even buys a ticket to logan, I'm a Jets fan.

Andy Dalton landing spots: Jaguars, Patriots among possible fits

At age 32, Dalton should certainly be able to play for quite a few more years. But where? That's the next big question in an offseason that has already seen astounding quarterback upheaval. Here are five possible landing spots to keep an eye on:

1) Jacksonville Jaguars: If you like puzzles, this is the one where the most pieces seem to fit together for Dalton. His former offensive coordinator in Cincinnati, Jay Gruden, is now occupying that role in Jacksonville, and they enjoyed considerable success in their three years together (2011-13). The Bengals went to the playoffs in each of those three years, and in their final season together, the offense finished sixth in scoring and Dalton threw 33 touchdown passes against 20 interceptions. The Jaguars shipped Nick Foles out and have said all the right things in support of second-year pro Gardner Minshew, but at the very least, Dalton would provide a very strong backup option to Minshew and -- more likely -- very strong competition for the starting job. Side note: Dalton also has the right temperament to be the face of a franchise that is clearly in transition.

2) New England Patriots: Deep breaths, Patriots fans. The Red Rifle isn't Tom Brady, but nobody is. Dalton is reliable, with considerable starting experience (he was 70-61-2 as a starter for the Bengals) and, on paper anyway, is better than the current top two quarterbacks on the roster. Jarrett Stidham has no experience as a starter (although the Patriots have seen him in practice for a year), and Brian Hoyer is 16-22 as a starter for his career. And Dalton could come cheap. Jameis Winston just signed in New Orleans for $1.1 million plus incentives. There is a big caveat here, though: Stidham and Hoyer already know the Patriots' offense, and that could be a significant factor, considering nobody knows when teams will be able to get on the field again as the world continues to grapple with the COVID-19 pandemic.

3) Denver Broncos: Second-year pro Drew Lock is the starter, but in March, the Broncos signed another former Bengal, Jeff Driskel, to back him up. Driskel has made eight career starts, going 1-7. There isn't much question who would give the Broncos a better chance to win if Lock is out of the game. And Dalton would be an excellent mentor for a young quarterback.

4) New York Jets: Another on the "Dalton would be an excellent mentor for a young quarterback" list. Third-year pro Sam Darnold is, obviously, the starter, but the Jets need him to make a jump this season. If Dalton were willing to give up on being a full-time starter, he would be an outstanding help for Darnold, the same way Josh McCown was in 2018, Darnold's rookie season. And last season, the Jets saw the value of having a viable backup -- the wheels fell off for them early in 2019, when Darnold had mononucleosis, Trevor Siemian also got hurt and Luke Falk had to start. The Jets lost all three games Darnold was out. Darnold's current backup is David Fales, who was on the roster as Darnold's backup after the early-season debacle last year, appearing in two games but throwing no passes. The Jets also added to their QB room in last week's draft, selecting FIU's James Morgan in the fourth round.

5) A coast-to-coast bunch of teams that need backups: How about the Los Angeles Rams, Seattle Seahawks, Tennessee Titans or Atlanta Falcons? All of these scenarios, like with the Jets and Broncos, would be predicated on Dalton not being wed to the opportunity to compete for a starting job. And Dalton obviously doesn't play the same style of game as, say, Russell Wilson. But Dalton would be, by far, the most reliable and most experienced backup option for teams that have playoff-caliber rosters and would -- they hope -- need the backup only to hold the fort. Consider this ... Blake Bortles? Geno Smith? Logan Woodside? You wouldn't rather have Dalton?

 

[Rock Strongo]

Fast Friday 5: Andy Dalton a no-win option for Patriots

While many media analysts, fans and even unnamed league sources have spouted the idea that Dalton might make sense in Foxborough, that logic seems faulty at best.

Even though he’s only played for one team, Dalton is a journeyman in terms of his skills. He’s just good enough to start and put up stats when surrounded by elite talent like A.J. Green. He can even occasionally guide a team to the postseason. But he’s never won a playoff game. Turns the ball over under pressure and has never proven he can carry less-capable talent to the next level of production. He’s not only 0-4 in the postseason but has one touchdown compared to six interceptions in the playoffs. His postseason passer rating is a combined 57.8, slightly better than his completion percentage of 55.7.

As NESN Red Sox analyst and Hall of Fame pitcher Dennis Eckersley would say, “Yuck.”

There are no Greens, Tyler Eiferts or Joe Mixons on the Patriots roster. There is an aging Julian Edelman, overburdened James White and not much else.

Dalton is a middling passer at best. Put him on a Patriots team with a retooling roster mixed with fading talent and he might be good enough – might, he was after all benched last fall for fourth-round rookie Ryan Finley – to lead New England to a middling record with Belichick’s coaching. Maybe the No. 7 seed and a Wild Card Weekend loss in the first round of the newly-expanded playoffs.

 

[LetsGoPats]

The Jarret Stidham era has begun.

 

[sonnyblack65]

I've said it multiple times. If Dalton even buys a ticket to logan, I'm a Jets fan.

Andy Dalton landing spots: Jaguars, Patriots among possible fits

At age 32, Dalton should certainly be able to play for quite a few more years. But where? That's the next big question in an offseason that has already seen astounding quarterback upheaval. Here are five possible landing spots to keep an eye on:

1) Jacksonville Jaguars: If you like puzzles, this is the one where the most pieces seem to fit together for Dalton. His former offensive coordinator in Cincinnati, Jay Gruden, is now occupying that role in Jacksonville, and they enjoyed considerable success in their three years together (2011-13). The Bengals went to the playoffs in each of those three years, and in their final season together, the offense finished sixth in scoring and Dalton threw 33 touchdown passes against 20 interceptions. The Jaguars shipped Nick Foles out and have said all the right things in support of second-year pro Gardner Minshew, but at the very least, Dalton would provide a very strong backup option to Minshew and -- more likely -- very strong competition for the starting job. Side note: Dalton also has the right temperament to be the face of a franchise that is clearly in transition.

2) New England Patriots: Deep breaths, Patriots fans. The Red Rifle isn't Tom Brady, but nobody is. Dalton is reliable, with considerable starting experience (he was 70-61-2 as a starter for the Bengals) and, on paper anyway, is better than the current top two quarterbacks on the roster. Jarrett Stidham has no experience as a starter (although the Patriots have seen him in practice for a year), and Brian Hoyer is 16-22 as a starter for his career. And Dalton could come cheap. Jameis Winston just signed in New Orleans for $1.1 million plus incentives. There is a big caveat here, though: Stidham and Hoyer already know the Patriots' offense, and that could be a significant factor, considering nobody knows when teams will be able to get on the field again as the world continues to grapple with the COVID-19 pandemic.

3) Denver Broncos: Second-year pro Drew Lock is the starter, but in March, the Broncos signed another former Bengal, Jeff Driskel, to back him up. Driskel has made eight career starts, going 1-7. There isn't much question who would give the Broncos a better chance to win if Lock is out of the game. And Dalton would be an excellent mentor for a young quarterback.

4) New York Jets: Another on the "Dalton would be an excellent mentor for a young quarterback" list. Third-year pro Sam Darnold is, obviously, the starter, but the Jets need him to make a jump this season. If Dalton were willing to give up on being a full-time starter, he would be an outstanding help for Darnold, the same way Josh McCown was in 2018, Darnold's rookie season. And last season, the Jets saw the value of having a viable backup -- the wheels fell off for them early in 2019, when Darnold had mononucleosis, Trevor Siemian also got hurt and Luke Falk had to start. The Jets lost all three games Darnold was out. Darnold's current backup is David Fales, who was on the roster as Darnold's backup after the early-season debacle last year, appearing in two games but throwing no passes. The Jets also added to their QB room in last week's draft, selecting FIU's James Morgan in the fourth round.

5) A coast-to-coast bunch of teams that need backups: How about the Los Angeles Rams, Seattle Seahawks, Tennessee Titans or Atlanta Falcons? All of these scenarios, like with the Jets and Broncos, would be predicated on Dalton not being wed to the opportunity to compete for a starting job. And Dalton obviously doesn't play the same style of game as, say, Russell Wilson. But Dalton would be, by far, the most reliable and most experienced backup option for teams that have playoff-caliber rosters and would -- they hope -- need the backup only to hold the fort. Consider this ... Blake Bortles? Geno Smith? Logan Woodside? You wouldn't rather have Dalton?

They usually fly into Providence, so you're safe

 

[SeattleCoug]

Jags seem like the best fit at this point but there really arent a ton of options.

Ill defer to Pats fans but it doesnt seem to make sense for them, depending on what happens Brissett in Indy that seems like a more likely move for them.

 

[mcnabb7542]

I've said it multiple times. If Dalton even buys a ticket to logan, I'm a Jets fan.

Um yeah can we get a mod in here and pin this thread at the top please!
Cause shit just got real after this quote :

 

[cerealboi]

Brian Hoyer is a better quarterback than Andy Dalton. Change my mind.

 

[Ickey Shuffle]

Brian Hoyer is a better quarterback than Andy Dalton. Change my mind.

One made the playoffs multiple years in a row competing against the Steelers and Ravens, the other couldn't survive in the same division as the Steelers, Ravens, nor the Bengals. Pretty cut and dry lol.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Brian Hoyer is a better quarterback than Andy Dalton. Change my mind.

One of them is on a list that has just 6 QB's since 2011 have thrown for at least 30,000 yards, 200 TD's, and win 70 games.

Hoyer is not on that list.

 

[sonnyblack65]

One made the playoffs multiple years in a row competing against the Steelers and Ravens, the other couldn't survive in the same division as the Steelers, Ravens, nor the Bengals. Pretty cut and dry lol.

Hoyer was 10-6 in that mighty conference playing for Cleveland

One of them is on a list that has just 6 QB's since 2011 have thrown for at least 30,000 yards, 200 TD's, and win 70 games.

Hoyer is not on that list.

Hoyer only started 38 games, so tough to be on that list. Not saying Brian is a better QB, but at least make your argument legitimate,is all

 

[megalodon30]

I wonder if Pats fans realize Joe Flacco is available. Why would Belichick go with Dalton when there's an elite QB out there, just waiting to be signed?

 

[huskers1217]

I've said it multiple times. If Dalton even buys a ticket to logan, I'm a Jets fan.

Andy Dalton landing spots: Jaguars, Patriots among possible fits

At age 32, Dalton should certainly be able to play for quite a few more years. But where? That's the next big question in an offseason that has already seen astounding quarterback upheaval. Here are five possible landing spots to keep an eye on:

1) Jacksonville Jaguars: If you like puzzles, this is the one where the most pieces seem to fit together for Dalton. His former offensive coordinator in Cincinnati, Jay Gruden, is now occupying that role in Jacksonville, and they enjoyed considerable success in their three years together (2011-13). The Bengals went to the playoffs in each of those three years, and in their final season together, the offense finished sixth in scoring and Dalton threw 33 touchdown passes against 20 interceptions. The Jaguars shipped Nick Foles out and have said all the right things in support of second-year pro Gardner Minshew, but at the very least, Dalton would provide a very strong backup option to Minshew and -- more likely -- very strong competition for the starting job. Side note: Dalton also has the right temperament to be the face of a franchise that is clearly in transition.

2) New England Patriots: Deep breaths, Patriots fans. The Red Rifle isn't Tom Brady, but nobody is. Dalton is reliable, with considerable starting experience (he was 70-61-2 as a starter for the Bengals) and, on paper anyway, is better than the current top two quarterbacks on the roster. Jarrett Stidham has no experience as a starter (although the Patriots have seen him in practice for a year), and Brian Hoyer is 16-22 as a starter for his career. And Dalton could come cheap. Jameis Winston just signed in New Orleans for $1.1 million plus incentives. There is a big caveat here, though: Stidham and Hoyer already know the Patriots' offense, and that could be a significant factor, considering nobody knows when teams will be able to get on the field again as the world continues to grapple with the COVID-19 pandemic.

3) Denver Broncos: Second-year pro Drew Lock is the starter, but in March, the Broncos signed another former Bengal, Jeff Driskel, to back him up. Driskel has made eight career starts, going 1-7. There isn't much question who would give the Broncos a better chance to win if Lock is out of the game. And Dalton would be an excellent mentor for a young quarterback.

4) New York Jets: Another on the "Dalton would be an excellent mentor for a young quarterback" list. Third-year pro Sam Darnold is, obviously, the starter, but the Jets need him to make a jump this season. If Dalton were willing to give up on being a full-time starter, he would be an outstanding help for Darnold, the same way Josh McCown was in 2018, Darnold's rookie season. And last season, the Jets saw the value of having a viable backup -- the wheels fell off for them early in 2019, when Darnold had mononucleosis, Trevor Siemian also got hurt and Luke Falk had to start. The Jets lost all three games Darnold was out. Darnold's current backup is David Fales, who was on the roster as Darnold's backup after the early-season debacle last year, appearing in two games but throwing no passes. The Jets also added to their QB room in last week's draft, selecting FIU's James Morgan in the fourth round.

5) A coast-to-coast bunch of teams that need backups: How about the Los Angeles Rams, Seattle Seahawks, Tennessee Titans or Atlanta Falcons? All of these scenarios, like with the Jets and Broncos, would be predicated on Dalton not being wed to the opportunity to compete for a starting job. And Dalton obviously doesn't play the same style of game as, say, Russell Wilson. But Dalton would be, by far, the most reliable and most experienced backup option for teams that have playoff-caliber rosters and would -- they hope -- need the backup only to hold the fort. Consider this ... Blake Bortles? Geno Smith? Logan Woodside? You wouldn't rather have Dalton?

there was a guy on Golics show this morning saying the best landing spot for the Ginger is Pittsburgh.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Hoyer was 10-6 in that mighty conference playing for Cleveland

One of them is on a list that has just 6 QB's since 2011 have thrown for at least 30,000 yards, 200 TD's, and win 70 games.

Hoyer is not on that list.

Hoyer only started 38 games, so tough to be on that list. Not saying Brian is a better QB, but at least make your argument legitimate,is all

Well - if he here a better QB he'd have a job. Come on now, let's not try and use the stats and then say QB doesn't qualify. There is a reason he doesn't qualify. He's not good.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Well - if he here a better QB he'd have a job. Come on now, let's not try and use the stats and then say QB doesn't qualify. There is a reason he doesn't qualify. He's not good.

Again I didn't say he was, he is a decent backup and a good mentor for young QB's . But take AJ Green off Cinci, and I don't Dillon is a starter either

 

[Hank Kingsley]

The Jarret Stidham era has begun.

Yup.

 

[Hank Kingsley]

Hoyer was 10-6 in that mighty conference playing for Cleveland

One of them is on a list that has just 6 QB's since 2011 have thrown for at least 30,000 yards, 200 TD's, and win 70 games.

Hoyer is not on that list.

Hoyer only started 38 games, so tough to be on that list. Not saying Brian is a better QB, but at least make your argument legitimate,is all

He is convenient in that he's cheap, available and knows the system.

Not much else going for him from where I sit.

 

[Southieinnc]

I wonder if Pats fans realize Joe Flacco is available. Why would Belichick go with Dalton when there's an elite QB out there, just waiting to be signed?

@Oldschool739 is that you?

 

[sonnyblack65]

He is convenient in that he's cheap, available and knows the system.

Not much else going for him from where I sit.

Exactly

 

[Cincyfan78]

Again I didn't say he was, he is a decent backup and a good mentor for young QB's . But take AJ Green off Cinci, and I don't Dillon is a starter either

Fair enough, but AJ has played in 10, 16, 9, and 0 games in the last 4 years. Dalton has been OK - I think anyone in Cincinnati would tell you the biggest issue since 2015 has been the play of the OL, not the WR's.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Fair enough, but AJ has played in 10, 16, 9, and 0 games in the last 4 years. Dalton has been OK - I think anyone in Cincinnati would tell you the biggest issue since 2015 has been the play of the OL, not the WR's.

It's your team so you know better than me, but seeing you brought up last 4 years, Cinci with Dalton was 20-35-1. Honestly don't want Hoyer as a starter or Dalton. Stidham will be the guy in NE for now