Series Thread: Next Homestand vs Padres & Orioles

[WizardHawk]

 

[wazzu31]

It is against the labor rules, but Mariners are not the first team to use the IL to stash a player.

Oh I know, just feels gross that my favorite team could be blatantly breaking a rule. That could come back to bite them in the backside especially when it comes to Vegas relocation when the owners should unanimously vote no.

 

[wazzu31]

But damn Hancock look much better than a number 5. If the Mariners can get into the playoffs it will still be a loss to the Astros or Orioles. But going into next season the Mariners will officially have the best starting staff in history and top studs knocking the door.

And after the past few days the Mariners have to sign Bellinger or Tucker. From those in the know about the plethora of middle infields, all of them can play 2B and 3rd. So pray on the right deal to get a 3B. Hell Ford could be a starting 3B next year I love Gilbert but Gilbert for Reilly is a solid deal for both teams and use Ray to try Carlson or Noosbar from the Cards. Great collection of high paid, middle paid and underpaid under 30 athletes. Extend and buy out as many offensive contracts as possible

 

[wazzu31]

Hancock looks like he belongs, so hopefully it shuts up his haters. Not an ace at the moment but neither did Gilbert nor Kirby and they came a balls hair away from dethroning the Astros last year.

 

[Tapey]

10 games over .500 2 back of Toronto, 3.5 back of the Astros, 5.5 back of the Rangers

 

[ulmax]

Really think it is fake? Wouldn’t there be some serious fine or something if they manipulate the roster? I truly do hope Woo is ok and he can come back and they can the weird 6 man mashup rotation or however they are going save innings for Miller, Woo and now with Hancock.

And Colby finally gets to actually watch the pitcher he has written off as a bust, which I still don’t understand. Glass half full is Hancock has been utterly dominant in most of his games so the games that he has been rocked hopefully it is like with Miller getting clobbered cause he was working on things.

This is what .happens..when.im working things..playing..chess..
my rate goes..down..and even so so.players.
can run me around..
 but when..im on it..be ready.for an early.
check mate..or an anilation
Hancock..will..
be fine..
he knows...
mariners..know...or they would have brought..
oller..or milone..

 

[ulmax]

White..king.is castled.in the normal fashion.
Ohh ive lost my queen..
I'm black..

So with a knight holding where my bishop position.will.be...center pawn..of 3.in front.
If white king...
I attack..the pawn...king can not take..
Bishop..and bishop.controls..either.side.
Of king..yes..white.bishop..
My other horse takes 2 moves..to..position.
The white king into...check..mate..
With 2 horses..and a bishop..

Slam..Sam..with white queen still on the board..

 

[ulmax]

Like 8n chess..pitchers are worth more..
Than hitters...
Young pitchers..being worth most..
Ya don't throw them away...
Anytime..for hitting...
Mariners could do that.in offseason.
Gilbert..is a big..6-6..with stuff..
He prob has not even...hit his ceiling..
Yet..
Kirby..either..but prob will..in the next..
Couple years..
For both guys .Kik back..and enjoy.the show.
Wth..
Woo..
And Miller..filling in...

And snell..hopefully..best..era .in baseball.

 

[ulmax]

Rotation..when ray gets back..

1.Castillo..
2.snell..L/L
3.kerby.
4ray..L/L ray is strike outs..and innings eater.
5gilbert...

6woo..
7miller..
8hancock.
9dollord....out last I heard

9 van scoter..
10.mercedes.
11..Jimmy Joyce.
So good .so far

 

[ulmax]

There is no reason to trade them .at this point.
An the direction..mariners have takin.

And reality is .it will not take..to many..trades.
And likely no.
Big splash trades..
Need..
A left 1b.to give France..a break..
And I think his numbers.will go up..
Canzone could be that..guy..we will see.

Also..that is player develop ..hang on .to.
The season..as mariners bust..
A move..
In the groove..

Fishing in the trough..

 

[ulmax]

Kelenic..homework..
Theory..of pitching .
Types..of hitters..

As the baseball turns..
Da na da na da na..Batman(original version)

Buff wapp..biff...people flying.m

 

[ulmax]

But damn Hancock look much better than a number 5. If the Mariners can get into the playoffs it will still be a loss to the Astros or Orioles. But going into next season the Mariners will officially have the best starting staff in history and top studs knocking the door.

And after the past few days the Mariners have to sign Bellinger or Tucker. From those in the know about the plethora of middle infields, all of them can play 2B and 3rd. So pray on the right deal to get a 3B. Hell Ford could be a starting 3B next year I love Gilbert but Gilbert for Reilly is a solid deal for both teams and use Ray to try Carlson or Noosbar from the Cards. Great collection of high paid, middle paid and underpaid under 30 athletes. Extend and buy out as many offensive contracts as possible

Rotation..when ray gets back..

1.Castillo..
2.snell..L/L
3.kerby.
4ray..L/L ray is strike outs..and innings eater.
5gilbert...

6woo..
7miller..
8hancock.
9dollord....out last I heard

9 van scoter..
10.mercedes.
11..Jimmy Joyce.
So good .so far

This feels like mariners..
Hancock..is compared..to..Kyle Gibson..of Baltimore..
For style .

 

[ulmax]

Mariners may..buy.
A bellinger .
A gurriel..
But..
Snell..is a deal..to not pass..up..

A left handed..1b..better than Ford.
Acually..Brandon belt..is verifiably awsome
In that exact role..
And is a free agent.

A number 2. Hitter..cuz that is not Julio..
Is a #5.hitter..

The only way .to get a 3rd base is move on.from Suarez..
I don't think mariners would like to do..
That .at this time ..
Hence..the platoon..if Rojas does not work.
They will try again....
Only a matter of time .

 

[ulmax]

If mariners.do move on.from Suarez..
Then..a Johnathan inda trade..is most likely
With cinncinati.
That is off-season..but I don't see it..

 

[ulmax]

I think caballero works good with .Crawford.
He is 2b....

All reasons why .I trade..for .AAA..
2b/Ss/3b .vavis left hitter..dodgers..
As insurance..

 

[ulmax]

That is example..and they prob.will.get someone..
Maybe not vavis..but he would be a good one.
Just up from AA.
That is the direction..mariners .are going.

North by.northwest..1/4 west..
Me mateee.

 

[ulmax]

Lourdes gurriel..is #2#3or#4 hitter in a lineup
He hits for ave most of the time..
So right handed .hitter..for #2.spot..check.
LF or RF..ok..
So his splits..say..
Market value..17.mil.

Would give the mariners opertunitys..
To put Julio .at#5.spot

 

[ulmax]

A lineup..with gurriel..

1.crawford..ss.L/L
2gurriel..jr...rf./LF.
3canzone...dh..L/L
4.suarez..3b..
5julio......cf.
6kelenic..LF/rf..L/L
7raliegh..catch..
8.france......1b
8cabellero...2b

 

[MarinersBestFan]

The kid has some good movement on his pitches. Like what I see so far...

He stays at the bottom of the zone alot to induce ground balls

He threw around 5-6 Two-seamers last night that had insane movement run on them that easily was 12-16" of movement jamming up RH batters. But they needed to be a little higher up in the zone on a few of them. Most were knee to thigh high and rarely do those induce a swing.

His biggest flaw is his slow delivery ( high leg kick ) to the plate when in his stretch. Hopefully he can adapt to the slide step easily so it keeps base runners more at bay.

Solid 9/10 debut outing.

I would have liked to see him bust a few more up and in with his fastball. A pitcher has to go there a few times a game on 0-2 or 1-2 counts just to plant the seed in the hitters mind not to get to amped up leaning in to cover the outside of the plate. Plus nearly all teams usually have a RH hitter like Julio that finds it hard to lay off of an up and in fastball ( because their eyes 'see it' so well ) it is a very enticing pitch to see as a hitter and then a split second later you realized you are doomed.

On to edit add to my prophecy post to keep the MOJO rising !!

 

[Anointed One]

He stays at the bottom of the zone alot to induce ground balls

He threw around 5-6 Two-seamers last night that had insane movement run on them that easily was 12-16" of movement jamming up RH batters. But they needed to be a little higher up in the zone on a few of them. Most were knee to thigh high and rarely do those induce a swing.

His biggest flaw is his slow delivery ( high leg kick ) to the plate when in his stretch. Hopefully he can adapt to the slide step easily so it keeps base runners more at bay.

Solid 9/10 debut outing.

I would have liked to see him bust a few more up and in with his fastball. A pitcher has to go there a few times a game on 0-2 or 1-2 counts just to plant the seed in the hitters mind not to get to amped up leaning in to cover the outside of the plate. Plus nearly all teams usually have a RH hitter like Julio that finds it hard to lay off of an up and in fastball ( because their eyes 'see it' so well ) it is a very enticing pitch to see as a hitter and then a split second later you realized you are doomed.

On to edit add to my prophecy post to keep the MOJO rising !!

That change up he has is nasty... Once he learns how to hide it a bit better, it will be his knockout pitch...